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Anyone out there know anything about this drug?  My 8 year old son was on Strattera until yesterday.  He had been on it for about 4-5 months.  It was helping his behavior and his grades improved SO much,  I really hated that we had to change, but it was causing rapid heartbeat and it was too rapid!!  He didn't say anything, didn't know it wasn't supposed to do that.  So, when we discovered it, I took him back to the doctor and we changed to VYVANSE.  He told me it was a "cleaned up version of adderall.  they took all the bad, nasty side effects out of adderall and this is what was left."  I was just wanting to see if anyone had any experience with it.  Thanks for the help.
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189897 tn?1441126518
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    Weird, wonder if the size of the pill is bothering him?
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Yes! my son just woke up this morning and said his throat hurt. He just took the medication for the first time yesteday
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If a sore throat is causing your son distress with Vyvanse, then i don't think he has even close to the degree of tolerance that he needs in order to be taking this medication. Vyvanse will make your child's life a living hell and you'll never know about it. I am 19 years old and I have been taking Vyvanse since 3rd grade and what a mistake my parents made. When starting a young CHILD on a medication like vyvanse, you may unintentionally revolve their life around it. Being that I "grew up" taking vyvanse, I never really knew much of what life was like without the medication. The only time i wasn't on the medication was during that weekends and during those two days i was usually suffering from extremem fatigue and brain fog due to lack of stimulation. So, from my perspective, any side effect of the medication would appear to be due to "lack of health" and I would always think something was "wrong with me"(even though nothing was wrong and i was simply experiencing another side affect of the vyvanse).

Another reason to keep it away from your child,

A N G E R . .

Holy crap have i gotten angry while taking this medication. During the majority of middle-school throughout highschool, I was always neutral and calm mannered during school. The medication kept me that way while I was under the "comfort" of taking it. But as soon as 2-3 O'Clock came rolling by, so did my relentless, selfish, irrational, depressed, negative, and ferocious attitude. This attitude literally wasn't "me" and it was brought about due to my daily vyvanse "crash". When I crashed, I didn't even want to look anyone in fear that they would do something to set me off. The feeling is like no other and it's honestly unbearable at times. To describe it is challenging but i will give it a shot. Imagine if out of NO WHERE you instantaneously feel slow and tired and just can't seem to focus on any one thing for more than 10 seconds without your head feeling like something is going to burst out of it from all of the pounding caused by the headache you now have. Then imagine that combined with this seemingly uncurable thought aneurism, you become overly sensitive to all stimulus. So now you're overly sensitive to all things "including pain" and you also have a terrible headache. Next is the anger, and man does it get bad. With all of this negative crap going on, your brain gets set into this "everything is against" me mode and you start victimizing yourself in EVERY SITUATION. Anything that people say around you that you don't necessarily agree with now seems like an offensive statement towards you and you become irrationally defensive. Then, to pick at your angry side even more, your brain begins to perceive /ANYTHING/ (and i MEAN anything) that isn't perfectly in sync with the way you would like that particular thing to be at that specific time as an ANNOYING, INCONVENIENT, PIECE OF USELESS CRAP that doesn't deserve to breathe the same air as you. Believe me, i'm not over exaggerating when I say this, vyvanse will ruin your child if you start too early.

There are a lot of grammatical revisions that need to be made in my previous comment. I am sorry for that, but please excuse and replace any grammatical fallacies with a proper and educated assumption. Again, sorry for the inconvenience.
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My son went on strattera @ 4 @ switched to Vyvanse @ 6 & it was amazing for a while he was neat & tidy his hand writing was amazing & it helped curb his appetite BUT he got terribly depressed & emotional & swore that everyone hated him  it was so hard 2 see him like that so now he's on concerta which His Dr insists on staying with even though I don't think it's enough for him but it slows him down enough to get thru life
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when I was in the fourth grade I took vyvanse was on it for a year or two and I started losing tons of weight (because it made me anarexite I had barely an appetite)I was the tallest kid in my grade and I weighed almost 89 lbs then I started to complain to my parents about vision problems (it would get black and fuzzy and I would lose my balance) so we got bloodwork and a MRI I had low protein that explained the dark circles under my eyes well the MRI show spots on my brain I was really scared but im fine know im on concerta know which is really working for me hope this helped
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Yes, my son is on that exact dose. He complains his throat hurts and he is getting nonstop migraines.  He also gets very emotional when the meds are almost out of his system in the evenings.  Sometimes, not anything consistant, he has this emotional thing as the meds are kicking in too.  
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    That medication should not be distracting for you.  Almost sounds like you are getting more then you need.   At any rate, you do need to talk to your doctor about this and see about a change in dose or a change in meds.
    And, yes, I would think that the dehydration is causing the headaches.  Try drinking a sports drink (poweraide, etc) and see if that makes a difference.    
    I also am wondering if you are getting enough nutrients.  A good high protein breakfast really makes a difference when taking Vyvanse.
   Let me know if any of this helps.  Best wishes!
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I've been on vyvanse only for a couple of years. I oh ave adult add not adhd and it is a great drug but now it's starting to turn on me. I have a horrible headache after a few hours and its hard to get up and do anything and change your mode. Also, you have to force yourself to drink water or you will become dehydrated because your so distracted by the drug you have to force yourself to drink fluids. Also you become dehydrated and wonder if its the dehydration causing the headaches or the Vyvanse itself.
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  note, I have also read that having a high protein breakfast also helps to make V more effective.  Would be curious if you have experienced this?  Good comments by the way, thank you
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Vyvase actually smoothed out my sons emotional rollercoaster . He was put on when he was in second grade around 7 yrs old. They started him on 40 and bumped him up to 50 he is small about 60 lbs now at 10 yrs old.  I was told that getting very angry is a side effect of too much or too little medicine, so may try to tweek the amount. My sons doctor when we were trying to figure out the right amount said that after a week or so if I felt it wasn't working well to break open another cap and give him half of that as well and see how that worked. There is a very small theraputic window with psych meds where you have to have the amount just right , not too little to have no effect and not too much to have side effects. I would keep a journal of his behavior and take it in when you see your doctor next. I personally would not mix meds, I don't like the idea of taking meds to counteract one another but thats just my personal opinion.
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It may not be the right medication for him. Its very difficult to know exactly whats going on in the brain and what needs to be fixed. When my husband went to get diagnosed they put him on a bi polar med first and it made all his problems alot worse. Then they gave him Adderall and he immediately got better so its really trial and error the doctor said.
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When do you give it to him? I would suggest giving it as early as possible, I don't give my son his after 9 pm cause it last so long but I have found he did have trouble getting to sleep the first few weeks but after his body got use to it, he stopped having problems falling asleep.
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My son was diagnosed when he was 5 and they started him on Adderall. It did good for the first year or so but in second grade he started gettin really emotional and having breakdowns in school. His doctor put him on Vyvanse and since then he has been very steady, he no longer has the ups and downs like on the Adderall. I think that is why some people don't think Vyvase works as well as Adderall because its much smoother and it really lasts all day and I don't notice it wearing off but he sleeps fine. I don't allow him to take it after 9 am though because I know he would not go to sleep at a reasonable time.
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Make sure he has lots to drink, Vyvanse seems to cause dry mouth with me and my son but as long as I have something to drink its ok. Maybe its just getting too dry.
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my 11 year old son was on Concerta for 3 years and we made the switch to  Vyvance in October.  He was taking 60 mg in the monring and it worked great for 2 1/2 months.  We made an emergency phone call to his doctor and made the decision to go back to Concerta after being suspended from school due to his aggressive outbursts.  After just 2 days off the medicine his aggression was quickly reduced and although the inattention and focus concerns are back, I will gladly take this over the aggression concerns.
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something to try.... citrus (O.J.) counter acts Vyvanse, our Dr. told us not to drink juices or Vitamin water in the morning because it would counter act the Vyvanse. My son used to drink O.J. late in the afternoon or for dinner if he wanted to fall asleep faster, after being on it Vyvanse for about  6 months he doesn't have to worry about it anymore and no longer has  insomnia and falls asleep pretty easily
Hope this helps
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My 11  year old has been on Vyvanse for a couple of years and we have loved it, he has grown a lot and began to feel his 30 mg dosage was not working, we increased to 40 mg and he began complaining of mild stomach aches that last an hour or so in the morning. Other than the tummy aches it was great, just make sure he drinks lots of water, and makes himself eat something during the day. I also take Vyvanse and have noticed that I pretty much forget to eat and have no appetite, If I don't make myself eat I have a huge crash feeling and get kind of down, low blood sugar kinda feeling,and get headaches but If I eat and drink water I feel great. Also, the insomnia side effect only lasted a couple of months with him and I. We both sleep great now.
I have also done research that citrus makes the med. ineffective so you can't drink O.J. and take it or it will not work. On the other hand if you want it to wear off faster so you can sleep, drink a glass of juice around dinner time.
Hope this helps!
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It's funny you just posted, I just replied to you on the other thread lol
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i just posted a question about vyvanse and then found this thread.  i have taken vyvanse successfully for a number of years but have started having problems that i suspect are caused by the vyvanse-----has anyone else had this problem?  please check my other thread if you have any info for me---i think it is time to get off of this medication.
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My husband is on it.  He gets very little sleep.  He likes the focus effect during the day so he doesnt want to change.  Children need their sleep to grow and regulate.  I would bring it up to his doctor. From one grandma to another.
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I dont have any suggestions but I will share this. My husband is on Vyvanse and he doesnt hardly sleep. However, he says he is so pleased with the performance and focus effects he doesnt want to switch meds.  Because you are dealing with a child, I would bring it up to his doctor.  Kids need sleep to grow.   Good luck...
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hello i have a 5 1/2 yr old that was on 30mg and the 1st 3 days he was having problems going to sleep and he would talk a lot but after a wk he got better but i still had problems with him going to bed so i felt he was over stimulated so I lowered the doseage to 20mg and what a difference. everythig is perfect. he has an appetite he sleeps when he needs to and he is not overly talkative. he is still focused in school and i think if you lowered the doseage that things would change. talk to your doctor and let him/her know your sons side efftects and maybe that will help.
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i have been taking aderall time release for 3 to 4 yrs. and had severe side effects so i switched to vyvanse. IT NOT WORK RIGHT AWAY but it takes about 3 to 4 months to fully work but once it does it was 100% better for me then adderall. BUT i noticed i stutter A LOT but don;t know y? its so hard for me to talk without messing up what i am saying or i just mumble out sound. its hard for me to listen and understand what people say to me because i hear a totaly different thing from what they said. or if i am writing a paper i will have all these great ideas but when i start it i find myself having to think what im going to right for EACH sentence and feel lost? i need some advice help?
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might take you a full day.  you won't sleep tonite, that's for sure.
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how long does it usually take for an overdose on vyvanse to where off?
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