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1405767 tn?1282634598

Has anyone been delivered from pain meds or pain from Jesus?

I am wanting my pain and pain meds to be gone i have tryed everything in the book to get better so i decided to try Jesus and i went to the Revival in Mobile Al this weekend its called Bay of the holy Spirit .org its on line THUR,FRI,7PM and Sat 5pm anyway it was awsome people are coming from all over the world a woman got out of wheelchair and walked had not walked in 23 years her name is Delia Knox u can type her name in any search she will be everywhere u can see her walk.I was there and saw it there no way she could of done that i know because i am in a wheelchair .I saw her many times through the years on tv before this and she was in a wheelchair . I felt Jesus all over me and i am going back i had not sit in my wheelchair for at least 5 years like i did there because the pain was way to bad i had been almost bedridden only could sit no more than 2 hours a lot days not even a hour and i sit 5 to 9 hours each day of revival with very low pain it had to be Jesus as long as i was in his presence i was ok . What do yall think about healing from pain and no more pills? I was high on Jesus i could not hardley talk at the revival . Check it out on line .
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Yes!   My name is Todd and I'm from N.J.  I don't know where to start but here goes.  Earlier this year I was forced to make a decision between my health insurance premium or my mortgage payment.  I had been on oxycontin and oxycodone for about 10 years, so you can see my dilemna.  On my 2d night of self detox I had what I later learned was called a "spiritual awaking".  Tommorrow will mark my 28th week clean and not just from the oxys, but from my adderal, paxil,doxipan,lipitor,zetia,plavix, and I also quit biting my nails(which was a lifelong habit).  I never told anyone about this (spiritual awaking) until the last week of July when my family got together for vacation in Ocean City.  My older brother is a drug and alcohol counselor in Pittsburgh and runs a methadone clinc there.  I had kept in touch with him during my detox and could tell that he was skeptical at times and cautiously optimistic at times.  
    Long story short I finally told him, in detail, about what I had experienced and he said that it was the same thing that Bill W. had experienced.  I didn't know who Bill W. was and he said that he was a founder of AA and the 12 step programs.  As he told me about Bill W.and his story I got chills.  It was almost identical to mine.  This is still very hard for me to talk about (and write about) but it's true.  I knew on my 2d day of detox that I had it beat. I've never had any cravings since.
    In a worldly sense, I know that what I accomplished is hard to believe.  And I've read alot on the subject of self detox to know that it is undocumented.  Please someone tell me that this has happened to someone else also.  I've always believed in God but was never very religious or spiritual and I certainly did not ask for this to happen, but it did.  And it was real.
    I know that I need to talk about this at some point because it does eat at me.  I knew in that one instant that God was real, that Jesus was my new best friend and that it wasn't about me anymore.  Please someone tell me that I'm not nuts.

    
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Thanks for the info.  I googled Bill W. and read alot about him.  You are absolutely correct in your facts.  I read that he loathed(?) being preached to.  Amazing how things turn out.  Did Bill W. originate the 12 steps or did others?  Just curious.
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Bill W's story is a little different in that he went to treatment many times and still couldn't free him of alcohol. He got with Dr. Bob and they devised what AA is based on three principles: trust God, clean house, and help others. He was not just miraculously freed from the disease, it took workin the steps (in a very condensed form back then) to free him. If you are looking for a way to help, get into AA, work the steps, then sponsor others.

Also on a side note, Bill was not a Christian. He believed in A God but not in he christian diety. Although, as a Christian myself, I find that Christianity fits very well into AA and vice versa.
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   I'm truly sorry to hear about your nephew, that's tragic.  And I apologize if what I said offended you or anyone else here.  There's no need to argue any point here because I wholeheartedly agree with you.  I would never tell or suggest to anyone in any way that all you have to do is walk into a church, ask to be healed, and expect to be healed.  I know that it doesn't work that way.  All I did was answer a question and tell of my experience.  I also agree very strongly with you about being careful with what is said to someone who has need.  Things can very easily be interpreted the wrong way.
   I've never been religious or spiritual, although I've always believed in God, and up to 6 1/2 months ago haven't been to a church in 18 years (my father's funeral), so believe me when I say that I never even thought to ask God for any help.  It just happened.  I can't explain it.  But I am grateful.
   I do regret though that I don't have much to offer in regards to advice to someone who is struggling with addiction.  I don't know why it happened to me and not someone smart enough to use it for the greater good.  Maybe one day it will be revealed to me, maybe not. But until then I can't deny it.
   I truly am sorry to hear about your nephew.
  

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i believe therefore i have faith in him :)
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1253584 tn?1332877954
i know for a fact i was delivered from my addiction. i feared my withdrawls so bad that it proclonged me getting my life back. i remeber prayin to God for strength to make want to stop using and for me to b delivered from the withdrawls. i woke up one day while i was on vacation and decided not to use that day. i had enough. for me i didnt think id ever have enough. my withdrawls were doable and had the most amzing mind set to get me thru them. all i experienced were the weakness and chills. i even remeber sleeping like 9 to 10 hours.....then i relapsed and didnt think i could stop the partying and using of the pills. once again i remember praying for Gods strenght to get me out of the party scene and using. again i woke up 1 day and had the most amazing mind set ever. i all of sudden lost interest in the using and going out to the bars. i didnt think id get there but i did. i relied on my faith and hope and has gotton me thru.....
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HI  ....im a man of faith....I do believe Jesus still dose miricals or rather the power of the holy spirit in us dose them...as for addiction I have been set free once myself at the age of 26 it lasted till my early 30s when I got messed up with pain pills chasing pain from my back
I do know this God gives his grace and love he gives out freely to those that ask....I also know that sometimes he says no...or not now...his sovereignty cannot be questioned he's God
I also know that instead of praying for him to take something away or to give me something
that praying for strength to go threw what I face often works better...it allows God to be God and show you his power.. as for help with addiction I broke a 16 1/2yr addiction to pain meds with the last 6 1/2yrs on methadone...for me trying to get off methadone would have simply been impossible without the help of God when your addicted to methadone getting off of it takes months....8 1/2mo for me and wile tapering you hit road blocks that no mater how hard you try with everything you got in you your not going to get past them....this is where God comes in...to deliver you from something your powerless over....this happened several times threw out my taper...I even remember looking at my wife and telling her I guess im going to be a junkie the rest of my life it seamed so hopeless but each time she and I would pray about this God would show up and get me past my impasse ...I prayed my heart out looking to here something anything at all from God...I remember it well I was stuck at 20ml of methadone and 6 weeks had passed and I was still unable to taper any farther the withdrawals where overwhelming me ..finely in the soft spoken voice of God he said to me...''my grace will be sufficient for you"...I begged him for more something stronger to hold on to and again he said..''my grace will be sufficient for you''...it wasn't till that sunk in that I finely got past the 20ml mark those words cared me threw the rest of my taper...God was by my side the whole time he was just waiting for me to cry out to him and to trust him that he would get me threw this and he did....I feared my final withdrawal ....I trembled in fear I had had all the withdrawals I could stand...it was oct 18 a sunday...that day I broke down in church and explained to God how afraid I was and couldn't take anymore I had been threw body convulsions anxiety threw the roof..sweating spells chills cramps the works..I had lost all the fight I had in me...once again in the soft spoken word of God he said my grase will be sufficient for you...and it was although my final withdrawal wasn't a walk in the park God delivered me of what I had coming yes it was uncomfortable but it was not nearly as bad as what I expected ...God showed up each time and delivered me my plight ...I truly know an ausum God.....he who the son sets free is free indeed.......Gnarly            
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I will still tell them to rely on their faith if that is what is getting them thru this right now.......
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You said exactly what I was trying to say earlier........  God bless you, and as you I hope no addict will read this post and think all they have to do is walk in a church, say a prayer,  and their addiction to meth, or oxy, or you name it, will disappear...   sorry so many others find talking reality is so difficult.

I prayed more than I ever had in my life.....  and I know my daughter did as well, when she felt so hopeless...  there is no magic answer to beating addiction, it takes A LOT of hard work, desire and effort for  pretty much the entire family.   For me, I don't believe God chooses to heal a few from addiction, and  allow others to struggle or  die...  If going to church worked for beating your addiction,(original posters and others)  how very lucky for you, let's be honest tho, you are in the minority,  Certainly nothing to debate, celebrate your path which was easier than most experience.

Also, Janet, I am so sorry about your nephew...... I have seen too many very young lives destroyed by drugs...  not a life they wanted, but got in so far above their heads..gosh remember at that age we all felt invincible.       I thank god every day for my child,  3 years ago I truly thought she would be dead from her addiction.   With more heart ache, hard work for all us, obviously most of it for her, she is a year plus sober.  Yes there is a god, and we all need to believe in a "higher being", however as you said Janet, it takes beyond dedication and commitment and resolve  as you will live with this disease all of your life,  there simply is no easy or cookie cutter answer...  
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I could argue my point and you could argue your point all night what I think, but I am not going to that. I am so glad for what ever reason you are clean.  I had a 17 yr old nephew that took his life. He had asked a pastor a question before he killed himself about going to hell. I really worry about what is said around children and how they might interrupt what they hear. They are easily convinced.

I really believe that God is real, that he is present and watches over us. I also believe angels do too. I know my mom is an angel watching over her 51 yr old baby girl.


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495284 tn?1333894042
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God works in mysterious ways~~~Keep relying on your faith as it seems to be working.

Congrats on the clean time!!         sara
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   I'm sorry you feel that way.  All I can tell you is that what happened to me was real.  I didn't ask for it, it just happened.  I was never religious or spiritual and if someone told me that all I needed was to go to church and pray for healing I would have laughed at them too.  I agree that taken the wrong way could cause lasting damage. Please understand though, I only talk about my experience when asked.  But the fact of the matter is that I was prescribed 360mg of oxys a month,  taking close to 500mgs because I couldn't get mine to last 30 days and relying on a friend to supply me with more until my next script.  The Dr. started me on 60mgs a month 10 years ago and I worked myself up to the 360mg.
   I have no reason to lie about this.  Especially when our identities are anonymous.  Today marks 29 weeks and 2 days clean for me and never, not once, did I ever experience any cravings or most of the physical w/d symptoms that come with opiate withdrawal.  Now if that's not a miracle I don't know what is.
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Humm, what a discussion. my thoughts are that God is real, I was raised pentecostal also and I never heard such certain things heard. My brother a pentecostal paster. Jesus heals yes I believe that. but come on lets get down to it. I have no doubt I could walk into a church and pray for release from addiction, and I would still come out with addiction. God put us here on earth for different reasons and yes I agree he is real, he is present, and watching over us. but its the trials of our lives that actually heal us. I don't want some addict coming here thinking all they have to do is walk in a church and they are healed. That is very dangerous stuff to put in a suicidal persons mind. Taken the wrong way could cause lasting damage. I think all should believe that god can heal, but not with miracles by going to a revival and leaving without that pain, addiction or wheelchair etc. is how it works.
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I KNOW for a fact Jesus is at work in my life.  One year ago this month I went to my methadone clinic and told them I was takning in methadone pills twice what they were giving me. I begged for help. Only to be told to taper myself down. There are some of u people who are able to do this, I wasnt. I come from a family of addicts, have been one myself in one form or another since I was eleven years old.  My mother and sister are both addicts of the same, and very close in my life, too close. I was kicked out of that clinic for not being able to bring myself in control. For the last year i literally have begged God to take me. I was able to find myself in another counties methadone clinic easily. Through the Grace of God i found a Celebrate Recovery meeting in Jan. and started attending. I was filled with hope while there but unable to reach out. I really started spiraling bad. I needed more and more all the time. I see now I was being truly brought to my knees. I refused to think of putting myself in yet another residential program, i have three young children, i could see no way through this. Obviously my mom and sis couldnt help, at this point i was taking care of my mom and my sis young son as well. I am telling you this GOD found my way. It all just fell into place, my sister in law was laid off, and my new methadone clinic counselor didnt give up on me, she knew what i was doing and kept on keeping on till we found this place in michigain online.  Its a rapid drug detox tht specialized in people on methadone. I live in CA, i had talked to people all over the state, most wouldnt touch me with a ten foot pole, not even the KAISER CDRP doc who recommended i start methdone maintenance, from a pretty heavy norco addiction.  The only places round here that would take me wanted 25,000 for thirty days. My husband, God bless him, was able to find the money to get us to michigain. He didnt just find it, God made it available somehow. EVERYTHING came together, care for my kids, funding for the jump. I was scared to death but at this point i was swallowing 535mg methadone daily. My body had begun falling apart my heart skippin jumps all over the place, blood sugar probs starting, was killing myself. I cannot even begin to tell you the things I was doing to find the money everyday for my habit.        Anyway, u get the picture. Today i am 19 days clean, somehow again, GOD, withdrawal has been minimal, chills, and crawly sensation in my skin, things that can be handled. HE has even provided my way to a Christ centered residential program, that i will be leaving for soon. Im not begging for death anymore, i feel hopeful enough through HIM that I want to live.
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listen todd i have been delivered from addiction form the holy spirit and it was the besssttt feelin in the the world!! he jesus held my hand until i let go and went back out!! my bad!! but yes in deed it is true.. exspecially by the power of touch and forgiving. i am penacostal and thats what we believe!! its just geting through the sickness to get to church my friend!! trust me when i tell u, if u believe u will be saved and delivered from this hell of demons!! im no holly rooler but .. humans cant do this on thier own!! trust in the lord and go get urself delivered.. u wont regret it and could only help!! GOD bless u
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I like yall  to check out the revival and just let me know what u thought bad or good but i think that when u watch it u are going to be amazed watch it with a open mind thou . The times are above also the name u need to type in the first post i did here. Oh i will be there this weekend we are leaving out Friday early for the Friday night and Saturday the more i go the more my faith grows and more of God i get inside me u might just see me walk .Please let me know what u think if i did not htink it would help anyone i would not ask u to watch it .I love to help others . Bay of the holy spirit .org  or type in bay of holy spirit in Mobile Alabama if that don't work
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    It's all good.  No need to apologize, I guess I was just in one of those moods.  Hope you accept my apology for snapping.  
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I am sorry if you perceived my post to be judgemental.  Certainly not my intent in anyway, whatsoever, the facts are oxy is a hard addiction to kick, and I am very happy for you that your decision and desire to quit came from God.  For most people, it takes a great deal of incredible hard work  and very intense aftercare to remain opiate free, that is simple reality and facts.  I hope you can attend NA/AA meetings and when you are able to do so, become a sponsor for one in need of guidance and support. Or perhaps you could volunteer at your church for the youth program.  Go to the Mission and share your story as you feed the homeless and those with addiction problems.  There is so much need, and not enough people to volunteer, so please check out a few organizations in your community and that would be the best way to help others.  Good Luck, and god bless you for giving back to society!
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I appreciate your honesty and thank you for your support.  I was never at a tent revival.  I was laying in my bed at my house on day 2 when I got hit with a blinding light, and it spoke to me.  Instantly, and I mean instantly I knew I had this thing beat.  I don't believe a "psychotic episode" (however believable) is enough for someone to lose all physical and mental need/desire for their drug of choice.  I understand that for most people it takes more than a tent revival .  Fact of the matter is that I was taking 360mg of oxy's a day (3 80mg OC and 4 30mg Oxycodone) for 10 yrs. and on day 2  I knew.  Now how presumptious was that. The point that I was trying to make was that I feel an obligation to help others but don't know what to tell them.  I apology for sounding crass, just trying to get to the point.
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Personally, I think our minds are the greatest resource and power as humans we possess.  If you believe Jesus healed your addiction, that is great and wonderful and you should thank your Lord every day for such a miracle.  However for most people, regardless of their religious beliefs or how strong their faith, it takes a bit more than a tent revival meeting to loose all physical and mental need/desire for their drug of choice....   and to stop the abuse.

I would suggest you continue with an after care and on going sobriety program to mainain  the healing for addiction you have recieved , I wish more could be so lucky.    Best of luck to you!!
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Thanks Hubby.  And you know, you're right.  I know for a fact that I never would have been able to beat these things without God's help.  Today marks my 28th week clean and Sunday will mark my 28th straight week at church.  
    Honestly, what bothers me is the fact that I've been able to get off of these pills when there are so many others out there who can't.  And truth be told, it was all God's doing, not mine.  God intervened into my life, and I am forever thankful, but I can't stop asking myself "Why me?"   I mean, what do I tell others who are trying to quit without implying that their faith in God is not strong enough.  I wouldn't want someone to tell me that the only reason I can't quit oxy's is because my faith in God isn't strong enough.  Who are they to judge me and my faith?  And I can't do that to someone else.  I really want to make a difference in peoples lives.  I guess I need to pray for wisdom.
     If you've been to AA then you must know about Bill W.'s experience.  He asked that God show Himself and He did.  I never asked. And I didn't ask for this.  And I know that I sound ungrateful...believe me, I'm not.  I am so thankful.  Just confused.
    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Hay you're not nuts.I'm Angledotcom's Hubby.I've had some very simalar experiences.I was hooked on drugs in my teens.I knew if I did'nt get out I would die.(Cocaine,pcp,etc). I joined the navy to get away from it.With out the drugs there was a void.I filled it with booze.After my third or forth dui I was forced to go to rehab.In rehab I started having a spiritual awakening.A.A helped a good bit but it was only part of the answer.The whole answer is a relationship with a loving and forgiving father.I'll call him God ,and his son ,who I'll call Jesus.Thats the only way I know of ,that will have any lasting results.He is our healer,our deliverer and our savior.Seek him.
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has anyone been delivered from pain meds from Jesus ? you mean quitting them ? yes, it happens everyday without asking him for help , with faith on him too.

and the second question about pain ? again, if it happens without him, with faith on him much more, mind is powerful, faith is the strongest and powerful force but this is really not the usual thing to happen with or without faith that of healing miracously from an illness so have faith and patience...i mean, Delia Knox had faith and nonetheless she spent years on the wheelchair.

And i am really happy for you that you have been already feeling better !!

I wish you the best   :)
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I think once i get my faith builded up i will be .You have to seek Jesus and if he sees u want to give him a try he will help u . What do i or anyone have to lose to try it ? Watch the Revival on line and see what u think just try and see if u feel him or see if its helps u in anyway even give u hope . The Revival is very diffrent than others  its not like u probley think . Its called Bay of the Holy Spirit .org you will see live streaming Thurday 7pm Friday7pm Sat 5pm let me know what u think . People that are watching it now are driving 1000 miles to get there its been going on since July
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