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RX FRAUD!!

Hi everyone I really need advise NOW! sorry but I'm really scared I'm trying to be strong but I really can't anymore, well I been in the medical field for a long time and for the last 14 years I knowen a DR. and I worked for him for several years then left to worked to another state and for several yrs, then one day I asked him for a job and he said sure so started working, by then I was already addicted to pain pills offcourse he didn't know. He really likes me because I really do a good job for him BUT what he didn't know is that someone was  calling in rx in my name and other ppls names in my family and they were picked up by someone with my license and also put in my insurance. I been back working for him again for over 3 yrs and no problem so far but a ex employee told the doctor that she knew something was going on to check it out, so ofcourse he came to me and ask me if it was me doing it I said no and that I could do a drug test right that minute to prove it, so I did but he also requested his list of all RX's he has written in the past 2 yrs and there were all there so many of them for large amounts I continiued to work there trhough out the hole thing and it's been horrible he finally talked to me on Thu. and asked me again if it was me or if I knew how it was and I told him I didn't do it and I didn't know he really wants to belive me but I don't know I told him that everything points at me and that if he went to the police that for sure I will be the first suspect. But he said he has to make a report with a police even thought he already change everything about his RX and how to authorizethem and stuff.
He really need me right now really cause I'm the only one that is running the clinic cause we don't have a nurse and I do everything nurse, manager and billing and much much more is beeing almost 2 weeks and I can't stand it cause I know that he will go to the police and I will be DONE for sure. And I'm still working in his office and trustes me and we work like nothing is happening but I know that at any min. the police will come to work or home.
What do I do? Please Help any advise? What will happend to me? I haven't use lortabs since 01/09, I'm on sub, and going to therapy and with the help of a pchycologist.
Thanks
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Oh, and I'm here if you need someone.  :)
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Gosh, sorry all this is happening in your life.  No matter what the outcome is, you're gonna be alright.  Even if you get arrested, you'll get a decent bond if you're a 1st timer, and you can then get a court appointed atty for free.  The Court will surely give you probation, with conditions such as weekly drug testing, etc., and may want you to get off Sub - I've seen that before.  (used to work in the system)  But you're not going to go to prison and I bet a halfway decent atty can get it knocked down to a misdemeanor.  So if I were you, I'd start looking for another job and get a reference letter written by your doctor asap.  In other words, plan ahead.  It'll be easier for you to get another job (if you even have to) before getting arrested, placed on probation, etc.  And I'd be apologizing to your boss quite a bit and keep being honest w/ him about why you lied, etc.  Explain  how the addiction took over & it wasn't "really" you; but you are back 100% now and just hope he can forgive you.  Ask him maybe if you should find another job?  If not, if he lets you stay, it will look very good in court - even during this brief time you're still there; the fact that he let you cont. to run HIS office is amazing and says a lot.  So good luck, you'll be okay.  This is probably your "bottom" and eventually we all must pay for our mistakes one way or another -- just remember, it was a mistake; an illegal mistake, but a mistake nonetheless.  I can just about guarantee you that every single addict on this site and crossed one line or two during the height of their addiction.  So use this, learn from this and help others when you get to thru it.  God bless!  :)
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Well I'm in treatment I'm on sub since 04/09 and also I go to therapy try to go every week I just beeing to busy at work I put 109 our this pay period of reg. is 80 so you can imagine.
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983679 tn?1276833336
i dont know about the lawyer myself, part of me think it might be a good idea, but i do understand about cost. Have you looked into treatment? Yes, I do think its wise to stay at the doctor, I think that looks good that he still wants you even after knowing what he does. As for how long, that can not be answered, every were is differant, just pray that somehow altough unlikely that it just goes away, maybe with the help and backing of the doctor like i said you prob get off with only probation. Good night
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How long do you think I have for the cops come knocking in my door and do you think is a good idea for me to stay working in the same office? also the doctor I guess has to talk to a detective that will be handeling the case.
And I don't know if I should get a attorney cause they charge so much
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983679 tn?1276833336
expect to be arrested, however if you can show them at court that you are active in a good recovery program , and be able to pass a drug screen, and all that stuff you prob end up getting off with probation
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Well I was honest to my Doctor even thought it was to late cause he already contacted the police and they told him that an investigator will call the doctor in a few weeks if not he will have to call back, the doctor already knew since this Friday I don't know what was the info he received friday that made him decided that it was me, so I told him and he wants me to continiued to work in the office as medical assistant and also still do part of my job untill he finds a medical assistant that we don't have right now and he ask me if I will stay till we find someone and trained someone, so I ask him if I do that if he will help me if it comes to me going to court and stuff if he would say what he said to me "that I was the best thing that happend to him and his practice" but now also is a desapointment and I understand I feel so so bad really, so he said he would I also ask him if he would consiter keeping me in the office like if I do monthly testing and he can talk to my pchycologist and stuff so he ask me for time cause he was confused and specially today he wasn't even suppost to be in the office cause is a big holiday for him today in his religion, So I said yes I will stay cause I feel that in the end it will look good, don't you think? and ? for you guys now that is in the police and remember they didn't caught me in the pharmacy the DR turned me in so now that is in the police what should I expect?
Thank you
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Like I said before the best thing to do is to be honest. Get a lawyer if you need to. The part that they are not going to buy is this....even if someone stole your wallet with your ID in it how would they know your families names and birthdates. See what I mean? Like I said before I understand the fear but truly the best policy is the truthe and for them to see you mean it.   I wish you the best and you can message me anytime.
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199177 tn?1490498534
He is telling you he is going to the turn it in so its sounds like he will do that.Being that everything was in your name it wont be very hard for the police to figure out.

I would talk to an attorney I would come clean with the doctor see if he can help you .He is going to find out I think it would be better coming from you
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sorry if i have made it so long,
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Thanks for all your very helpfull replies I really apreciate it and sorry I didn't answer back but I was finally able to go to sleep after nights of none sleep what so ever thinking about this. Well someone ask or said he would have to turned it in (the DR) but not really because the reason he found out is cause he just happend to pull his report he wanted to know how many RX of everything he had written, he never writes RX's for narcotics at all never unless is family maybe he is in a field were he dosen't need to so that is how he found out and of course he came to me cause my name was there my husbands and my sons and other 2. I told him that I have lost my wallet about 2yrs ago with my info and medical card and that is how the person that pickthem up was with my id and my name. Some pharmacys ask for id and some never did the main pharmacy used they just required signature. It all started in mid/07 then sttoped in 2/08 for 4 months then back on in 07/08 off and on till 01/09 was fine then relapse in 03/09 and then since 04/09 nothing  and the DOC was Hydrocodone 7.5mg, he is asking me he was me to tell him but I just don't know if that is going to make a diffrence really as of last week I called the pharmacy board and there is nothing in my file I'm not reported but he did tell me he would have to call the police about this. I know I have to get a attn but my husband saids I shouldn't do it yet. ughhhhh!!! God, if you can hear me PLEASE HELP ME, HELP US ALL PLEASEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Sorry I just sound like I'm going crazy but I really do my husband just got layoff, I just filed BK the only thing we have is our kids and our Home and if I go to jail we are so done DONE.
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199177 tn?1490498534
If he does not turn it in it will effect his med licence ,he may be asking you repeatedly so you will be honest with him ?So he can get you help that might change the out come .
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230262 tn?1316645934
wont he ultimately have to report this? you said he got something from the Pharmacy Board? doesnt that mean he is being scrutinized for having "written or called in TOO MANY narcotics for a patient"?? he could be in trouble himself if he doesnt report it..
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if u did talk to him first he might not have to prosecute but make a report its up to him to file charges and he can file for a lesser charge,, if its ur first offense u could get off with probation...
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ok well i thnk i figured it all out i hope, ok this happaned two years ago rite honestly i would like to say tht since it all pretty old tht im not sure if theyll be enuf evedience to totsallyproscutute u good luck. but honestly i thnk tht sitting ur dr down and talking to him and say tht u had a problem and u getting help and on sub and tht u learned ur lesson, because u dont want ur  loved one to go dwn obviously if ur willing to take the blame thn i would tell him it was u and u were doing it cuz u were in bad shape back thn but u are better now and all tht stuff and hopefully he will be able to fix it or at least try help u. jsut my thoughts
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198154 tn?1337787265
schedule III is the strongest that can be called in.  FYI
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That was my confusion from the beginning      I understood you were not an RN  or in layman's term  did not have the authority to call in any scripts for the doc........   unless the scripts were forged from his med pad  and taken into a pharmacy.    I couldnt understand how you were culpbable  but I think I have it now....    What is the strongest opiate med an ofc can call in ?    my state it is Vicoden     anything stronger takes a handwritten note on the doc's pad...................yep even Perc.  I thought all of that was federal laws.  If That is just my state.......

I would still recommend talking to your employer   and not a bad idea to have an atty.

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That is true prescription fraud is a felony .........I see tons of heathcare workers do it though ......ugh
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I think if she did it she should go to him first. If he says he is going to fire her and prosecute then get an attorney. No need for an attorney if he doesnt press charges. It happens all the time unfortunately .......
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198154 tn?1337787265
he doesnt have to press charges.  Prescription fraud is a felony.
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You think he is giving her the chance to fess-up??.....and you think she shuld without talking to an Attorney first?....thats a tuffy....
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198154 tn?1337787265
I worked for my Dad, I called in scripts for him all day (just not for myself).  Assistants do it all the time
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Yep I did. Then I relapsed again a few years later..............now through sobriety and working the 12 steps I found that honesty is the best solution. I dont mean to preach. It is just a fact.  Most are very understanding when the truthe is told. It is our addictions that tell us to lie. At least that is what I think. There are always some that wont be so kind but if you did it you come clean. If he isnt pressing charges then I doubt you will be hauled off.
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She did?.......Oh, okay......thank goodness.  Please get an Attorney, asap!!!!

Luv,
Nauty...........
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