The pharmacy caught me with a "fake" script

[Needout]

I obtained a couple of script papers from my dentist a few days ago. he wrote me a script for 10 Lortabs and I had them filled yesterday. Today I forged one of the other scripts and took it to a local pharmicie, not my regular one. The pharm called my doctoer who said that he did not wright the script. So when I went to pick it up he said he was confenscating it. I called the doc to talk to him and plead my case, the doctor wrote it off as nothing and is not going to do anything. What I want to know is will the pharmacy still try to do anything even though the doc is not?? Please help with amy advice. thank you

[NashvilleDDS]

I've had a completely different experience.
1.I have had many many pharmacies call me to verify fake Rxs, once I denied their validity, they simply didn't fill them. They told the patient (sometimes one of record with me, sometimes a total stranger) the Rx couldn't be verified and sent them away.
2. I have called many pharmacies to report fake Rxs that were being filled under my DEA#. In a few cases, those patients continue to appear in my CSMD database where future Rxs were still filled for them again and again.
3. The most unbelievable is when I had an employee arrested, and I'm talking about searched and  handcuffed, in my office for embezzling several 10's of thousands of dollars. The detective found Rxs written for patients of mine that she intended to fill, AND BOTTLES OF LORTAB AND PERCOCET 1/2 taken in her purse with my patients' names on them. She had faked the Rx, filled it and picked them up all herself. Not ATTEMPTED to fill fake Rxs.....ACTUALLY HAD filled fake Rxs and it turns out after further invest. she had done this for close to 6 years and hundreds of times. You wanna know what happened to her with regards to the Rxs??


Nada. DEA didn't give a rats *** about her drug problem or peddling. She was convicted for the theft and 1 count of obtaining controlled substances fraudulently. 10 years unsuper. probation. My family however?? Bankruptcy, savings gone, retirement gone, no health insurance for 2+ years (with 3 kids under 4) just now beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel she dug.

That's another story though altogether. My point is, if your not selling it or obtaining enough of it to sell it or trade it for other illegal stuff....you ARE NOT on the DEAs radar.

[larbec7]

They are required by law to file a report and I am sure other pharmacies are flagged as we speak.  I am friends with doctors and DEA agents and they don't play around.  This is a federal offense.  be careful and stay squeaky clean

[leeisgettingclean]

hummm, more of this stuff than i thought...I was never brave enough thank God!! : )

[gg100]

I too have simular question,I have been adding refils so far no one has said anything to me but I'am very afraid of being found out. Have had same DR. for over 20 years &pharm for 10 years, have been circling the refills on benzo for almost a year.Felt so giulty I was going to tell DR. .but i think not now. But I have got to get treatment tappering s not working & Iam almost out of pills again, but no one is calling me back & will DR. or pharm find out eventualy? Iam so scared & haven't told anyone who knows me about my pill problem. Im praying for all of us!

[PromisedLand]

re: DaveSage....I take 2 klonpins (2mg/ 2xday for anxiety which I hope to start tapering off of this fall)..last time I saw the doc he gave me a script for some with 6 refills (a computer generated script for me to take) somehow, it was also faxed to the pharmacy for the same amount,same date, etc...I knew he had goofed...I asked the pharmacy if I can use the written when the faxed version was up and they said "yes" but just to be sure I'm going to check with the doc.  I suspect if I had turned that in for fill that day while they were handing me the already filled fax script I;d have a lot of questions to answer.

Jim

[pdr7686]

I know this does not actually go along with the orignal subject that has been talked about but I have a question. I know someone that ODed on Vicodin and other prescription meds. for Bi-Polar. This person was taken to the hospital and voluntarily committed themselves. The hospital had the meds. which the person had taken and at time of discharge was gave the meds. they had ODed on. Now it is on there medical records where they have been black-balled and can not get a prescription for pain. I wonder why the pharmacy at the hospital gave back the prescription meds. on discharge if they were going to be sent home and black-balled? This does not sound right to me. Does anyone have an answer to this? Is there anything this person can do to get off this black-balled list?

[peaceinknowing]

Why is this not an option, because of money? I know how that is -- did you take those pills? I hope not.

[DavaSage]

I just called a sub treatment center. Looks like thats not an option..

I dont want to tough this out... last time i w/d from mdone it almost killed me.

[peaceinknowing]

I'm a CPhT and know that the charges will not come from the prescribing [or lack there of] physician -- but will instead come from the pharmacy itself. ANY time a pharmacy gets a situation at hand like this, they are liable by law to contact the DEA with offenses such as fake, forged or copied prescriptions such as the one you attempted to get filled. Whether it was your regular pharmacy you go to or not -- they are still held accountable for situations like this, and can not jeopardize their pharmacy license for simply ignoring the law, if this makes sense.

You've received a lot of amazing advice here from members, and I feel the best thing for you to do at this point in time would be to contact a lawyer [which you have already -- assuming] and go from there. IF you feel that this was done because of an addiction that you once had in the past coming back to get to you, then seek professional and/or medical assistance for this as well.

[DavaSage]

Great info thx. The thing was the pharma started doing the refill math based on the NEW script. The intention was - finish your other dose (about 6 days worth etc) then go to the lower. She calcs up well lets see based on the NEW instructions you now have 33% more. So instead of refill in 6 days now its like 9 or so based on the one they HAD NOT filled yet.


Idiot.

[PromisedLand]

if they INCREASE the dosage or change the frequency of the dosage or the quantity of the dosage, yes, they can fill another scrips.however, if they reduce they dosage and you are within the framework of the original dosage and thus SHOULD have some left, they don't have to fill it.


Jim

[DavaSage]

Big question on script.

I recently had a Doc change a frequency (less) on a pmed script. The pharma then said well you now have some tabs so they should last you longer..... I had a new script. Thought if you changed the dosage that was automatically refillable.

Some of these Pharmas are a real hoot to deal with.

[avisg]

Pharmacy has the right to contact the DEA and even though the doctor said it was nothing to worry about does not mean he wont turn around and press charges he has to protect himself .That's why you need to contact a lawyer there are a lot of what ifs

[themountains]

Sorry I just read your comment.  I never looked at it that way.  

We have patients that have been in similar situations like this, and usually the police started with our office and then down the line, so I always saw it as the doctor's call.  I know a pharmacy CAN press charges, but I've only seen it once and it was on a "repeat offender".  

Anyways I still think you should just go to treatment- if you do go to court and you don't have a long police history most likely the judge will offer you treatment over jail time.  

[themountains]

It all depends on the doctor mainly, because they are HIS prescription pads that were forged.

If the doctor decided to blow it off, then consider yourself lucky.  Generally the pharmacy would call the police and when you came in to pick up the pills they would arrest you right there.  

All pharmacies have access to a database that allows them to pull up a prescription record on ANYONE.  It's called a "PDMP".  Most likely this pharmacy will note it on your name for future pharmacies to know your rap.  

Do not call the pharmacy, do not call the doctor, do not call the police.  If any action were going to be taken by either one of the three, it would have been done by now.  

If you are addicted to pills, the best thing for you to do would be to get into a recovery program right away so you can detox safely and work on your future.  

BTW I have worked in the medical field for over 10 years now.  I am also addicted to Vicodin.  I have seen many patients forge scripts, lie for refills, detox, you name it.  I feel pretty comfortable giving you advice!

Good luck to you!

[Needout]

no wonder then my doc is beinng so lax. thank you for asking you uncle. that's alot of help in knowing what i am to expect. wonder if the pharmacy always turns them in. should i call the pharmacy or call the police? want to get this resolved and get the monkey off my back

[GA Guy]

I just spoke to my uncle who's an attorney. He said it's not up to the doctor if charges are made. There was no crime against the doctor. The crime was against a federal statute. He said it's up to the pharmacy to turn it in, the detectives to look into it, and ultimately the DA to press charges. The doctor has no say what so ever.

[Needout]

Man I was so sichk of being a prisoner to a pill just like I was when I was an addict that I quit subs head on. Cold turley. It was like coming off the ops just minus a few degrees. When your in the right mind set and you truely want to set yourself free you can do ANYTHING for a few days to get to that beter place. I was on sub's for 2 years!! Clean for 5 now. Just had my first flub..as I like to call it. Wish you well and remember that you can do ANYTHING for a short amount of time.

Peace and Love

[Needout]

I have been clean or lets say was clean for 5 years. After this root canal I was pressing my luck and in pain. Guess thats why you don't screw with fate. I'm praying that this breezes by for the health of my marriage and my kids. What an ignorant mistake. The lawyers I spoke to advides me to hang tight and ride it out. The doc still is being cool , I spoke with him today and he said he's not pressing charges...thank you Lord. Thanks for all your comments. I am going to seek counsellling...anyone know in anyone in the Okla City area??

[Needout]

lko

[leeisgettingclean]

yeah you prob busted for sure. i see this 2 times this week on here. i was never "brave" enough to do this, thank god! you might be lucky. i WOULD go to rehab, or atleast talk to a lawyer.

[freebird227]

Not only should you seek treatment and a lawyer The phar. has probally black-balled you in the system.
This could be a blessing in disguise...God doing for you what you were not able to do for yourself.
Prepare for the worst and pray for a fly-by. I would be getting real active and transparent with my desires to get clean.
Keep us posted...if you get away with this .....I hope it scears you clean

[GA Guy]

I suspect that the doctor didn't actually blow it off as much as he didn't want to speak to you. You should really consider a rehab facility..to save your life and possibly keep you from jail. A young lady I just went to rehab with was charged with 7 felonies and 12 misdemeanors when she was arrested. BECAUSE she's done rehab and stayed clean 5 months, she had that knocked down to 1 felony and 1 misdemeanor. 5 years probation was all she got (and she's having that taken off when she completes probation). Proves that the court will help those that try to help themselves.

[NautyOne]

Are you kidding me?....do doctors still leave prescription pads laying around.  I have not seen that since I was a child???......dang it!!

I don't think it's up to your doctor.  I am surprised by his/her reaction, as it is their license at risk too, right?....I hope you din't try to write yourself a prescription for 180 tabs.  I knew a woman who used to do that 25 years ago.  Doc would give her one refill for valium and she would add her own "0"  times sure have changed.....

I agree with utah.......I would talk to a lawyer.  At least ask....

luv,
nauty.........