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[leeisgettingclean]

yesterday was day 3 for me and i slipped and took to 10's, i was so afried that i was gona wake up in full w/d's this morning but man oh man how God does bless...I feel better today then i did yesterday.....KEEP YOUR HEAD UP ...WE ALL ARE GONA MAKE IT

[BaronMunchausen]

You had two years of use, got withdrawals when stopping, and this time aren't?

By day three you should be over the worst (if there is any, which you aren't getting).

A slip on day three will not always set you back to the beginning. But a second slip in a day or two likely would. It's not a set formula but it tends to go that way.

[jollyman069]

I stopped cold turkey from a 4 year addicttion....so good luck I will be praying for you

[leeisgettingclean]

hey thanks for helping me out , i feel good today and thats all i am going to worry about is today

[whitie]

never used that stuff, but I believe it does help with WD's, cant quite remember what others have said about it.



I do believe they will come, but only time will tell us now. perhaps in a 3-5 days you will know.



dont sweat it though and just realize its going to take a long time to get straight, but trust me its worth the work.

like I said, I had to shake methadone, what a pain.  but I feel much better even though I am still not 100 percent, then I did when I was maxed out on those evil pills.

one day at a time and pure dedication and determination will only get you through this.

[leeisgettingclean]

colonopin at night....yeah beleive me not I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE LIKE  , so really do you think the worst is still to come?
I KNOW IT SOUNDS ODD, BUT FACTS ARE FACTS AND THEY ARE ALL HERE, I DONNO , KINDA WIERDS ME OUT....IT ***** WAITING ON THEM TO COME

[whitie]

yeah, man you sound just like me.  I know what its like dude, I had to flipping work and deal with them !! oh,did that $^%^ major @$$ !!! I took norcs which were the best pound for pound.


you have been on alot.......something sounds odd, you already know what the WD's are like and have been through the first stage of wd's before so why would you not feel them more, usually the longer your on them the worse it is!


are you on any other meds like xanax at night?

[leeisgettingclean]

loratabs and norco and vicidan, what ever i could get but never in over 2.5 years went a day without atleast 15 and 20 or more if i could get that many

[leeisgettingclean]

15-20 loratab 10 a day for a little over 2.5 years. Dont get me wrong have have tried to quit in past and always gave in on day 2 because of the horrable w/d. This time its diff, i can function, even go to work, h*ll when i tried before i was so sick i could not even smoke a cig. its diff this time which kind of scares me. I know i am addicted , i could not fuction without, first thing i did when i woke up every morning was pop 5 in my mouth and chew em. 45 min later i would be wanting more. I am just scared that they are coming and its gona be h*ll, but have you ever heard of them taking this long to come on? and btw it was norco

[whitie]

I am surprised that you are not feeling them........what exactly were you on once again?

norcs or oxys?? and how many a day?

[whitie]

also please keep us updated on how it goes.


and its important to point out that sub and done are REPLACEMENT OPIOIDS , so the body is still going to be addicted to an opioid...........period!!


jollyman is right, I know of no one, that took any opiates or opioids for long periods of time, that did not get major WD's,which is like having been poisoned, for me it was sneezing,flu,the runs,no good sleep for 4-6 days, chronic exhaustion and not to mention some other THINGS that are messed up for awhile !!

[leeisgettingclean]

so do you think that after six days clean with the one slip of 2 pill 3 days ago, yhat the worst is still to come

[leeisgettingclean]

do you say that because they were postponded or sometghing man because i am like you i was ready for h*ll. It has been 6 days and on day 3 i took 2 and nothing since. I am scared sh**less just waiting

[whitie]

yeah, you answered my question there.  best to taper off em, but it can be argued that if you got CT right off the bat,then clean time starts sooner.

I have noticed in the past,when I ran out of pills, tapering was easier for me.

sounds like you are at the same stage as I was......just did not work anymore for me and was getting sick of being sick and tired.  it wont be easy, but if you really want to quit you can do it. I FiNALLY decided to quit for good, and I had to shake off horrible methadone WDs,which takes longer. but I have managed to be 100 percent clean for 48 days or so now.

[jollyman069]

when they kick in getting redy for getting hit with a bat dude, unless you are lucky

[leeisgettingclean]

no i (personnal opionion and not intended to offend anyone)do not believe/trust in that kind of thing sub/meth, i am sure it helps some but not for me. Well today is again day 3 with nothing and day 6 including those 2 on last day 3, so i figure i sould be feeling the worst of the w/d do you  think that is a fair stament?

[NautyOne]

May slightly prolong since you took them so early in the process.  Just don't take anymore and you should be fine.  If you have taken anything like suboxen or methadone you may experience delay in your withdrawal because of the half-life.

Take care,
Nauty..............

[leeisgettingclean]

hey man thnks....today is day 6 with the little slip and taking 2 one day 3 and so far they are not that harse. Yes i do feel them but I can live. Yeah i was on 15-20 a day for 2.5 years and they already had quit workin , i was only takin to not go into w/d . D o you think there is still a chance that the physical w/d are gona get worst or sould that be about over and now its gona be the mental part?

[whitie]

I have noticed in the past, the WD's can be postponed a few days........and then they kick in hard.  the longer you use, and the more you use.......the harsher the WD's will be.


I have done it many a time, perfect tapers and all, and because it was long a long time and strong amounts of norcs and/or methadone mix, I always felt nasty azz WD'S. everyone is different. for someone doing them for 6-10 months it may be easy, but if you done them over a year or four,its going to be tough for most.


Lee keep fighting, taking a few is no biggie. nows the time to get clean, because I can tell you from experience, that the longer your on them the less they work and the more you will need, then they wont do much anymore at all, and then its a major pain to shake!

good luck

[NautyOne]

Hey, hey, hey.........whoa.....slow down brake-shoe.  I really didn't mean to offend you.  I did get irritated with one of your posts ......It's my problem ....not yours....

Please stay, and educate yourself as much as you can.  I didn't like the above post and I do apologize for Pi$$ing you off.  I was not my intention.

I wish you all the best in life and recovery.  I really do. I am not always the most gifted with words and am the first to admit it......

Luv,
Nauty....................

[leeisgettingclean]

hey not sure what kind of day your having but lets get some facts straight...I am not "poping" pills, i relapsed on day 3 and took 2 pills and thought you all on here were open enough to discuss this with. I do have w/d's but i am not gona dwele on them like you(as you have the right to do ) might chose to do. I think God that mine are not worst then they are. If you read what i wrote in all my post i say things like, not sleeping , *****, body achs, muscle spasms...i was a 2.5 year user , i have w/d. If you read my post i said after f**king up and taking those two  yesterday , i turned around and flushed over 80 of them down the sewer to get that devel out of my life. So i forgive you for what you choose not to read in my post and jumping to conclusions that i am "poping" pills when in reality i "flused" pills, but just so you know its  people like you that run newer people off of here
           I hope that maybe in my short time on here before pretty much being told that my way of talking didnt suit a few (if not one ) person/people...Good luck to you all and please keep me in your prayers as i will all of you , and I will keep goin towards my dream hope you all do same .   <3 Lee

[NautyOne]

Thing is that your popping pills and not having withdrawal.....and talking about it, culd make some people here irritated.  I mean......Count Your Blessings, my dear.  Many are suffering here, and suffering very hard.  I think you should do ALOT of reading here.  Even go back into the archives, and hopefully you will decide to put them away.  You look like a pretty young guy,and this is not what your life is suppose to be......

Please Stop.......It's so not worth it .......

With Love,
Nauty......................

[leeisgettingclean]

no w/d's for those 3 days but i just figured since i were having no w/d's then a couple would not hurt, but were my fear comes in is the fact that i know w/d's creep up on you and everyday you use your w/d's will eventually come

[NautyOne]

Lee.

I am confused.  I thought you said on your other post that you were not having any withdrawal.  You were at day 3 and didn't feel anything. i am little confused...But, regardless.......if you keep playing with fire.....your gonna get burned.  You work in the health care field too.  Not smart.

Tough love here.  ......

Luv,
Nauty.............

[jollyman069]

what you are trying to do is probably the toughest things you will do..But taking a couple of pills is just prolonging the ineviatable..as the other movienut stated w/d's will be there, it is a hell all of us addicts that are trying to get clean have to go through..stad your ground, stay strong, pray alot, and post here as much as you can.. i have 140 days clean, and it was no picnic but it is so worht with...You are getting your LIFE back!!!!!