Yes I was on subutex and went from 2-3 mg a day to this 40 mg of Vic. I feel like I am taking nothing. I am having the runs, anxiety etc... I wish I never went on them. I am so confused if I made the right decision to go back and just try to wean off Hydro or if I should have weaned off sub. I was having some side effects, headaches, bad constipation etc and so I decided after a month on sub I would go back to the taper plan. Now I'm worse than I was before the subs. I cry all day long and am a ping pong of emotions!
Am I understanding correctly that you've switched back from subs back to vics? The reason I ask is because I too, thought about doing that because the sub w/d sucked so bad I thought it would be easier to go back on hydro's and then w/d off of them. I'm not sure that either is the way to go. With the subs, YOU MUST TAPER, otherwise, going c/t off of subs will last roughly 21 days. I am a bit amazed at the sub w/d b/c I jumped from a pretty high dose and my c/t was miserable but I did it, my husband tried to jump at 4mg and he was so sick it was unbelievable? It doesn't seem to matter how low you get your dose, your going to go through some type of w/d? I guess what I'm saying is if you are taking the vics b/c of the sub w/d , I'm thinking you will have to be on them for at least 4 weeks and then start a taper plan w/ your doctor from there if your trying to avoid w/d? I hope this makes sense, but if your not able to go cold turkey, I would definately rather w/d off of vics over the subs, for SURE!
You said you have been on Paxil for 15 yrs so i would talk to your doctor and be totally honest with him/her about your addiction and the depression. It may be that the Paxil just isnt working anymore. They have many good AD meds out there now that are non addictive.
sosa d, I just commented on your j, but i'll chime in here. I agree with cik I read the same thing in your post, I don't think you are "mentally weak" its just a gee dam hard thing to come off of, the pills ...!!! I tapered, initially. though I have relapsed a lot the taper was good for me then. Pm me if you want to talk. You can do this.
Wanted to throw a suggestion out here....
I've been reading some of your posts and think I read that your Mother is coming in a "couple of weeks" to help with the kids, right?
Since you are at 37-40 mg NOW....you can take these couple of weeks before your Mother arrives to continue tapering....read ALL you can here on this forum every day.....get some supplies laid in.....form a plan.....and then when she arrives utilize the valuable time she is there to help you to totally get off the narcotics. The first 3-4 days will be the worst and you will have the BENEFIT of having her THERE to help you!
The only other thing I would suggest is to quit telling yourself that you are "mentally weak"....because our bodies believe EVERYTHING our brains tell them. Start affirming yourself.....telling yourself you CAN DO THIS......believe that you can. Don't let that negative voice fill you with fear and doubt....feed what you want to grow...and starve what you want to die~
Hello and I can only tell you what I've gone through and hope it helps...I took a lot of Percs, I mean a lot, about 30-40 a day, and switched to methadone. I understand it is similar to suboxine....first let me say, I am not completely off of it, so I cannot tell you things are spiffy yet, but in short order, I will be tapered off. I'm currently at 3mgs, but was up to over 120 at the highest. I've tapered down slowly, with almost no side effects, for the last two years. It's long and arduous, but it can be done. Give yourself time and patience. Your mother coming is amazing, sounds like she is very supportive and you will need her. Be 100% with her! no sugar coating the problem, so she can hold you accountable. So, if you want to taper, I believe that giving yourself a long time will be the most successful option. I never had the strength to c/t, that was only something that happened every time I ran out. I can also tell you that after you are clean (because you really CAN be) you can never take just one. Not even one. I did this after three years for teeth and became a disgusting person to myself again. Ok now, but it's going to be a struggle forever, just remember and prepare for that too. The very best of luck to you! You're here, so you already are mentally trying to do it, our bodies are stronger and more resilient than we know. Hope this helps. <3
ty for the quick response. It is hard... my mother will be tracking my pills once she comes. I know i am fooling myself but i keep saying I will feel so much better once i get below my rxed dose so at least the pill counting and stress of that will stop. I have a legit problem to be on the pills as most did and it ruined me...ive lost 3 years of my life and have isolated everyone ...its hard to believe I used to be so outgoing. I do nothing but obsess over this. My stomach and depression ultimately stops me from ct. which i tried once. I went t the er after 4 days of no sleep and felt suicidal. I really am such a weak person mentally..its so sad. But I want to be done with this life and want to enjoy my family... its not fair to them that mommy is always "sick" with stomach problems and tired.
Sorry i keep venting on every post..i need to stop this pitty party. THank you both for the quick reply again. It means a lot!
IDK even on a low dose you will still have to jump and may feel uncomfortable, I did ct off methadone worked 12 hour shifts and moved my house, you never know how strong you are , until being strong becomes the only option. I just kept moving forward. I am sure others have keep checking back. Its hard but worth it
Hi there, well, I can only speak for myself of course, tapering works for me, (from Suboxone) because I only get a week's supply at a time. So it is kinda controlled for me. I COULD not do it alone, as I don't trust myself. Hundreds of times, I had a supply and tried on my own. Nope, didn't work (for me)
You will get lots of support chimed in as there are many here that have given up the hell one way or another. Tapering or cut off.
So I guess in reply to your post, I do have a success taper story! All the best...
Perhaps you could have a friend or loved one that knows EVERYTHING, control your dose. I'm not sure if that would work for you??