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Hydrocodone Binge

Hi, i'd recently come off oxy - and its been almost 6 months, and i got a hydrocodone script cuz i have serious joint problems, I havnt been able to control taking the hydrocodone - i'd get it then take 120 in 10 days then get withdrawls, the first time i had Kratom & it helped - when that wore out i was off everything 12 days before getting my vicodin script again...
now i messed up AGAIN and took all of them AGAIN in about 10 days - taking 3-4 at a time - ( 7.5-325 mg)
now i only have a handfull left, and am TRYING to not take the whole handfull at once! I've been up most the night sweating my butt off then w/chills- havnt had the stomach yet - but i'm wondering do you go into full on w/d after a binge?
the time before this i'd not really had that time w/ no pills in me - i'd gotten my script then either tappered better or got some from family and was able to just be uncomfortable  but w/much less -
i'm thinking i can't have a script at ALL cuz i obviously can't control the addiction -
i feel wd's but i'm hoping they wont get too nuts - so i can continue w/ the days coming ahead ( the oxy wd is so insane i was sick for over a month - bed-ridden going insane - the hydrocodone is nothing in comparision - but is still really bad like having the flu

does anyone out there know id a binge like this can give you full on week long wd's ????
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1218318 tn?1266808601
Day 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is wonderful.
Things got better for me fast after that. I remember when I went to a new NA meeting for the 1st time on day 5 (actually NIGHT 5) Someone introduced themselves and I held up 5 fingers and said "day 5, WDS". He said "Welcome!" I didn't say much at that meeting, but I did get a "surrender" chip. I was all done. So far so good. Day 16 now. Amazing. You hang in Margo, the miracle is now right around the corner.
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Hi, i'm feeling a little more energy but my stomachs really really realllllly bad -off - im on day5 and i hoped my stomach might start letting up - no such luck -
:(
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1230105 tn?1267482015
  Hey girl-um, just wanted to say hi and let ya know I'm in it with ya! 15 vics a day and here I go cold turkey...I already feel hot and cold, 'gross' body functions are setting in and I feel a bit dizzy trying to stand too long---just know you and I, wherever we are in distance, are in this together.
   I've just begun. But I'm proud of you-we can make it-life really does depend on it. I know that sounds cheesy maybe, but it's true.
   Lotsa Love and Luck! Lori
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I slept - feeling depressed and have no energy - my stomachs sick and its hard to move around -
:(
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wow - my stomachs been really really ill & it was hard sleeping but i can't believe i did at all honestly -
im having bad muscle and joint pain -but i'm hoping that will start to let up tmrw seeing as how i was in LESS pain when clean from opiates even w/ joint problem ( weird right ) ? its true opiates confuse your brain about pain
i think i was being an optomistic and foolish addict when i though a binge wouldnt have concequences! i really hate opiates - and looks like they hate me too cuz i feel AWfUL
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:) thank so much - im in so much pain everywhere its hard to describe! hot baths are helping while i'm in them -
ive felt so incredibly hot it makes the day pass reallly slowly
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1218318 tn?1266808601
Just remember that this will pass. You'll live through this, and at the other end of the tunnel you'll find yourself back to normal. I took it 1 minute at a time when I was where Ur at, and got through it. I never want to go there again! Hang in Margo, we're with you...
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i feel AWFUL this mornign, u were right alcohol didnt help - i just have a massive headache and my stomachs super super messed up now :(
this is hard - right now i can't seem to get up my stomachs tooo messed up
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1218318 tn?1266808601
How goes it this morning margo?
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401095 tn?1351391770
oh...and cool u r trying to stay busy and Move...it helps but so very hard to do sometimes!  (:
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401095 tn?1351391770
Tyrosine is good for nrg...not good for sleep tho,..if u r real anxious during ur wd then it may be best to wait a few days for the tyrosine..it helps the sluggishness
5htp at night helps the depression and sleep///as does theanine (real chinese green tea is full of theanine) and methionone (SamE precursor)  SamE is way more expensive than methionone tho
Also OTC meds like valerian root helps...some take melatonin..benadryl etc....phenergan is a safe drug that will knock most out for the night..it is a RX drug but drs will call it without an issue for a tummy virus etc...some use muscle relaxers as they r not addicting (excluding soma)...peeps with tough wds sometimes use benzos but risky....i used ambien but i do know this drug can be abused as well
Agree alcohol is a bad idea....almost got me last year during a time of stress...another substance like benzos or alcohol is not a good idea as both are addictive...yet i guess peeps use sub and it is addictive too...we r all different and we do the best we can to get outta the deep doo doo we got ourselves into without getting into even deeper doo doo

hang tight..and post often..seek aftercare and stick to ur plan...telling ur dr now might be a good idea to avoid temptation later
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Drinking during withdrawls is not a good idea, as you probably figured out. Nor is it good for an addict in general as alcohol is a drug. We addicts have to be very careful of crass addiction. How you doing?Becca
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right now i only have herbal sleeps so i probably wont sleep at all - i had some beers and now i feel INCREDIBLY HOT like im sweating my *** off!
my nose is running -
i've had all this happen before - somehow it seem new and way more terrible!
of course though its not like it would get easier each time huh!

:( :( :( :(
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i feel you on the sleep issue, that was the worse w/d for me, it actually took me back to using several times. I will tell you this...it does get better. After about 4 days you will feel better and after about 7 -10 days you be sleeping pretty good again. Do you have any OTC sleep aids?
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1218318 tn?1266808601
Margo,

I hope you're hanging on to the willingness. Everything is possible with the willingness to change.

I just got back from a really great NA meeting, listened to some really great sharing, from 16 folks I never saw in my life before. It's just like on here, but in person. Just so I know that I'm not doing this alone. None of us really wanted to get addicted, it's just how we reacted to opiates. I think I'll be able to get to bed free and clean from drugs tonight.
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Margo, Hang in there..The worst part is 4 or 5 days..Take some long Hot Baths, listen to music you liked when you were a kid..Do you have anything for anxiety?  Taking a walk really helped me the first week..I'm 52 days clean of OXy's Vics and Somas that I used everyday for 3 years.  If I can do it so can you..Lots of people here to help you..Good Luck and keep Posting
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ugh i dont feel so good
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hi, thanks you guys - i've been cleaning trying to keep moving, last time i went through vic wd's moving around def. helped, it was stopping and sitting that got hard -
im sad i messed up again like this, especially having so recenlty kicked oxy - i thought something like that would kick that addiction outa me! ( its total hell)
i feel sicker and sicker, my stomach starting to get all soupy :( worst thing is i cant tell anyone else about this cuz they all think i dont get any pain meds - i didnt want them to tell me no w/ the vics i suppose cuz i knew i'd keep the addiction and be able to feel ' high ' - the worst part is that that high is sickening too - and obviously coming down is way more sickening -
i dont know how i'll sleep tonight, :(
i had the thomas recipe stuff but used it all - i need to get more tyrosine and restless legs today -
i have been afraid of liver damage :( i hope i'm ok inside ...

im really dissapointed in myself - its making dealing w/ all this right now way more difficult :(
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1218318 tn?1266808601
I had to get off of opiates too Margo. I started taking too many. It ***** to go thru wds. I go here all the time, and to NA meetings, for support.

I have a good pain doctor. The next time I have uncontrollable pain my thinking for me is to tell him I'm addicted and can't control taking vikes anymore. I hear they have ways to use pain-med pumps to control opiate intake. God willing I hope I don't ever need to go there!!

I wish you the best.
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401095 tn?1351391770
I am sorry..wds are no fun
Can u think of sumpin u can do to stay busy?  sometimes it will make u stop thinking bouit how bad u feel....MOVING can be hard to do when u feel so bad..but once u get up and get going u usually feel better..a short walk..clean out a drawer...sumpin active.....if ur brain is focusing on sumpin else it cant focus on how bad u feel....exercise releases endorphins..and u need those right now...tyrosine helped me with the nrg and depression///5htp did too at night....if ur anxious tyrosine is a bad idea tho cos it can make u more anxious..i would feel the burst of nrg after i took it...2000-3000 mgs a day to get over the being tired hump
there r lots of things we can do to help thru this part..have u read the health pages?

Please hang tight...post often...lots os support here
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i feel reallly awful :(
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401095 tn?1351391770
U r most probably right...u do not need a scipt of any type of narcotic inj ur possession..when we take this much and we can not control it..it is not really about pain anymore..it is about addiction
most wds from pills last less than a week physically...a week would be max for most unless it is sub or methadone....i used 100 mgs a day of hydro and felt better physically in 4 days...we r all different

Addicts are very afraid of wds....some will use forever to avoid feeling bad for a few days...they can handle strep throat, a raging fever, a migrain headache..etc...but wds scare the stew out of them.....it is the mental portion..the craving that gets us...this is what causes relapse
what can u do this time differently?  sumpin u may have left out when u tried to stop before? Can u flush the pills u have left?  letting go is hard,,,but we gotta do it
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