I FEEL SO GUILTY

[stilltrying1965]

We have just had the most horrendous bout of sickness so far.Kim is lying upside down shes got her legs in the air as if shes cycling a bike and waving her arms about Ifeel so guilty she is so hot she is burning Im terrified she starts fitting coz thats happened to me a few times when iv been withdrawing before.What do I do if it happens to her i dont know if i could handle that.I know i could make it better with 1 phone call but im not going to do it oh i wished she would just sleep for a while so she could get some peace.I feel like screaming i want to punch the doors down the walls down anything but most of all id love to punch my EX dealer but id probably get the jail. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

[worried878]

best of luck..she is lucky to have u...hoping things r better now..if not a doctor can help by giving her something to get her thru this more comfortably....if she is not throwing up and keeping fluids down then that is a plus...imodium in ample amounts for the runs if needed...keep us posted..day 3 is getting so close...calling for more pills is only delaying the inevitable...so close

[gizzy32]

Let us know how you and your wife are when you can. This is day 3 now, just a bit longer James. Hang in there

[dominosarah]

I am sending you and your wife strength and peaceful times ahead...........sara

[Jacqui805]

Oh James I'm so sorry you both are going through this.  I'm touched though, at how much you care for and love Kim.  When I was w/d ing off of Fentanyl, I sat in the tub for HOURS, like swtbreezie suggested...I found that it helped my restless legs a little, as well as my body aches and for that restless/anxious feeling.  I had a really hard time with any noise during w/d.  I couldn't stand just about any of it.  My kids and husband were very mindful of this and knew not to call me or each other from another room, and to talk as quietly and calmly as possible.  We kept the t.v. on super low too, and nothing too eventful was put on.  Every sound was somehow louder to me and I would jump out of my skin when I heard the most common of sounds.  When everyone was at school and work, I was probably at my calmest because of the quiet.  Luckily that will pass thank God and I'll keep you both in my thoughts.  I hope that you're both feeling better soon.

[kim715]

I don't know anything about heroin w/ds but I want to just offer my support and let you know that I am lifting both of you up in prayer.Hang in there my friend you have some really great people here to help guide you through this and we're all pulling for you...Peace...Kim

[steveo30]

i dont think i will ever forget about this thread.that shook me up a little bit.hey man i wish you and your girl the best.sounds like your getting some pretty good info. from everyone.you're in my prayers

[grimgirl]

I know I don't know either of you ...but I feel like I do.  I can't even pretend to understand what you are going through but please know that you are BOTH in my thoughts and prayers....James...you are a wonderful husband and it is obvious how much you love your wife.....you are doing a GREAT job....Hang in there and I will be thinking of you both all night....God Bless!!!!   xxoo

[10356]

the temp is good.. I'm glad she is feeling better.. remember when the explosive anxiety and extreme need for the body to jerk around, move breath.. move breath.. You are both doing very well..
Heroin wd can get very scary... remember try to stay calm yourself and take care of yourself.. if you let the emotions fly out of control it is going to affect kim.. I'm very proud of you james.. remember.. one minute at a time.. your friend..  lesa

[madtram]

You are doing great.  !00 is good news & means that your treatments are working.  Withdrawal often feels like fever because of all the sweating etc & it's always wise to check with the thermometer but it looks like you guys will be able to see this out at home.  Stay strong,
Michelle

[swtbreezie]

Get some baggies put ice in them and wrap them in a towel see if you can put them under her arms and in the groin area it should bring down her temp, if she wont go to the hospital.  Also if you can get her to the bathtub and run cold water on her legs for the leg cramps it will help, it is the ONLY thing that helped my restless legs during w'd's  You two are in my prayers.  God Bless you I know this is so very hard, please hang in there.
swtbreezie

[stilltrying1965]

managed to get a babys thermometer and her temp was about 100 thats after the fan and towels so i dread to think what it was before that shes not really talking as such but is aware of her surroundings now mumblimg a bit but not as bad i was so scared lesa but so glad you got in touch to be honest i was hoping you would james

[10356]

The towels are good.. the fan is good.. there is a certain amount of delirium with wd.. tell kim you need to take her temp. Not to take her in.. so we have a idea what to do.. ask her Please from me..

[10356]

Hey stilltrying.. is kim communicating with you..

[stilltrying1965]

im never turning back now and ill never turn my back on this site either. When we are better we will be here helping other people and telling them our story so if we can help other people do it like yous have helped us we have to yous saved our lives.And i still have the phone off my friend and im going to change my number too

[gizzy32]

You are going to be posting a week clean before you know it and you better stick around and keep keep us updated on your new life after. You got all the support in the world here, but i wish it helped with w/d's:( Remember to keep that phone off, you can't turn back now my friend

[stilltrying1965]

we got a stock of power drinks today along with tonic water for the quinine and bananas for the potassium and a whole lot of vitamins and other fruits its about the only thing we can stomach shes calming down a bit now i just made her keep the towels on her she didnt like it but i dont care i had to she was so hot and shes lying beside the fan now but sweating badly still talking no sense but not thrashing about so much i dont really care how i feel just now i just have to keep her temp down at the moment this just has made me more determind to kick this demons *** clean out of our lives forever. thanks michelle. thanks everyone for helping me out there.

[avisg]

madtram brings up a good idea with the powerade if possable to keep her electrolytes balanced.

[stilltrying1965]

none of us drink alcohol its only heroin we are withdrawing from but im keeping a eye on her all the time i wont leave her for a minute alone

[madtram]

I agree, if Kim seems to be delirious, that is suggestive of high fever.  Please take her temperature,if it's anywhere near 104, she should be treated.  It's also very important to keep hydrated.  Can u make it to the store to get an electrolyte replacement formula as you would both benefit, given all the vomiting.  Sports drinks like Powerade are also good & may be easier to keep down than water.

If u take Kim's temp u can reassure yourself that she doesn't have a dangerous fever.  Extra hydration will bring a fever down.  This is something u can do for Kim.

Best wishes,
Michelle

[avisg]

Still She will speak to you again and I am glad you are going to need it if need be .Cool towels is a good idea and the fan .do you think this is as much the DTs from drinking as the herion I am only asking becuase there are more dangers when coming off of alcohol .

[stilltrying1965]

yeh gizzy mines were as bad as hers until this started im so worried about her i dont care how i feel just now gizzy i only care about her i was holding her in my arms and massaging her legs and arms got cool towels on her this is tearing me apart man but its made me hate the drug even more ill never touch it again but i do think women maybe withdraw a bit worse than men she has always had worse w/ds than me i dunno why

[stilltrying1965]

We are coming off heroin avis she has been drinking a lot we know we have to keep hydrated we havent been able to eat and wev had really bad sickness but wev been taking vitamins and eating bananas for the potassium and a few bits of fruit to keep us going having to force it down though but its all came back up a short while ago iv got a fan on her and cooling her down with cool towels etc but iv not got a thermometer and she really doesnt want to go coz no one knows she had a habit says shel never speak to me again if i do but i will take her if i have to

[gizzy32]

How are your w/d's? Not as bad as hers? Avis is right if you are that worried then maybe the hospital i don't know much about heroin. I have prayed for you and seeing what you write on here is heartbreaking. You knew what you were up against. Please keep us updated, you have been on our minds here.

[stilltrying1965]

i havent spoken to her for a while i cant see her maybe shes away out or something its just she looks so bad we have went through ct a few times but never as bad as this it seems to me the more times you do it the worse and longer the withdrawals are. mind you we werent taking the amounts that we have been taking the past couple of years, dont think wel be havin any sleep tonight either god i pray for sleep gizzy 10 mins would do but avis says if she starts fitting i must take her to the hospital but shes saying she wouldnt go coz then everyone would find out and thats her biggest nightmare but i would take her wether she likes it or not and shes starting to hallucinate gizzy im so worried