I doubt you could get anything in small claims, actually. IF you can even file there, you would have to face the doctor's med-mal attorney in court and your case would be dismissed so quickly, it wouldn't be funny.
For all the whining about "frivolous lawsuits" against doctors, it's almost impossible to get an attorney to represent you in a medical malpractice case unless the damages are extreme. You have to PROVE everything by submitting evidence from experts. And experts charge a lot to even write a report backing you up.
I feel very badly for you and really don't know what to suggest. Maybe talking to someone from a rehab clinic would give you some ideas. My best wishes and prayer are with you.
I have to agree with some of the points already made but wanted to sum it up:
1. There is a big difference between 'addiction' and 'dependence'. But the most commonly understood part of addiction is it results in over-powering drug-seeking behavior. Addiction arises from abuse or in other words, not taking a medication as prescribed or beyond it's specific purpose - and has a different psychological and social impact than what you described. And there really isn't any abuse potential to this medication... so I don't think you claim a doctor is guilty of malpractice for telling you it's not addictive - it isn't.
This is why Effexor is addicting. If it wasn't readily available through the pahrmacy you would see drug seeking activities for it. I would anyway and that's what scares me about this drug. If they statrted controlloing it like oxy people wuld seek it. The withdrawls asre as bad as oxy.
Nursegirl6572,
I have to disagree with your definition of addiction. Cigarettes are considered addictive and people go for years without increasing their dose (the amount they smoke). After a period of time, you don't smoke them for pleasure anymore but you smoke them to avoid the displeasure of nicotine withdrawl. The same can be said for Effexor. I take it at this point to avoid the displeasure of the withdrawl symptoms which includes just an overall yucky feeling as well as zaps that are hard for me to describe. I honestly believe that it is as difficult, if not more difficut to stop Effexor as it was to stop cigarettes. If I had known this I never would have started it. I have tapered off to the point of cutting a 37.5 mg tablet in eighths to avoid withdrawl and still no luck.
hi, you have posted on a very old thread, if you go to top of page, and hit on ask a question, you will get more responces, i dont think the people you are speaking to are here any more. best wishes sudie
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I AM ALSO ADDICTED TO EFFEXOR. I HAVE THE SAME WITHDRAWL SYMPTOMS AS YOU BUT i ALSO BEGIN TREMBLING AND HAVING NIGHT SWEATS. tHIS HAPPENS EVEN IF I MISS A SINGLE DAY. I HATE LIVING THIS WAY. i WAS TOLD BY MY DOCTOR YEARS AGO THAT EFFEXOR IS NOT ADDICTIVE. ALSO SINCE i HAVE BEEN ONE IT FOR 4 YEARS, I HAVE GAINED 67 LBS.
My dr has me on 150mg Effexor XR every morning for my p.t.s.d. Had no idea it was addictive, now im nervous. I also take 100mg of seroquel at night to sleep. As far as nightmares go, i highly recommend asking about Prazosin it is usually for enlarged prostate, i know... i laughed so hard when the dr told me that but IT REALLY WORKS!!
I started at 1mg and now i take 2mg and i used to have the most awful nightmares, just living the day my ex tried to kill me every night over and over again. Once my behavioral health dr started giving me that, within a week they were gone!! Hope this helps!
It is hard to wean off effexor, i took it years ago and had vertigo getting off of them. Take the capsule in half and take half for a week, then a quarter for a week and then a feww pellets. For me I had vertigo for a couple of days.
You can sue anyone for anything BUT I doubt you will win a law suit.
When you talk about holistic alternative, are you again trying to sell a durug treatment program in your "safe haven" retreat?
You are the director of this retreat and are trying to drum up business on this substance abuse forum. As already mentioned before.
By the time the law suit goes thru you will probably get a check for $25.00! We have to take responsibility for what we take, and have an understanding, at least a basic one, of the meds we are prescribed. As far as a health risk, as long as we use the same pharmacy they usually keep track well of meds that are compatible. As far as what the drug is for, WE need to know that, read the inserts that come with our meds. If you don't ask your doctor, you are doing yourself a disservice also.
I don't think the tobacco industry should be sued by people that smoked when they knew it was health risk.
I know I take full responsibility for the meds I put in my mouth. When it became stronger then my own willpower I knew I had an addiction problem. I could have continued to get prescriptions, it was ME that decided i would not refill my prescription and flushed 42 1/2 hydrocodones down my toilet ( I sang a sad little song, it was a sad day) I knew they were addictive, my body knew they were addictive. No one will save me, but me.
And no one is going to save you but you, and you know what? It takes every ounce of energy and spirit and perserverence and guy wrenching withdrawl symptoms sometimes to stop. I would not have the energy to fight with the stupid legal system. Save yourself.
good luck, Keeping myself clean makes me see things a bit clearer everyday. It's another perk to being clean.
PEACE
forget about the money and worry about your health.one thing is for sure,we are ginny pigs.the end steveo
Good luck in suing them. Doubt that it gets far seeing how they got lawyers out the yin/yang. But the thing is
Doctors should teach nutrition not pharmaceutical addiction
All drugs are toxic to the liver. Physician do no harm. That is an axiom from the beginning. The doctor feigns ignorance but have you ever seen any medication without side effects? There are alternatives. Dependency vs Liberation
Self Help vs. Control. True health comes from taking responsibility for your own health. Becoming your own doctor. Pharmaceutical drugs kill, try the holistic alternative.
Effexor is without a doubt a very nasty drug to get off of ~ I will tell you that my own doctor was not aware of the side effects or the withdrawals that come with coming off of effexor (even when tapering) - I wish I had never heard of effexor - almost ironic that the drug I can't get off of because I can't stand the withdrawals is the one that was prescribed to me. The nightmares are horrendous, the headaches worse, the dizziness, and the throwing up are horrible.......however the WORST is BRAIN SHIVERS. I could deal with all the rest the brain shivers make me want to scream. I don't blame my doctor I blame the manufacturer who put it out there without giving even our doctors a clue has to what coming off the medicine would be like. I pay sixty dollars a month for my prescription and I have insurance so I understand that it is a very expensive drug ~ I am thankful insurance at least covers it. I am in the process of weaning myself off and doing "ok" - I wait until the 3rd day to take one and every 3rd day I open the capsule prior to taking it and remove a few beads.........once I get down to no beads I will go to every 4th day of taking it. I have dealt with oxycotin addiction and I will tell everyone this - the relief that you get when you take your effexor after having missed a dose is felt within an hour - there is no buzz but the relief you feel once you feel better is similiar to that first time I ever snorted an oxy. Sad......... :(
adco88 - I wish you the best - I truly feel and believe that even your doctor was not aware of the withdrawals you would experience from trying to come off effexors. I will tell you this do not quit taking them cold turkey - and do not go through the weaning process without the help of your doctor. I wish you the best and please feel free to contact me.
greyghost9094
O M G!!! that gets me livid!!! my current pain management doctor had me on effexor at very high doeses and then i told him bout the effexor not working......i didn't know it was an addictive one ; / but he took me off of it cause it made me more suicidal than i was normally. Hey switched me from effexor to 100mgs of zoloft twice daily. said that usually they put people in hospitals to do that and i would have liked to but he said " I think you can do this on your own" given i was also taking morphine at the time, AND well. Keep in mind that right now at this very minute, i'm in SErious withdraw so i'm not, by ANY means, Sane or of sound mind. :P But i was like super major disfunctional for bout a week or 2 during my transition. untill i started reading this forum i didn't know that zoloft and effexor were/are addictive : /
-Billy B
p.s. Read my post if anyone wants to support me through my trials..... i for one am in a very bad way. Decision to Change, need support is the name of my post. thx all. and try to stay positive!
hey eddy from aus here mate go for it i was on oxycontin for 5 years and know drs told me it was addictive i onely found out obout 6monts later when i tryed to stop now becouse of a failed sue-aside atemt so theve put me on methadone and i dont wont to be now ther holding my life in there hands and dont give a **** how i feel is in some bad **** i dont know how to get out of
My husband took Effexor a few years back and was also told there was no risk of addiction, yada yada, but when he tried to come off of it he had terrible nightmares, was extremely sad, and had rages. It took him about a week after he went CT off of the med to start feeling better.
Now ever since that happened he's really anti pill so you can imagine what he thought of me, LOL!! No seriously I think in your case, as with my husband, it's a situation of dependancy and not addiction. Also if the doctor is giving you a script why is this costing you $5 per day? That's an expensive co pay if you have insurance!
I would suggest that you not sue the doctor because I think he gave you this medication to help you not hurt you. Perhaps you could talk to him about how you're feeling and he could change your medication. You have to ask yourself why you were put on this medication in the first place and if it has helped you in any way. Good luck to you and I will say a prayer for you!!
Has Effexor helped you at all, besides when you forget to take it? Sometimes when we read things about a certain drug we can get really scared and "take on" it's side effects..Although you must do your research on anything your taking ,you need to first decide , is this medication helping, do you really have the side effects that your reading about etc..My sister in-law takes effexor and is a complete mess when she doesn't have it..I don't know how much of that is really from that drug. I do notice a difference in her when she does not have it (due to no insurance) This anti-depreesant helps her quite a bit she says..You often have to try several different ones to find one that works for you..I agree that suing is not the answer here and will only cause you more grief..I really would share your concerns with your dr. Best of luck to you..
I have to agree with some of the points already made but wanted to sum it up:
1. There is a big difference between 'addiction' and 'dependence'. But the most commonly understood part of addiction is it results in over-powering drug-seeking behavior. Addiction arises from abuse or in other words, not taking a medication as prescribed or beyond it's specific purpose - and has a different psychological and social impact than what you described. And there really isn't any abuse potential to this medication... so I don't think you claim a doctor is guilty of malpractice for telling you it's not addictive - it isn't.
2. The previously thought increased risk of suicide completion (a 1.2 - 1.3% higher risk) compared to a placebo has been shown to not apply to adults in any way with the most recent clinical trials. For adolescents there has always been shown to be a greatly increased risk, as much as a 5 X greater risk of suicide completion and it is has always been contraindicated for adolescents. If your doctor prescribed Effexor to you and you are under the age of 25 - you may have some argument if you weren't advised of that risk. If you are older than the age of 25 - there just isn't really anything you can claim as malpractice.
To clarify, the 'black box' label warning only applies to adolescents and young adults.
3. Effexor does have a known impact on increasing blood pressure. The increased risk of heart problems with use of Effexor are all linked to people that had pre-existing medical conditions with their hearts. So by itself this isn't grounds for malpractice as the increase of blood pressure it causes can't be expected to harm a healthy person. So unless you had a diagnosed problem with your heart or blood pressure issue that your doctor was aware of, and the medication caused you damage to your heart - there isn't much of an argument for malpractice.
Effexor was awfull i tried it 1month extreme nausea for me so stopped it vivid dreams yes
I can completely empathize with your nightmares etc. when trying to discontinue medication. Effexor withdrawl is different for everyone but I don't think it should be taken lightly.
I will agree with everyone by saying it would be best not to sue. However, he TOLD you that it wasn't addictive (i'm using the term as physically addictive, because it really is) and posed no suicide risk. This is innacurate information! The FDA requires that antidepressants come with a suicide warning. The "black box rule" or something. It is very true that it comes with suicidal risks and has brutal withdrawl syndrome. I think he was very wrong in telling you it didn't, and if he didn't know then he shouldn't be prescribing meds.
I don't really know, but I'm pretty sure it makes sense that Effexor has even more risks for older patients.
Effexor worked good for me except that it gave me high bp. I was told to wean off of it, but I just quit c/t. I didn't want any part of it anymore. Except for a few days of brain zaps, I was ok. Every time I'm prescribed a new med, I do my own research and make my own decision. I was prescribed vioxx years back, read the leaflet that came with them, and decided they had too many risks. I was right, they were pulled off the market later on. Most of the time, I trust my Dr.'s opinion, but if I have a bad feeling about something , I won't take it...that's just me though...
I was on Effexor for over a year with little or no side effects. Antidepressants act differently on different peaple. You should never just stop taking any antidepressant. You need to be weaned off of them. This is different from addiction to say opiates as you don't crave them or have any of the mental addiction afterward.You may experience depression or sadness but that is more from the underlying depression that your experiencing in the first place. My event that caused my depression was resolved so I didn't experience any sadness or depression. Antidepressants are difficult drugs as it takes weeks to feel the effect, and sometimes the side effects go away and sometimes they don't. They sometimes have to experiment with different ones to find out which is right for each individual. Going through all of this may or may not be worth it depending on how bad your depression is. I'm thinking about going back on one and I'm taking my time and thinking about whether I want to go through finding the right one. I'm not sure if Effexor helped me or not. Good luck to you. Corey
I was on effexor for a little over a year.The withdrawls from it were brutal but you wont die.have you asked your doctor about lexipro it worked great 4 me and wasn't hard to get off.I am sorry about your situation .Have you tried to slowly cut back on the amount you take? you may want to try that. best of luck♥
I am going to have to go with the majority here. I don't think suing the dr is going to help you. I do think maybe you should find a new dr to help you get off this medicine and maybe find one that works better for you. -- just my 2 cents. JoAnn