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1490116 tn?1304817137

Methadone detox

Hi, I am new here. I am at the hospital detoxing from methadone, soma and Dilaudid  because I am sick of being out of it. I have two ruptured discs.  Does any one have any suggestions to help me? I am day one.

Inga
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1416133 tn?1351123217
I'm sorry but I have no personal experience with subs.  I take it from your posts that you were addicted to soma, dilaudid and methadone?  Is that why the Dr. wants you to start the subs?  Either way, whether you begin the subs or not, you're going to have to experience some kind of withdrawal and how long it will go on for is different for everyone.

Typically the physical stuff lasts around 5 to 7 days (I wasn't so typical as mine went on for about 2 weeks).  And that's when the mental side of withdrawal really kicks in but the symptoms can be managed by a lot of different home remedies.  What is your intent here?  To give up all the drugs?  If that's the case, it is possible to quit cold turkey - YES you will be uncomfortable for a while, but it will pass.  Kind of like a really bad flu.  And as I said, then you can manage those symptoms with various things - supplements, vitamins, and most importantly, some form of aftercare (i.e therapy, NA/AA, addictionologists, etc.)

And there are a lot of members here who have experience with the sub route, and I'm sure they can offer more insight into that process.  It tends to get pretty quiet here on the weekends though but keep checking in I'm sure someone with that experience will respond to you.
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Hi Karefree61 welcome to the forum ....you posted on a old thread it is from 2011 the best bet is to go the top of the page and hit the orange button marked post a question let me get a few more details and I minght be able to help  1st off what was your highest dose and did you quit from that or taper?? what was your dose when you quit ?? and wow long where you on it and your age this all plays into what your recovery is going to look like I came off 150mg over a 7yr run on the stuff I was 47 when I detoxes  my recovery was slow and I finely came around in 90 days just let it be known this is not for the light at heart you got to want it bad but if you do it is so so worth it good luck and God bless start your own thread and you will get a lot more responces we have many members who where methadone addicts............Gnarly...........................................
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Hey, I'm Karefree and going thru the methadone withdrawals,too, I've loaded up with juices, vitamins,the will to get thru the day without using, You really have to be strong-willed and determined to beat this sh**  A lot of water to get rid of the toxins and showers!!
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1490116 tn?1304817137
Thanks 4 ur comments. Sleeping is ok but I am also on seroquel still for BP. I am having RLS which I loath but I am trying to push through. I felt great last two days but I am feeling achy today bc I am stopping ultram. I would say the worst part of this whole thing has been RLS..it can really drive me bonkers-I get up walk around, use heating pad Etc. But it is cutting my sleep short even with seroquel. Talk to u soon.
Inga
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HI  well it souinds like you plan has worked many detox centers use short acting narcotics to ween people off methadone....I did it the old fashion way and just tapered jumped and stayed sick for around a month then another 2 mo to recover but 6 1/2yrs on the methadone and 10+ on the pills is a hellava habit to break just be pacent with your recovery it can take some time.....I realy feal they have changed the formula in methadone ......the last few people we have had come off it have been better within a month ....in the past you could expect to be sick for months coming off the stuff im happy your feeling well.....how are you sleeping ??
and hows your energy level ? those 2 things are usually the hardest to get past ....
anyway keep posting good luck and God bless.......Gnarly  
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1490116 tn?1304817137
Hi all. I started to taper down bc I got really sick Sunday. I am down to 800 mg of motrin but I couldn't do cold turkey. It was way too hard. I used Dilaudid and cut my dose in half everyday. I feel pretty good today actually. The last thing that I took was an ultram this morning. Tomorrow I will do 800 mg motrin and be done. I'm really happy:)

Inga
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1680698 tn?1304845815
Colonopin is an anti anxiety though the shoulda givin you a blood pressure med.
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1680450 tn?1306254193
I wanted to check in and see how you were doing as well. We all falter back to certain things every now and then, but don't allow for this one little slip up to jeopardize eerything you just went through in the hospital.

If what they gave you in the hospital helped so much to the point where you feel as though you need them now that you're out of the hospital, it might be within your best interest to go see your PCP and explain this to them -- just make sure not to switch from one DOC to the next, because it can and has happened before with so many others. I know that I did my detox/WD thing alone with the assistance of no meds or doctors. But since you were in the hospital, I am actually kind of shocked they didn't send you home with something to ease whatever it is you're going through right now.

Most importantly, keep your head held high through all of this, and know that we're all here to support you with everything. The best thing for so many members here is to post, post, post. Talking to other people while they are recovering as well helps so much with your own recovery. You CAN and WILL do this!
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hey ingrid,
how are you doing? i hope and pray you are still fighting the good fight. dont give up on yourself. you can do this. the beginning is tough that is for sure but you can make it through. we are here for you. please reach out and keep on posting.
i will pray for the chains and bondage of addiction to be loosed from you. remember you are trying to get your side of the fence clean.
may GOD bless you and help you
debbie
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1416133 tn?1351123217
Okay something not so great happened but don't let this one slip deter you.  Many here have relapsed and it's unfortunately a lot of the time part of this process.  But it does NOT have to mean you're a failure.  It means you're HUMAN.  We all are.  No one likes pain and yes, withdrawal can be really tough.  Now dust yourself off and move forward.  Looking back at this point serves NO purpose.  And I will NOT stop rooting for you because I truly believe that somewhere deep down inside you have it in you to do this.  Now it's YOUR turn to believe that.  :)  p.s. not sure where you got that percocet but you have to remove ALL access to the drugs for this to work.  Don't make yourself more vulnerable than you already feel.
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1490116 tn?1304817137
Something bad happened. I'm SO disappointed in myself. I got home and started feeling really bad, I mean worse than ever. Like my skin was going to come off, chills, shakes, my legs had to move. I caved and took a percaset. It took a whole hour bf it even kicked in and I still feel lousy but my legs are not shaken.(may be that my husband triggered me when I came through the door.) I think I need to go to a center. The hospital just left me on my own to ride this out. I still have
huge resolve but I feel like I need help badly.
Thnx for listening-Ingrid
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1416133 tn?1351123217
Hi Inga,

Well I know how hard it was but think about this - you MADE it through the night!  Okay, so now you have ONE night under your belt - and believe me, whether you know it yet or not, that is a HUGE deal.

Okay, the other thing I wanted to mention is I believe it's clonidine that you're all referring to - it's a bp med and is given to some during withdrawal.  However, since you're now getting through this med free I would hate to see you start up on another drug so maybe you could just see how the next few days go before considering that?

And I found your posts during the night to be very interesting.  It is SO true that your mind starts to go down those "rabbit trails" on the "what-if's" of your life.  Mine did too.  What if I had never started these drugs?  Where would I be today?  Would I be happier because of that (of course I would have been).  But you know what?  I have learned that the experience made me a STRONGER woman.  Stronger than I ever thought I was.  And I have to tell you that strength has carried me through every day since (I'm almost 10 months clean now).  And as strange as this may sound, I wouldn't give back that experience.  Yes, it was hard, very trying on my psyche and my body too.  But it taught me who I was, allowed me to be vulnerable and to realize that it is OKAY to ask for help.  We don't have to be SUPER women - we just have to be honest with ourselves and our loved ones.  It really is that simple.  And soon I know you're going to feel the same way.

And lastly - HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY!!!  Your sobriety will be the best gift you have ever given yourself you'll see.  And the best gift you could ever give to your children.  So enjoy that as best you can right now.  And go slow for a while - don't put any unnecessary burdens on yourself outside of just taking care of YOU.  The rest will come later I promise you that.  :)
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So they gave u subs for 3-4 days?
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1490116 tn?1304817137
Clonipin-yep. It does work bc they gave me some at hospital.

Inga
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Inga, where in Florida are you ? I'm in broward . Message me. I'm also interested in the blood pressure mess that were mentioned. Anything to alleviate my WD when I wean all the way down wld b great . Can u find out the name eleventhing? Ty. I was under the impression that subs had a certain time period that u tool them for and weaned down. I don't know why they wldnt of given u a script for something.  
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1490116 tn?1304817137
Yep, they sent me home from the hospital with nodda. I thought it was a little Strange but she gave me this long speech how subs have long half life and I would be fine. It took me about ten hours after my last sub bf I was in full withdrawals. Fun.I was there Tues, weds, thurs and they gave me the boot Friday. It was state run-the only one in Fla..so I guess you get what you (in my case don't$) pay for.

Inga
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1680698 tn?1304845815
oh btw sickness does not last 2 weeks, I think it depends on how long you've been doing the drugs. I was doing them for 4 years and I had to take the blood pressure meds for about three months before I felt 100%  
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1680698 tn?1304845815
Hey, I'm a recovered heroin addict, and the way I got clean was my dad rescued me off the streets and took me to a doctor I told he about my addiction and she told me about a new study of a blood pressure medication.. I can't remember the name of it.. sorry, but anyways i took it and I had no withdrawl symptoms. I would NOT recommend subs because there is a better way.
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U r very brave.  So they started u on subs in the hospital but didn't send you HomE w any ? Maybe u r in WD from them? How long were u in hospital and how long on the subs? How was the WD in the hospital ? And high five on the childbirth ! Both my kids came via c sec & I was a wimp after !
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1490116 tn?1304817137
Well , it is almost 5:30..this has been THE longest night save childbirth: (which was far worse).. I did that a la natural. So I can get through this I suppose, I completely rambling. The on slaught of awareness is startling. I can almost feel everything I didn't feel for the past 7 years bc come to think of it-I got myself in this mess with ultram first and worked my way up the pain management ladder. Sad.any comments would be fine.

Inga
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1490116 tn?1304817137
Well hopefully it's 3:15 AM. Still gone down every rabit trail in my brain. Covered all the "what if's" in my life. LOL.never helps anyway, I guess that's what this drug does shuts down all the places that you are too afraid to go otherwise in your mind. Takes courage to face them.

I will make it thru to 6 AM, I'm good.

Inga
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1680450 tn?1306254193
I'm so sorry, but hopefully sooner than later you'll be able to get some sort of rest!
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1490116 tn?1304817137
Yep, it's 1 AM. Still up. I would sleep for twelve hours on those dones easy. this is madness. I am staring at the ceiling, yawning and tearing but I am not giving in. Thnx for the encouragement. I am done being trapped. I truly want to be free more than I want relief. Please pray. I am pounding water.
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Did the doctors put you on any other medications to go home with when you left the actual hospital? The reason why I ask, is because sometimes those meds can factor into whatever it is you're going through. I went through my WDs without the assistance of any medications or physician's watching over me. If I can get through it without these, so can you! You're a strong woman, and keep in mind that you're not only doing this for you -- but you're doing this for your kids as well.

I know one thing that really helped me get through my WD was reading this site. I never signed up, posted or anything else -- I just sat back in bed and read what others had to say to one another in their darkest hours and times of need. One of the most helpful things that got me through was going outside in the sun.
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1235186 tn?1656987798
hey ingrid,
oh boy forgot more words.(correction)    life is so much clearer with all the poisons and toxins OUT OF YOUR BODY. do you have anyone close to you that you can confide in and talk to? or get you things from the store? it would be great if you had someone who could just even come sit with you....  i like your name, i  know a very dear woman from germany with your name she has been a blessing to us for many years.
yes just focus on yourself for right now.that is good to get your side of the fence clean. when my husband left  the hospital he went into a christian drug and alcohol rehab for 3 months. it was tough on us, but much tougher when he was using. i have 4 children, a son 25, daughter who will be 20 this month and 2 younger sons 13 & 11. we are all healing, how old are your children? there is definitely happiness on the other side of the methadone madness (i always called it insanity). my husband is more healthy and  happy now then he had been in 14 yrs. during his use. i know all about the mixed up tale we have (had) one too. but there is healing. time does heal our wounds and scars.
i will be thinking of you and sending you hugs,
debbie
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