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My Personal Journey... Update

So I am digging very deep and I still don't know what's right or wrong in my personal situation. I can't stand the constant pain, yet I absolutely can't and do not want to go down the path of getting addicted again. I know that takin the pills is only masking the problem with my spine but I just will not do a spinal fusion until I can no longer walk. I have been a nurse for 14 years, 5 of those was in pain management and I have witnessed first hand so many patients come in for pain management treatment that say they wish the never would have done it. Multiple people that now can not get around without the use of a Cain, both young and middle aged. I just can't do it, not right now anyway and I feel that I am in a catch 22.

I do " okay " not taking pain meds, however I just can't get out and do the things I enjoy doing. Most of those are spending time actually doing things w my girls. Even the smallest of things like walking the dogs or taking a short bike ride on the paved trail directly behind our home. I am sure you guys get the point. And, I pray that someone can truly understand how I feel and see how bad I am trying here! Trying to stay completely focused on my recovery, even though I am taking meds doesn't mean I put my recovery from addition on the back burner. It means that I am doing what I need to do right now to be able to live life all the while doing everything in my will to never go back to that dark hole, ever again!  I really Hope that makes sense?!

As of now, the most I have taken of my Pain meds ( OxyContin 20mg )in a day is 2 and I am doing good with that. I am able to live somewhat of a normal life.. Just scares the Hell out of me that I will want more than that over time. In my previous post I mentioned my Mother and Husband holding them. She comes up every Wed (she lives about 35 min from us) and gives my husband 1 weeks supply then he dispenses them to me daily. That said, he puts 1 out for me every morning then he does not and will not give me another unless I ask and I am doing really well spacing the time between each one.. I am RX'd 1 every 4 hours, 4 times a day. Right now I have been taking 1 around 7 am then another ( often just a half ) around 3pm. So around 8 hours. Depending on the day and how my back feels often I don't even feel the need to take another one in the afternoon, or again, I may take a half.

I want to point out that I am in no way trying to justify why I need pills. I have posted to update the group with nothing but pure honesty and an open heart, open mind and open ears to suggestions. I am also still attending my meetings twice a week and have been honest with the group as well.

I just don't know what's right. I don't want to take pills but I also don't want to live in constant chronic pain where I can't get out and enjoy life. Life is too short and my girls are growing up way to quick. I think it's fair to say that I am very guarded with taking them. If I get to a point where I feel " more more more ".. Then I will pull myself off again just as I did before. I don't have access to them even if I wanted more, my Husband damn sure would not give me more than 4 a day and there's not a snowballs chance in Hell my Mother would give him any more than a weeks worth at a time.

I want to stay here, in the forums and continue to support and encourage others as it is Therapeutic for me as well. But....I am starting to feel guilty. It doesn't feel right when I am taking pain meds and encouraging others to live a clean life, even though I am not abusing them in any way. I also feel weak because I know there are many people on here that have Chronic pain as well, perhaps even worse then me. Yet they stopped the pills..
:(..  Maybe I am weak but at least I am strong enough to be honest with each of you.  I just don't know. I am 33 years old and I just want to get out and live life and enjoy it while I still have somewhat of my youth.. And while my children are still young. They are both very outgoing and heavily involved in Sports. It's a challenge to keep up with that when I hurt so badly. Some days all I do is cry bc I know I will never truly be able to live the life I once did. Meaning the physical part. I used to love to run, to work out, ride my bike, coach softball.. and so on. These days should be the best Days of my life!!! Watching my girls grow and spending as much quality time with them as possible. It's hard to believe my oldest will be collage bound in 4 years! Time flys by so fast.

Just as it is said with detox and aftercare, one day at a time... And that's what I am doing now with my personal situation. One day at a time!

I would like to stay heavily involved in the forum if it's okay with you guys! I want to give back to newcomers what was given to me!  I just don't want anyone to think " it's okay to go back to pills.. DTS did " I couldn't live with myself if that were to occur. My personal situation is just a little different, or so I think so anyways. Maybe that's wrong and I am most certainly not trying to make excuses!!  

Lastly,
I want to say Thank You So Very Much to each of you whom have supported me so very much throughout this entire journey. Without each of you, I wouldn't have come as far as I am now!

To Our Angel in the Sky, IBK :
I miss you dearly and I have been thinking for the past few days..." What would IBK say ?!"

With Love,
Ashley
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I have quit posting on here for a bit just recently myself.  Here is why. I c/t off of 60-70mgs of Norco back in March of this year. Was off of them for over 100 days and decided I could no longer take the pain, I have a dic that is protrude.g into my cervical cord,and 0ne more disc that is herniated and 2 more bulging in my neck. I have a bunch in my low back, the same way. I also have TMJ, it is nerve pain badly in my mouth, face, nose,and ears.  So, I went to Pain Mgmt, and the doc put me back on the Norco at 30mgs a day./So some of us have that threshold of pain that we cannot cross.in other words, when your pain level cross that threshold, there is nothing to do but go back on them.  Let me be the the first to say, I tried every method I could think of before going back on Norco,  Im seeking treatment right now from a chiropractor and am going back to Laser Spine to see what they can do for my neck. So, im still seeking ways, whether it be surgery or wearing orthotics in my mouth, I will do anything to see if it works for me, in order to get back off the Norco!!!!!  So Im still holding on to hope that something else can be done for besides being on Norco for life. Just keep searching girls, maybe you can find the right surgeon to fix your problems. Im staying at a dose far lower than I was on, and would never go over that dose, my husband makes sure of that, but if he weren't with me I would do it myself.  We all want to be pain free, now I know at my age its not gonna happen, but looking for SOME RELIEF I know I will find it thru the Grace of God, he will lead me to the right docs.  Anyhooo  Just stay strong and keep looking until then take your meds for your pain.

God Bless
Chig
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Thank you so much for that kind comment! I actually meant to comment a couple days ago.. Not sure how I got distracted.

Thanks to everyone for their support and compassion throughout this journey. It is not taken for granted at all!

DTS
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Great post msdelite. We all have our own issues. I would like to think hopefully anyway getting back to what this forum is about. SUPPORT,Love, compassion. We can get judgment and attack anywhere. So thanks again
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I have been reading your story for a couple months now. I think you are a huge inspiration. You are so honest and keep it real. I can read in your posts you honestly don't want to be on the meds. Ultimately you have to take care of yourself sweetie. There is no reason to be miserable. I think I can speak for everyone when I say we are so proud of you. Thank you for continuing to post as it gives me so much inspiration and motivation! Keep well.
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I knew you could post your heart into this post Msdelight. Glad you did after our lil Talk. It was a GREAT post. We all have are own Recovery to work at and what works for some might not work for others. I am a Addicted who has bee using this or that for most of my life. Not proud but I HAVE to have that outside Support and DO NOT trust myself to take any mind-altering drugs. I could sniff them out like a Dog and find them..HOWEVER, I am getting up there in age and one day I might have to have something for pain. lol

NeverAgain..when I first started to go to some meetings either AA/NA we had a couple who would say the same thing..WELL when we open the reading, it says "WE ARE NOT DRS" so they are SO wrong to say that. I have heard all kinds of things that I thought was just to much. NOW I just take what will help & leave the rest!!!

Hope you are feeling better these days Dedicatedtostop!! My Hat goes off for you and how well you are handling the situation. Taking them as needed and being prescribed is NOT Abuse!!!!
Bless
Vickie
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Wow! Your kindness in your post literally just made me cry! I am at a loss for words at the moment, I really am.

All I can say is THANK YOU!!  So much truth to your comment
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I agree with you, msdelight.   I had a bad experience with an AA group that decided that anyone taking any anti-depressants or any other type of psyche med (prescribed) wasn't "technically sober."  That included me (Prozac) and a poor guy who had 5 years sober but was bipolar and taking Lithium.   We were told that we could attend meetings, but couldn't speak.   I thought this was absurd, and don't go to this group anymore.
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Nothing is as black or white as some of the folks on here seem to believe. Life is just one big grey area, and what works for some does not always work for all. In good faith, this poster laid out her pain, her truth and her plan. She goes to meetings twice a week and her meds are locked and dispensed by her husband. Who is to say she is not in recovery and can't post here? That's just mean and unfounded. It. could be anyone of us. We all live in glass houses, do we not??

When I joined this forum no one said it was a place where everyone had to be 100% clean to be here. I came to get off oxycodone and I did and its two years .. but if I'm at a wedding or party I will have a glass of wine, or a poke of a j when it comes along.  I am not addicted to it, its occasionall. Now perhaps I should reset my tracker or stop posting? I don't think so

In closing,  I would just like to point out that chronic pain patients are not junkies, they are being treated for REAL issues. Sure they become dependant. That's a side effect of the medicine. Then there are the junkies, people like me who have no physical issues but are compelled to do drugs to escape their life or just have fun. These are the people we should be laying into. The pain people deserve a little more slack. I work in Trauma, and I know pain. I see it daily in ways none of you can imagine. Tell me something, where did all of the love go on this forum? I'm sick and tired of the meanness. And that's my 2¢ents.
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HI
I sent you a PM. I feel that my post was misunderstood. YOU have been on here a long time and have alot to share. Sorry if I came across wrong. I am PROUD that you can do these the right way by only taking as needed and your hub holding them. I was just replying that I do not think I could. And I thought you would be very helpful in those other forms besides on here.
I do apologize if I was taken wrong. I find you very inspirational and glad you are here with all of us.
I am PROUD for you!
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Not much change. Still taking Wayyy less than prescribed. On my bad days I may take 3.. But I try to bear it as long as possible. Husband is still dispensing and I am still on track. I read here daily but some of the previous post really did upset me so needless to say, I am not quite over that so I am not commenting on anything, only reading. Perhaps what offended me the most was the fact that I do NOT plan on taking these for a long, extended period of time therefore I will be making the jump again. I feel that I too need this forum as much as anyone else. Again, it keeps me in check. I suppose that's hard to explain..

I personally think I took all of this on way way to quick.. The move, the packing of the 6,000sq house, moving back closer to home, which was 2 hours away. Moving my kids to new Schools, starting my oldest as a freshman ( if you have teens or had them at one point then hopefully you can relate ) then having to unpack a house while my Husband is in the midst of his Busy season w a deadline to meet. That deadline is Sept 15th an I can't wait to have my Hisband back... I really hope you guys can see where I am coming from! All this on top of blowing all my disc back out 7 months after my back surgery...

I want to help others w this fight, I want to make a difference however I will not tolerate feeling belittled bc I have a chronic REAL pain issue!! I take my meds less than prescribed As needed with my Husband dispensing. For those that have followed my journey, then you know how hard I worked to get where I am and I find it offensive to say the least.. And I am still at a better place than months ago bc I am able to control my use and still halfway get out and enjoy my life in a little less pain!
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How are things going??
I just went through this post again.
I too think YOU have every reason to stick around here. YOU have been on here for so long and know the Drill. There is a BIG difference in having them prescribed and taking as needed. This could happen to any of us. I just think you would be VERY helpful in other areas as well. YOU are a Great Inspiration around here and have been for a long time. I am proud of YOU!!
Keep on checking in and helping us all!!
Bless

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glad to hear from ya just keep doing what works and I take injections now they last about 3-4 weeks depending on activity so give it a try that could be the magic thing best wishes.
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I'm  so glad to hear that. I still haven't gotten over it the comments that was said to you. Glad to have u back. You have helped so many people. Keep it up.  Pm me anytime
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Thanks SO much for your kind comment. I am doing well. I will be honest though. Even though the pain meds help, I miss being free of everything. I just felt " healthier " if that makes sense. It's just a different feeling.
Same as usual, my Husband is dispensing my meds and on the Worst of worst I may take 3 a day... But that's the most ever!! That's way less than I am prescribed as well.
I want to stay here on the forum bc it helps me to keep on track! I also don't plan on taking these much longer. When I see my pain Dr in a couple weeks, I plan on discussing more injections.

Just wanted to touch base. I stayed away for awhile due to " some hurtful comments " but I am over it now and ready to be an active part in the community once again.
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D, from the first post way back when you struggled prior to your move this site pulled you through the good the bad the hubby issues the minor and major meltdowns and through the recovery process you learned how to help other that were in your previous boat... Now you are in a different mode of your recovery and that's fine and since you have got the will to help other just stay and do it don't let others judge you this is a site for "Substance abuse community" there are all kinds in a community don't give up the fight.
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Thanks Sarah!

Your one of those " many " I care deeply for! You have been a major part in my recovery for a very long time and I Thank You again. There is no high in taking 1 pill when I need it, there's relief!  I have seen a pattern throughout my years of being a member here and I am sure that you can relate... People come here new, desperately seeking help and we support them, walk them through those first 7 days or so then they are gone, not to be heard from again. I myself have sent PM's to such types of people only to get no response, therefore we can only assume they went back to abusing. For myself, an the others above in a similar situation, I think it's safe to say that if we were a using pills and getting high we likely wouldn't be here and would have " jetted " like many have in the past.
This forum, along with my meetings keeps me in check and remains a staple in my recovery.
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Here is a bit of advice....Take what you need and leave the rest.  You are more than welcome to keep posting here and helping others.  You are NOT abusing meds or promoting them so please stick around.
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First off, Thank you Luvdolphins and Puppies!

I have been on the forum every single day, just not commenting an honestly, I haven't felt like even commenting here.

Plowboy, Thanks for checking in on me!! I am actually doing good. I had not taken a pill in 4 days but took 1 today... Hence, AS NEEDED!  I was doing some gardening yesterday so I was hurting pretty bad today.
During those 4 days that I was taking Inprofen 800, I felt zero withdrawls and zero cravings. If my pain isn't bad.. Then I don't take them.. Period!!! My Husband still has them as discussed in my initial post.

I just wanted to check in. There are many of you here that I care deeply for.
I am not even going to comment on the above, all I will say is that it down right ****$d me off!! I feel that I have helped countless amounts of people here through their detox, walked them through... That's all I am going to say.

Sadly, I have taken a break here for obvious reasons. To each's own on their opinions.... But, if certain people don't know me and have not followed my journey, then please refrain from commenting. That's all I am going to say!!

I am still attending my meetings twice a week! I suppose honesty doesn't get you too far with certain people and that's just sad!!

I am VERY proud of where I am today and I am also proud to say that
I am " a recovering addict "
Taking 1-2 pills a week doesn't make me an addict IMO and.... Let me say this again.. I have helped many many people here get where they are now!!

Don't know what else to say!

DTS
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Hey, just checking in on you. How how is your day going
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I think anyone that wants to help and needs support should be welcomed. I'm pretty new here so I really don't know anyone, but I feel strongly that we should support anyone. Obviously unless someone comes on here talking about getting high or whatever that's different. Isn't the point of this group to have compassion for everyone because we all know what it's like? I also have chronic pain and am going to be seeing a pain management doctor. I don't know what will happen once I go but right now I'm clean and plan on staying clean. But because I'm going to be seeing pain management does that mean I shouldn't be on here? Please let's all remember what everyone is going through and remain compassionate to everyone.
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Great post puppies  you can pm me anytime. I  feel same way and have major chronic  pain  issues
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I just wanted to weigh in a bit on some of the comments in this thread. I think it's a little insensitive to make the OP and some of the othes feel as though they are no longer welcome to post in the addiction/recovery forum. I'm sure they understand that there is a pain management forum where they can post about chronic pain. But I think some people need to understand that there is a reason for them, myself included, to seek support from this particular forum due to issues with chronic pain and addiction.

Just because the OP and others in this thread have had to resort back to pain medication does not mean that they no longer need support for issues with addiction. If anything, more support may be needed. This is likely not something that the pain management community can address. The overall sentiment that those who have had to resort back to their prescribed chronic pain medications are no longer welcome to post here has an underlying message that they failed in recovery. I believe the OP was seeking support because she felt a certain level of guilt for having to go back to pain meds and she was looking for your permission to remain active in the community. To insinuate that she is no longer "qualified" to help others in their recovery is downright sh*tty. Again, it gives the impression that she has given into addiction. The OP may be able to give great insight to others because being prescribed pain meds means she has to keep very tight reigns on the addiction demons.

It's not like any of us who have had to resort back to taking the minimal amount of meds prescribed on an as needed basis are on here discussing how to convince their docs to prescribe medication, or saying, "Hey, I took this pill and it gave me an awesome buzz!" I feel that chronic pain patients with addiction issues need a place to communicate too, and that's why they're here.

If you don't like their posts seeking support, then skip them. Don't post something making them feel unwelcome and act as though they're banished from the community.

I appreciate those of you who have genuinely offered me insight and support in the past. Because I'm one of the few on here who has had to return to taking pain medication on an as-needed basis, I'll take the not so subtle hints from some of the posters on here and hit the road.

I wish everyone struggling through detox and recovery the very best of luck. Your strength in facing the addiction is awesome!
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Desperate4help. This lady has helped  so many people  on here   she has fought the fight like a warrior. So now she's  in need  of  support and compassion  and  you want to get her off site. Have you read  all her threads? If not read them!# please have compassion  for a fellow  addict. She was so honest  about  her journey!  I'm  praying  for  you  that you  can  find  compassion  and  love for her!!!!!
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Why is this not being switched to pain management forum? I mean honestly we are all trying so hard to get off pills. I'm not trying to be rude at ALL. But I think this is a total conflict of interest to be posted on here.
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Ashley,

I'm happy to have found someone who relates to my story. The softball mom life is very taxing isn't it? Especially when your kid is a pitcher like mine! I was glad we were in our two-week "offseason" when I detoxed from Oxy. I don't know how to send or receive PM'S yet, but if you ever want to talk about pain, med issues or softball, I'd be happy to chat with you.

Michelle
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