Suboxone Withdrawls

[SalaClan]

Trying to help my husband survive.....   This is Day 4.   RLS kicking his a**   We do the short outside walks, Tylenol, I odium, Epsom salt bath. I believe the Dramamine is making the sleeping worse.   He can't do Tylenol pm, benadryl etc because it hypes him up, always has.  Even phenegren doesn't help with the sleep only settles his stomach.   Any thoughts to help me ease his process??  Comforting words for him??   Lol at this point nothings too far fetched

[gnarly_1]

Hi...well cudos to you for holding your ground ....it is ez to become cross addicted wile detoxing  and your right  alachol only make it worst  its great you got him in rehab that will really help he will learn some of the copping skills to live life on lifes terms without the use of drugs.....to truely find recovery he will also need to get pluged into aftercare  A/A OR N/A  you did say you where already going to meetings  that is ausum and the single best thing you can do for your recovery  you both seam determined to do this this is all about attitude and your rocks!!! so keep it up we will support you threw this  recovery is a life time commitment but this disease does not have to kill you with time and a 12step progam the disease can be arrested and then recovery is possible  keep posting for support we do get a lot of wife's trying to help there hubbys on here... right now let him soak in the treatment and pray with all your heart  prayer helps  I know it did for me  best of luck to both of you.....Gnarly

[SalaClan]

Hey guys!!  Know its been a few days since I posted but finally getting around to it. Hes doing much better on the w/d symptoms and we started going to meetings.   But then he finally realized what his true demon was, which I ahve known all along.  The ALCOHOL. When he was having a bad day with the dts he would drink more thinking it would help...which actually in turn only made it worse!!   We checked him into rehab Monday at 215.   He could definitely use some prayers today!! Hes feeling weak....and called at 9 o clock wanting to come home. Im not going to get him. I have to be strong for him and tell him no so that he can learn to be strong for himself!!!

[motye51]

Ya'll are definatly in my thoughts.....7 days is awesome. Just remember to tell him, not going to die, and the way he feels right now is NOT permanent!  I was so scared that I was going to stay like that...but we don't.  The BEST thing I've read above is that ya'll made a meeting!  I can't stress enough how much physical relief I got from my meetings in the beginning.  About 3 weeks into w/d I started attending every meeting I could get my *** to, at first because it gave me physical relief and then later, I attended (and still attend) to be on the road to recovery!  Keep up with the vitamins and drink, drink, drink!  He's i the thick.....we did this...we have to get ourselves out of it!  I used the pain as an incentive....made myself mad!

[SalaClan]

Today is actually now Day 7 so im hoping him hitting that one week milestone is going to help!! Hes been getting weird food cravings so as soon as he gets them he eats it.   I have several people at his work keeping an eye on him and making sure he is eating and doing like he needs to.   Keeping my fingers crossed. Ive watched him dt several times from not being able to find drugs for a day or two but this is the first time we have ever done this on his own free will.   Hes stronger now that I ever thought he would be

[SalaClan]

After a rough night hes made it trhough 4 hrs of work so far!  We have another meeting tonight at 7 and hoping between the meeting and him being tired from work that he will sleep like a baby tonight.   I think hes almost  psyching himself out. He worries so much about getting sleep that he ends up causing himself to not sleep. We went throught hat about 3 years ago when he started working a midnight shift job. He would worry so much during the day that he couldnt sleep.

[SalaClan]

Im dealing with it okay. Got a little discouraged last night because I couldnt get him comfortable at all . He didnt sleep well last night and by 4 o clock this morning he was wanting to die.....I almost thought of taking him to the hospital for suicide watch.   We will make it through for sure, as long as he doesnt relapse!

[SalaClan]

Im hoping for a peaceful weekend!!  Thanks!

[BluCrystal]

Hi!  Good on you for not walking out on your husband! :)  Dramamine is for motion sickness and I don't think this is the correct sleep-remedy.  Go purchase a bottle of 2mg Melatonin at your pharmacy - this is a chemical already made by the brain, and it makes us sleepy at bedtime.  Your husband could probably use this - 2mg at bedtime when he will sleep for 8 hours.  Do not give it to him at any other time, as supplemental melatonin can cause a disruption in the circadian cycle (your inner clock that says yousleep at night and wake up in the daytime).  As far as what to say to him: "I'm SO PROUD of you for making a way to improve yourself!  This is Day 4!  If you can do 4 days, you can do five!  What special meal would you like today?  Or maybe we could go for icecream!"  Might sound corny and childish, but the fact that YOU are his best cheerleader will keep him going!

[gnarly_1]

Hi...good to see you post   sub is a tuff nut to crack  it is second only to methadone  he is doing great  his hands will get steadier as time goes on  remind him you cant dye from lack of sleep  but with sleep deprivation can be dangerous because the body will just shut down   NO DRIVING  take him to work.....work is good it will get him mind off how lousy he feels  cudos for hitting the N/A meeting  it will give him some plase to share with people that understand and after being on sub like methadone you can get hit with overwhelming cravings coming off it  N/A keeps me clean  it is the single best thing you can do for long term sobriety keep posting for support  you may want to P/M  atthebeach  she was on here for her husband also... she still posts often  she may be able to give you some pointers on support   btw your doing ausum already  my wife played a pivotal roll in helping me also...........Gnarly

[jifmoc]

Hey, Sala- gonna come in w/ a different viewpoint here. You are being an AWESOMELY supportive spouse. This is his journey though.

How are YOU feeling?

I strongly suggeste that you go to Alanon. It's a great program. You'll learn how to deal with your husband's addiction and stay calm and detached.

[Amandag78]

Hi, please congratulate him for me on day 6.
Its very lucky he has you to help get him through this tough time.
Its also great that he is getting out of the house.
This will make the time go by a bit faster.
I hope you guys both have a nice weekend together :)
Take care.

[SalaClan]

Day 6 is almost at a close. He has me boosting because his hands he says he can't make them be still long enough. Every night when he's tossing and turning I read him these posts...and he's so appreciative of it ball.   He says just hearing from all of you helps tremendously, knowing he's not going through this alone.
  We went to an NA meeting tonight and he sat through the whole thing.  We plan to go tomorrow as well....our town has 4 meetings a week. Its wonderful......   Day 6 down......  Day 7 on the brink...prayers, good vibes whatever your belief...well he could use hem tomorrow.  He's going back to work after technically 6 days off.

[Jerry198]

weeks bro I hated it seemed like I could not go anywhere without a bathroom actually looked at diapers for adults but at 50 I just stared at them and walked off.

[Jerry198]

keep it going on 7 it will be a whole new day and will feel different.

[SalaClan]

Hes a little down today but he did get about 5 hrs of good sleep last night . Eating a little bit more and getting his appetite back a wee bit. Its Day 6....   and hes still struggling through it...but its much easier than the first day Im positive.

[liliansdream]

Opiate Addiction is a demon.. I never believed in demons but once I hooked on morphine, then suboxone to get off the morphine I did.. It has the power to changed everything about you right the core of your being..   I was 6 mnths clean and relapsed 5 weeks on the sub's.. now this is day 7 off.. I felt better yesterday than today.. but I know it goes like this for a while.. good and bad days..  

Stay strong everyone... and contrags to everyone here who is kicking...

liliansdream

[motye51]

Lol, not laughing at u but soooo totally with you. I had diarrhea for months after detoxing!!!! In the beginning i was in bathroom all day and night, over time i just had to make sure i was putting food in b/c it came out as fast as i could put it in! Just keep eating and drinking.....it will get better....

[Fighting_a_demon]

I never thought I'd be normal again but there's hope!! I was addicted for 3-4 years. Started with Vic's to percs to oxy's. To then whatever pill was out there.. I could take up to 10- 10 mg (bananas) in one pop.. Up to 5- 80 mg (blues) in the course of a day.. Pretty much needed them to be normal.. I kicked it cold turkey.. Terrible sweats, RLS (it helps to kick at the wall with ur legs elevated) NO SLEEP! ugh! I don't wish it on my worse enemy! Day 9 I had to go back to work and Anxiety kicked in FULL MODE! Sweats, chills, body aches. I broke and took pills just to make it through the week of work to then have to start all over.. I finally said ENOUGH is ENOUGH and have been strong again without taking pills now going fully clean on 5 days and believe it or not I'm starting to feel good again.. Almost normal! I can't seem to get rid of the diarrhea and these dam gas pains but other than that I don't feel like complete crap. I take Ambien at night to sleep and get a good maybe 5 hours of sleep! And knowing that I'm getting better makes me feel happy and is giving me the motivation I need to STAY clean! It does get better people jus know that! A few days ago I wanted to die thinking I will NEVER feel normal again.. But it does take time. Has anyone else experienced diarrhea for over 2 weeks or sharp gas pain and if so what helps?? Thanks. I can't seem to stop ********!! It also helps to know I'm not alone in this!! Our mind can be our worse enemy its going to try to fight us all the time: "just one pill and u will feel good" I always gave in to that one. lol I now have strength enough to say "NO IM GOOD"!! Fight the demon people.. Show ur strength! U got this!!!!!!!! ;)

[SalaClan]

Well we are officially almost through with day 5.he saw his Dr today who gave home ambient to sleep. Came home and got about two good hours of sleep while I was at work. Now we are getting close tobedtime . Its 8 o clock but we are laying down early because that gives him plenty of time to toss .and turn. he's ate much more foodbtodayand taken his multivitamin.  
  On the upper hand mentally he is much better. He said even if it was bad tonight he's gonna be okay with it. He feels positive and knows he wants this change.   Wish us luck!!!

[motye51]

If I'm understanding correctly, he perhaps did what I did. I was taking 16/24mg per day for almost 7 years. I tapered for about a week and a half before I jumped on Jan 1, 2014. Yeah, totally not a correct taper! LOL, it's not the same as tapering off of opiates.  
All you can do is keep him hydrated, make sure he get's some food in him. A good high quality multivitamin w/ potassium, magnesium and iron.  I didn't want to eat AT ALL so my husband bought me those high protein meal bars which if I could get one down my throat, made me feel better.  I took 3 200mg Motrin every 4/6 hours, Gaba 750 (which allowed what food I could get in to absorb better), gatorade,  banana's, etc....Let him rest as....he didn't taper correctly which means this should take roughly 3 weeks so be prepared.  Make sure he does get up at times so that his muscles don't get too weak...even if it's just to walk around the block....get him to sit in the sun for the Vit D (helped my mood tremendously).....Immodium A.D for the stomach issues.......and time, time and time.  This is not the same type of w/d as opiates (IMO and I can have that opinion b/c I did exactly what your husband is doing now)....the half life of subs is longer than that of opiates...it takes longer to come out of your system.  Keep us posted as to how ya'll are doing....good luck caregiver!  :)

[SalaClan]

He didnt taper technically, he was on 2 8 mg films a day . He somewhat tapered himself off but at the same time he didnt, its hard to explain. However 5 days ago, he decided to go cold turkey. Last night was night 2 of no sleep. He got maybe 3 or 4 15-20 min "naps".  He saw his doctor this mornign and he wrote him a prescription for ambien and told him a couple of things to try to help get him through.  Hes heading home now to try and sleep.  Fingers crossed!!

[motye51]

Definatly try the tight diabetic socks....take a hot epsom salt bath before you lay down then put the socks on. I actually had a few valium in the beginning of my detox that i thought would help with the sleep....they didnt. There's really nothing your going to do about the sleep other than let it run its course. We dont die from lack of sleep and the body will give it when it needs to. Dont worry it just makes it that much more uncomfortable. And your right, taking OTC meds for sleep does make it worse....groggy, no sleep!
What mg is he coming off of and did he taper if you dont mind me asking?

[Ready2befree]

Tight diabetic socks and lotion his feet and legs with elevation.  Oh and a hammer to knock his butt  out if that doesn't work! Lol good luck I'm 60 days off subs  and it feels gregrgreat!

[Krissy_123]

OMG ya I found all them otc drugs to make it all waaaay worse. I'd just lay there and twitch. Even tylenol pm was crappy. Melatonin or valerian root? Has he tried that? Bananas are suppose to help with rls. I didn't notice much but it's helped others! Ok and now for not sleeping,I'm just going to have to say he's going to have to just accept it. He won't die from it and when his body feels it's ready then he will sleep. Getting anxious and frustrated only makes it way worse. What I did was get the kids to bed and then have a very hot Epsom salt bath and I downloaded the whole walking dead series on net flix. Funny movies are great. Whatever your preference is. But it helped my nights go by and not watch the clock