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Oxycontin detoxing but no withdrawal symptoms?
Hello all, I'm brand new here and found this site just yesterday. I've been abusing Oxycontin 20's for about 6 months now but the well ran dry 3 days ago. I was taking 2 to 3 per day and biting them in half to bypass the time release. I haven't had any in almost a full 72 hours and so far there's been virtually no symptoms whatsoever.
I'm not substituting anything to take the edge off with the exception of one 350mg "Soma" taken before bed to help with the potential insomnia. I have to be honest here, I'm actually upset that I'm not suffering because now I'm starting to feel like I can quit anytime I want with no side effects. I can get a refill in 4 days if I want to and I'm now starting to think "why not, quitting is no problem".
Anyway, is this in any way normal, to not experience anything by now? Was my abuse at too low of a level to have an effect on me? Is it possible that something will yet hit me? I was expecting to be climbing the walls by now but so far it's been nothing.
I'm not substituting anything to take the edge off with the exception of one 350mg "Soma" taken before bed to help with the potential insomnia. I have to be honest here, I'm actually upset that I'm not suffering because now I'm starting to feel like I can quit anytime I want with no side effects. I can get a refill in 4 days if I want to and I'm now starting to think "why not, quitting is no problem".
Anyway, is this in any way normal, to not experience anything by now? Was my abuse at too low of a level to have an effect on me? Is it possible that something will yet hit me? I was expecting to be climbing the walls by now but so far it's been nothing.
Im the exact same way, taking the same amount as you, also biting them in half....i kid you not i have never experienced withdrawals as described by so many. & i have stopped and then quit for a lengthy period numerous times and then started back up on them.... I don't know why i dont get the withdrawals but i agree that it might make us think twice if we did actually see the extent to which it can hit you. I feel like i wrote your post. Weird! i hope you"re staying strong.....
Hi Alexandria and welcome to the community,
You have posted on quite an old post probably from a google search. This post may be pushed back into the archives by accident. Your best bet is to go to the top of this page and hit the orange Post A Question button. this will create your own post and the members will get to know you and help you. It's a great place for support. Hope to see you. If you have any questions just ask.
You have posted on quite an old post probably from a google search. This post may be pushed back into the archives by accident. Your best bet is to go to the top of this page and hit the orange Post A Question button. this will create your own post and the members will get to know you and help you. It's a great place for support. Hope to see you. If you have any questions just ask.
You are very lucky...don't fill the prescription. I have been struggling with the help of my doctor to get off off oxycontin given to me after I shattered my leg. It is a living hell. I have managed in one year to go from 160mgs per day down to 90 and I am dreading cutting the next dose in January. I have never been so ill in my life with each dosage cut down. Once I get off of these completely, nothing could ever convince me to take them again. I've tried everything I can think of to ease the withdrawals but nothing works other than just suffering it out.
Does anyone out there notice prolonged depression while taking oxycontin, even when on an anti-depressant?
Does anyone out there notice prolonged depression while taking oxycontin, even when on an anti-depressant?
I've been doin 20s-80s oxys on and off for last five years I've quit 3 times and each time never had any withdrawals other than the runs and very little anxiety if at all not sure why always thought it b hard to do so from what a lot of my friends went through but not the case I would assume it because I have high tolerance but not for sure. I am now on day 7 of nothing and again nothing more than the runs and slight anxiety on second day but runs carry on for at least week with no cramps. I did lower my dose for a week then cold turkey went from 80 to 20 then nothing. I wouldn't consider it luck after so many times .is it possible I don't have whatever it is that causes mental and almost no physical withdrawal or maybe have something that other people don't. My doc is surprised he never heard of someone that quit that many times without serious withdrawals . If anyone has any idea why I'd b happy to hear it thks
Hi Shauna! Glad to have you here! Just go to the addiction:substance abuse forum (its this one you posted in, only you posted to an old post from a year ago) go to the main forum and at the top it says post a question. Use that box to copy & paste your post here into that ask a question or post a question box. You will get many more responses and also someone with tramadol experience can help you :)
Hi there i am also new here and wanting to stop taking tramadol i guess im looking for encouragement andsupport i have not told anyone else in my life about my problem not even my husband...i cant figure out how to join a community or start a new forum...lol
Hi pleasehelpme....welcome to the best forum around. I'm glad you posted. You do need help but I think you would get more answers if you made a new question for.yourself. this is an old post and lots of times they are overlooked simply because they're older. So please post a new question for us all to talk to you on :) we are all here to listen & we really want to help you!!!
Please help me i want to quit Oxy very badly, I am taking aobut 120mg- 180mg per day and want to quit cold turkey but am afraid of 1. The horrible Withdrawals and 2. I will give in to the temptation to return to Oxy once the withdrawals really hit hard. Also what should i take that will put me to sleep at night that I can get over the counter or make myself?. Thank you for the help and support......Stay strong!!!
You came at me hard Dave but rightfully so. In reading a lot of the topics here I can really see what I was fortunate enough to miss. Your comments (and others) we're taken to heart by me and they actually provided the needed mental boost. I took on an "I'll show these guys" attitude and it seemed to have helped. There was no way that I was going to be wrong. And believe me, I'm not much of a gambler so I'm not going to roll the dice and hope for the best, I know how big of a mistake that would be.
I would like to briefly explain my reason for continuing to administer her meds. Admittedly, when she first got her refill there was a brief sense of euphoria and yes, it played a role in my agreeing to stash them for her. My overriding thought though was that she's battled these things for years now and she's making an honest effort to get off of them. I only went through a six month stint. Not wanting to call friends or family into it I figured that if either of us was going to start abusing again I'd rather put myself through it than her. Fortunately I resisted and I just can't see anything that would ever make me take one again. There's no desire at all, in fact there's a fear of them that's keeping me away too.
By the way, the prescription that she refilled about a month ago? It was for a quantity of 90 - 20's. She hasn't asked for hardly any of them and after last nights post of mine I did a quick count. There's 78 of them still there and she's strongly considering asking her doctor to stop prescribing them. I'm encouraging her to do so, I'll let you guys know what she decides.
Thanks again for everything!
I would like to briefly explain my reason for continuing to administer her meds. Admittedly, when she first got her refill there was a brief sense of euphoria and yes, it played a role in my agreeing to stash them for her. My overriding thought though was that she's battled these things for years now and she's making an honest effort to get off of them. I only went through a six month stint. Not wanting to call friends or family into it I figured that if either of us was going to start abusing again I'd rather put myself through it than her. Fortunately I resisted and I just can't see anything that would ever make me take one again. There's no desire at all, in fact there's a fear of them that's keeping me away too.
By the way, the prescription that she refilled about a month ago? It was for a quantity of 90 - 20's. She hasn't asked for hardly any of them and after last nights post of mine I did a quick count. There's 78 of them still there and she's strongly considering asking her doctor to stop prescribing them. I'm encouraging her to do so, I'll let you guys know what she decides.
Thanks again for everything!
Its the truth of the matter disco..It "will" sneak in and reek havoc on a person before they even have a clue it has taken over mind ,body, and soul. Thats a fact..
I'm glad to hear you did the right thing Newabuser..We did come at you hard for good reason..You don't want to get first hand knowledge of oxy wd's to realise you want to part company with them..You just don't..
I wish I had found this site prior to my involvement with the oxy meds..It would have saved me alot of grief...I'm real happy to hear you decided not to test the waters anymore..You truly got very lucky..By all rights you should have gotten hammered...
I'm glad to hear you did the right thing Newabuser..We did come at you hard for good reason..You don't want to get first hand knowledge of oxy wd's to realise you want to part company with them..You just don't..
I wish I had found this site prior to my involvement with the oxy meds..It would have saved me alot of grief...I'm real happy to hear you decided not to test the waters anymore..You truly got very lucky..By all rights you should have gotten hammered...
PS.. I forgot to put quotations around the bit that Dav 125 says and differentiate between his and my writing.
The part that starts "WALK AWAY NOW BECAUSE IT WILL GET YOU" Is mine, and everything thereafter. Before that is Dav125's words of wisdom.
Thank you to Dav125. :-) You make a lot of sense.
The part that starts "WALK AWAY NOW BECAUSE IT WILL GET YOU" Is mine, and everything thereafter. Before that is Dav125's words of wisdom.
Thank you to Dav125. :-) You make a lot of sense.
PLEASE LISTEN AND LISTEN GOOD!
You know that song by Cher.. "If I could turn back time.."? Well you can't. I wish you could, but you can't. If I could turn back time I would go back to the year 2006 when JUST LIKE YOU I wrote to a substance abuse forum I had just joined. I had started to become worried about my use of Endone (instant release oxycontin, equivalent to vicadin minus the acetominphen (what you American's call our Australian Paracetamol)
At that time I was taking one and a half 5mg tablet every day of the week, and I felt no ill effects if I stopped (apart from 'wanting' the pill). I was concerned because I had gone from half a tablet once in a blue moon for migraine, to half a tablet once a fortnight or so whether I needed it or not because it relaxed me. After the death of my best friend by suicide I realised these pain killers treated ALL kinds of pain. Especially the emotional kind. The pain was unbearable. So I upped my dose to a full tablet, and started to take it a few days a week. Then every day. Then one was no longer effective, and I broke a second into quarters, popping one and a quarter into my mouth every day. That went to one and a half. At this point I wrote in to the forum, asking a very similar question to the one you asked.
I received many very similar answers to those here. The one that resonates with me is :
by Dav125
Feb 15, 2011 03:11PM
It sounds to me like your lucky here as "if" wd's were going to hit, they would have done so..
You are being graced with "one chance" to avoid the consequences because by all rights, you "should be in the throw's of withdrawal.
Walk away now and don't look back, but don't forget either. Next time, if you allow it to happen, you will get broadsided like a concrete truck hit you..I've played with alot of things over the years. I lived what you stated above that "well, nothing happened so I'll be ok continuing from time to time. How wrong I was.. I got nailed by these oxy's.
I was in danger before my first defense mechanism ever got a clue...
Walk now...It will bite you,,and hard..
WALK AWAY NOW BECAUSE IT WILL GET YOU. I don't mean IF I mean WHEN. I should have listened to the person who kindly gave me that advice five years ago, because it cost me everything I ever cared about. The disease of addiction sneaks up like a thief in the night. You don't see it coming. By the time it has you in it's grips it's too late to 'decide', the disease will do all your choosing for you. The price will be far more than you can imagine right now.
You are already a little addicted. You just don't know it yet. So far it's psychological addiction, not yet physical dependence. There is a difference. Once you have the two going together - the mental CRAVING combined with the physical NEED, that's the point that your medicine becomes your drug.
You won't want to listen to this. I didn't either. Oh, sure, I took it on board, that's why I still remember it today. But I told myself it wouldn't happen to me because I would be careful, and stop before it got too late. I had a chance to get off that roundabout and I didn't. It sped up and went faster and faster and faster until I realised that it wasn't ever going to stop, and if I was to get off I would have to jump, and it was going to hurt like hell. Excuse the analogy.. am thinking on my feet here. Looking for words powerful enough to reach you before it's too late. I don't know you from a bar of soap, but then again I do.
If you do nothing else, take not of what Dav125, and others here have said. Keep a journal. Mark your usage. Draw a graph in a months time and see what happens. Constantly stock take. Stay vigilant. It's your life. Don't blow it!!!
Sorry if I come across preachy.. It's just that I wish I'd listened to this advice myself when it was given to me, before it was too late. If you read my profile bio you'll know what I'm talking about. :-(
Be strong. Be happy. Take care. :-)
You know that song by Cher.. "If I could turn back time.."? Well you can't. I wish you could, but you can't. If I could turn back time I would go back to the year 2006 when JUST LIKE YOU I wrote to a substance abuse forum I had just joined. I had started to become worried about my use of Endone (instant release oxycontin, equivalent to vicadin minus the acetominphen (what you American's call our Australian Paracetamol)
At that time I was taking one and a half 5mg tablet every day of the week, and I felt no ill effects if I stopped (apart from 'wanting' the pill). I was concerned because I had gone from half a tablet once in a blue moon for migraine, to half a tablet once a fortnight or so whether I needed it or not because it relaxed me. After the death of my best friend by suicide I realised these pain killers treated ALL kinds of pain. Especially the emotional kind. The pain was unbearable. So I upped my dose to a full tablet, and started to take it a few days a week. Then every day. Then one was no longer effective, and I broke a second into quarters, popping one and a quarter into my mouth every day. That went to one and a half. At this point I wrote in to the forum, asking a very similar question to the one you asked.
I received many very similar answers to those here. The one that resonates with me is :
by Dav125
Feb 15, 2011 03:11PM
It sounds to me like your lucky here as "if" wd's were going to hit, they would have done so..
You are being graced with "one chance" to avoid the consequences because by all rights, you "should be in the throw's of withdrawal.
Walk away now and don't look back, but don't forget either. Next time, if you allow it to happen, you will get broadsided like a concrete truck hit you..I've played with alot of things over the years. I lived what you stated above that "well, nothing happened so I'll be ok continuing from time to time. How wrong I was.. I got nailed by these oxy's.
I was in danger before my first defense mechanism ever got a clue...
Walk now...It will bite you,,and hard..
WALK AWAY NOW BECAUSE IT WILL GET YOU. I don't mean IF I mean WHEN. I should have listened to the person who kindly gave me that advice five years ago, because it cost me everything I ever cared about. The disease of addiction sneaks up like a thief in the night. You don't see it coming. By the time it has you in it's grips it's too late to 'decide', the disease will do all your choosing for you. The price will be far more than you can imagine right now.
You are already a little addicted. You just don't know it yet. So far it's psychological addiction, not yet physical dependence. There is a difference. Once you have the two going together - the mental CRAVING combined with the physical NEED, that's the point that your medicine becomes your drug.
You won't want to listen to this. I didn't either. Oh, sure, I took it on board, that's why I still remember it today. But I told myself it wouldn't happen to me because I would be careful, and stop before it got too late. I had a chance to get off that roundabout and I didn't. It sped up and went faster and faster and faster until I realised that it wasn't ever going to stop, and if I was to get off I would have to jump, and it was going to hurt like hell. Excuse the analogy.. am thinking on my feet here. Looking for words powerful enough to reach you before it's too late. I don't know you from a bar of soap, but then again I do.
If you do nothing else, take not of what Dav125, and others here have said. Keep a journal. Mark your usage. Draw a graph in a months time and see what happens. Constantly stock take. Stay vigilant. It's your life. Don't blow it!!!
Sorry if I come across preachy.. It's just that I wish I'd listened to this advice myself when it was given to me, before it was too late. If you read my profile bio you'll know what I'm talking about. :-(
Be strong. Be happy. Take care. :-)
I just finished reading your whole thread and I'm really glad I did because it opened up my eyes to what this drug has done to me, or what I have done while using it, over the past 8 years. Thats 8 years of my life by the way that I can never get. Most of the posts I read have educated me immensly about some of the tools I need to keep my sobriety, at your expense of course and don't take that the wrong way because thats not how I mean it. I just mean that the posts were directed to you. But I'm still learning as I'm still relatively new to being clean and reading all those posts have opened my eyes to what I need to do to keep moving forward.
I wish you all the best and I hope things work out for you but be very, very careful! When I started using this drug I did it casually for almost a YEAR and then the demon got its hooks into me, hard and fast. At the time I didn't realize what was happening or about to happen and like I said earlier, I lost 8 years of my life and everything that ever meant anything to me went with it.
Again, please be careful. Take Care of yourself and your wife and Good Luck....K.J.
I wish you all the best and I hope things work out for you but be very, very careful! When I started using this drug I did it casually for almost a YEAR and then the demon got its hooks into me, hard and fast. At the time I didn't realize what was happening or about to happen and like I said earlier, I lost 8 years of my life and everything that ever meant anything to me went with it.
Again, please be careful. Take Care of yourself and your wife and Good Luck....K.J.
Hello all. I thought I'd post an update as I'm now almost a month clean. I didn't take the recommended route and after some of you understandably chewed me out for it I decided to stop posting about it and just do it.
If any of you remember my story I was the one that was entrusted to dispense my wifes oxy's and I started taking them. I was forced to detox because I ran her prescription out early.
I never did go through any physical symptoms, I kept waiting but nothing ever happened so I'm grateful for that. I finally did fess up to my wife and to my surprise she was very understanding. Yes, I did agree to continue administering them for her and that's when I caught the wrath of quite a few here, that's also when I stopped posting.
I know it's only been a month but I can honestly say that there's no way I'm ever going to touch one of them again. I went through 6 months of lies and deceit and for some reason when it all came crashing down, I was spared from any consequences. I'm not one to take something like that for granted, I'm never going back there again.
Anyway, so there you have it. Just in case anyone was wondering I thought I'd let you know. Thanks to everyone for all of the comments and good luck to everyone battling their own demons, stick with it!
If any of you remember my story I was the one that was entrusted to dispense my wifes oxy's and I started taking them. I was forced to detox because I ran her prescription out early.
I never did go through any physical symptoms, I kept waiting but nothing ever happened so I'm grateful for that. I finally did fess up to my wife and to my surprise she was very understanding. Yes, I did agree to continue administering them for her and that's when I caught the wrath of quite a few here, that's also when I stopped posting.
I know it's only been a month but I can honestly say that there's no way I'm ever going to touch one of them again. I went through 6 months of lies and deceit and for some reason when it all came crashing down, I was spared from any consequences. I'm not one to take something like that for granted, I'm never going back there again.
Anyway, so there you have it. Just in case anyone was wondering I thought I'd let you know. Thanks to everyone for all of the comments and good luck to everyone battling their own demons, stick with it!
Because my husband is the only one working we really cant afford private insurance for all of us so i have pregnancy medicaid but it doesnt cover dental and the cheapest i can find for a dentist to pull my tooth is 495$ . I have an appt. to have it pulled march 4th thats why i dont want to refill the meds. but yea i have 3 beautiful babies and one on the way. I feel very fortunate for the family i have. i just finished college last summer and decided to finish my family first before going into a career. But thank you for all your advice it makes me feel better
Your dose was not high..consider urself lucky! Many dread quitting so much that they feel bad whether they should have or not. They have planned to feel bad..so they do
Stay on track and keep moving forward!
Stay on track and keep moving forward!
COMMUNITY LEADER
Please get ahold of your OB and tell him/her what is going on......We want you and the baby to be safe.
Cant the dentist do something to fix this problem?
Cant the dentist do something to fix this problem?
Talk with your OB about it..I believe a taper is recommended as what you go thru, the baby goes thru to some degree..I've seen mixed info on this subject..It would be best to get his/her guidence on this..So your 23 and a fourth child already? Wow,,You've got plenty of busy work for sure to keep you occupied for awhile :)
I am currently 20 wks pregnant with my 4th child. I was perscribed hydrocodone for pain because i have holes in my molars which cause my jaw and the whole side of my face to throb and it hurts so bad i cant take it. I just took my last one last night and i am starting to feel the symptoms of withdrawl. I can handle them but im afraid of what it might do to my baby.does anyone know if this is true.. ive been reading the withdrawl effects can hurt the baby more than the side effects of taking the medication can. I was only taking about 3 a day no more than that. I am not an addict. I do not abuse them either.( The bottle said 1-2 every 4hrs as needed). I do not want a new perscription, i want to stop taking them and just find a way to deal with my pain. again please do not judge me i dont judge you
Listen...you're a good guy and you're honest;to a point. But,man,I've got to tell you: YOU ARE LYING TO YOURSELF!
Your odds of success doing this "your way" are ZERO! There is no way that you'll control this. None! Believe me...we know what we're talking about!!
You should have talked to your wife last night. It was the perfect time. You didn't. Do you know why? It wasn't the guilt. It was your addict brain!!
Here's how I see this play out: There will be some pills missing from the count. "We must have miscounted". "I dropped a bunch and they rolled like greased lightening all over the garage floor". "I dropped some in the sink. I'm so sorry". Or...you'll take some out and replace them with pills like ASA or APAP which look similar. We know ALL the tricks!!
I'm not trying to beat you up here....( well actually I AM ) It's just that the BS is flying!!
You need to talk to your wife today!!! This morning!! Right now!! Anything short of that
is unacceptable. You THINK you're strong enough to NOT take any pills. I'm sorry, but you're not even strong enough to talk to the person who loves you the most...
Save yourself here...and re read what David wrote to you...listen to him!
xo
Your odds of success doing this "your way" are ZERO! There is no way that you'll control this. None! Believe me...we know what we're talking about!!
You should have talked to your wife last night. It was the perfect time. You didn't. Do you know why? It wasn't the guilt. It was your addict brain!!
Here's how I see this play out: There will be some pills missing from the count. "We must have miscounted". "I dropped a bunch and they rolled like greased lightening all over the garage floor". "I dropped some in the sink. I'm so sorry". Or...you'll take some out and replace them with pills like ASA or APAP which look similar. We know ALL the tricks!!
I'm not trying to beat you up here....( well actually I AM ) It's just that the BS is flying!!
You need to talk to your wife today!!! This morning!! Right now!! Anything short of that
is unacceptable. You THINK you're strong enough to NOT take any pills. I'm sorry, but you're not even strong enough to talk to the person who loves you the most...
Save yourself here...and re read what David wrote to you...listen to him!
xo
Odds of success in having them available are near to none. You've crossed the brain barrier of their hold. Yeah, didn't touch one today, maybe not one tommorrow, but maybe on the third it will be ok..Then a few more days and "great!" I went three days...So, I got control so another won't hurt..
Your approach won't work. You will only be able to keep your hands to yourself only so long and then you will rationalize its ok as long as I don't do them everyday. But a month from now, you will be taking them everyday again..Except you might find as the access runs short, you find yourself with horrible migraines, diarrehea, night swaet, aches, cramps restless legs all hitting at once and terrorize you for a week
..Your wife is the one with the medical need. I say give them to her and turn your back..Ask her to read some here prior though as to whats waiting at the end of this game of russian rouillet..Give the pills to someone else like a good friend of hers which will give her so much on any particular day..Or go ahead and enhance your curiousity in what the rest of the story is..Maybe your wife could get by with low dose hydrocodone? 25% less than what you have?
Your setting yourself up for failure on your part. You will eat them except this round instead of 2 or 3 a day, it will be 4 to 6. The 6 to 8 all happening within the next two months of your life..And then the pressure in your head will become constant and you will seek another to get it in check. Then you will find it didn't get it in check and then double the dose..
Stop the fixation now. You have zero reason to take them unlike us that have ruptured disc's, gone thru surgery, whatever...Actually,,"why are you even concerned at this point? There is no medical reason for you to need them, yet you "want " to keep them part of your life when you are at the easiest point to walk away....Who runs your mind btw? Have you asked yourself that question lately? Because I can say with certainty its not you and your values in control right now..Man! Wake up and do the right thing! Forget the pills period. They didn't come into your life as something you required and here you are creating the reason to make a requirement....I'm getting real disappointed with your thoughts and "guess" as how your going to make things work which with most people would be low on the totum pole, not number one which they seem to be for you now...
Sorry for sounding upset, but you are about to light a bonfire at your feet...Dav
Your approach won't work. You will only be able to keep your hands to yourself only so long and then you will rationalize its ok as long as I don't do them everyday. But a month from now, you will be taking them everyday again..Except you might find as the access runs short, you find yourself with horrible migraines, diarrehea, night swaet, aches, cramps restless legs all hitting at once and terrorize you for a week
..Your wife is the one with the medical need. I say give them to her and turn your back..Ask her to read some here prior though as to whats waiting at the end of this game of russian rouillet..Give the pills to someone else like a good friend of hers which will give her so much on any particular day..Or go ahead and enhance your curiousity in what the rest of the story is..Maybe your wife could get by with low dose hydrocodone? 25% less than what you have?
Your setting yourself up for failure on your part. You will eat them except this round instead of 2 or 3 a day, it will be 4 to 6. The 6 to 8 all happening within the next two months of your life..And then the pressure in your head will become constant and you will seek another to get it in check. Then you will find it didn't get it in check and then double the dose..
Stop the fixation now. You have zero reason to take them unlike us that have ruptured disc's, gone thru surgery, whatever...Actually,,"why are you even concerned at this point? There is no medical reason for you to need them, yet you "want " to keep them part of your life when you are at the easiest point to walk away....Who runs your mind btw? Have you asked yourself that question lately? Because I can say with certainty its not you and your values in control right now..Man! Wake up and do the right thing! Forget the pills period. They didn't come into your life as something you required and here you are creating the reason to make a requirement....I'm getting real disappointed with your thoughts and "guess" as how your going to make things work which with most people would be low on the totum pole, not number one which they seem to be for you now...
Sorry for sounding upset, but you are about to light a bonfire at your feet...Dav
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