yeah it does suck that doctors, hospitals, and social services have the authority to take a child away from its parent. it really, really does. however, if you've ever worked as a health care professional, you come to realize that hospitals, schools, and other institutions serve as a part of the "system" just by default. if a child is being abused, do you expect the parents that are abusing it to call social services??? go and hang in a hospital ER for a week and see what kinds of things people do to their children. are we as health care professionals just supposed to ignore it and hope it goes away?
we increasingly live in a closed society. people spend more time in their homes and out of society. this is the best child abuse detection system our society has come-up with. i wish it would be mainly educational (preventative), but it's not...it's tertiary.
addiction is a disease. i wish our health care system had a better plan for expectant addicted moms. until it does this is the best we can do. it sucks and i hate it, but until society is better educated, and addiction is destigmatized, this is how it will be. it sucks.
good luck keri - i'm pulling for ya, girl!!!! :)
I wish you would read my new post's instead of dwelling on what was said FRIDAY! Things are still going well.
NOT telling her doctor could put both her life and the life of her baby at risk...not to mention if she doesn't tell the doc...it will basically look like she was trying to conceal it vs try to actually address it and get help...do the right thing. THAT's when people get second chances....when they're honest.
And, while I have sympathy....I also feel very strongly that if a baby is harmed due to a mother's drug use b/c she didn't inform her doctor...then to ME that IS a form of child abuse/neglect....and I would want that child to be safe. That mother has a responsibility to the child by doing the right thing and telling her doc. Childrens services are there to protect children...is it always a perfect system? I'm sure it isn't...but this isn't exactly a real toughie. If a mom tells her doc....I'm sure there will be some post-partum social worker visits, and some aftercare...but that is a positive thing. Rather than hiding it and then trying to get the child back...much worse scenario.
Being totally honest with the doc is the way to go, period....for health reasons, not to mention legal ones.
First of all Keriberi don't let all of this talk upset you. I'm no rocket scientist, but from my experience with doctors and being dependant on pain killers. Unless it's an exceptional doctor they all freak out. Saying something now may be very damaging unless you feel you can really trust your OB/GYN.
Just read very carefully everything you sign when admitted to the hospital for delivery little momma. Don't give them any authority to do ANTYHING without your permission first.
I don't where the hospitals, doctors, social services ever got all this authority to just take kids away whenever they want.It is bull-****!
Happy delivery day!
Its does not have anything to do with knowing ones body. Its letting the doctor know you were using and when you stopped so any problems that may arise can be addressed .If she tells them then she wont have the risk of dss either .
So, she is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't.
I am for whatever you choose to do Keri. You know your body better than anyone on this forum.
Hugs
~Susan
Depending when she gives birth it could still show up even though she has stopped .If she has not told her doctor yes dss WILL BE CALLED
She has a current post you guys might want to read now.
But what if she continues to use, the blood test will show the drug in the baby's system. What happens then?
i feel like i'm treading on thin ice here as this is a very delicate subject, but since i used t be a hospital nursery social worker, i felt the need to put my two cents worth in:
if keriberi delivers early so soon after being clean, and the baby is in distress from withdrawal, the doctor will order a UA among other tests to rule-out exactly what is happening (withdrawal). the symptoms of withdrawal in infants are pretty easy to spot. if the doc suspects, orders the UA and it comes back positive, the hospital staff will be legally bound to make a referral to child protective services. so lets all pray she does not go into early labor.
this is not me being judgmental. it's just what happens in hospital nurseries. i am very happy she is getting clean and i hope mom and baby will have a long, healthy, drug-free life ahead of them :)
Bless your heart, and thank you for telling it like it is......awesome Post !!!!!
Luv,
Nauty.................
I am very happy that is she doing so well. I really am.
But let us not forget that she flatly refused to talk to her ob/gyn about this and that she is 4 weeks from delivery. If she goes into labor early from the stress of withdrawals or for any other reason her dr will not know what to look for and treatment for the infant could be delayed.
So for me, I just thnk that without being hooked up to a machine to regulate the baby's heartbeat and blood pressure, advice, medical advice, given from ANYONE, nurse, doctor, ANYONE, over the computer is not wise.
She might feel fine but unless the baby is being monitored and that's what ob/gyn's do in these situations (I know, I was there) she is going into this blindly and if by chance 4 weeks wasn't enough to get it out of her system and the baby is born with ANY symptoms of withdrawal, they CAN and probably WILL call child Protective Services and hen they find out that her ob/gyn did NOT prescribe them, she could be in trouble.
So none of these posts are anti-her getting clean, that's a wonderful thng and I DO applaud her for that... they're just genuinely concerned.
Again, CONGRATULATIONS and I wish you LOTS of luck and most of all ... LOVE.
you and your mental and physical state of being definitely affect your baby right now....and both states seem to be doing quite well....especially mental (which is HUGE!!!!)....so please stay positive and just keep up the awesome, wonderful job you're doing for you and your baby....really, it sounds like you're doing just fine and baby is lucky to have a mommy like you...concerned and wanting to do the right thing NOW, not later, even though now might be harder on you, too....again, keep up the awesome work....we're all pullling for you and wishing you and your baby the absolute best.....all my prayers and blessings are with you....kim
Congrats on making it! This is a step in the right direction...
You are defiantly doing the right thing for your baby and self. If you ever need to chat message me back! How are the wd's going?
Take care and keep going!
That is what i was meaning...you just have better words then me lol...I totally agree w you, i wasnt meaning u at all...
All I am saying is I would respectfully suggest all recommendations and treatment for the mother and her unborn child be provided by the OB/GYN whom she has been seeing for the duration of this pregnancy. I apologize if I think it is very risky to offer advise in such a delicate time, other than recommend continued candid dialog with the medical staff that has been there from the beginning of this pregnacy and has the complete history of her medical records.
Yes i know she was but there was some advice arguments is what i was refering too!
That is why she was referred to 1234betterlife in the first place. She is in good hands.
I will have to put my 2 cents in too...I really dont believe tho that on something like this we should be giving advice...yes we should give support but not advice unless you are a doctor or even a nurse knows more then we do.
I agree about naughty changing. It is good!
Since there are two threads, I will repeat what I said on the other post. PLEASE communicate with your doctor as honestly as you have here. I applaud your efforts for detox, however, I will not begin to assume that I have the medical knowledge of you, your body or your baby to make any remote recommendations. I am praying you are in constant communication with your doc and his staff. My thoughts are with you and your unborn child. Sincerely, Jeanette
Nauty....I am going to publicly give you props for your "actions" lately. I see that even though you have not always agreed and that you still speak your mind, you also are WAY more open to seeing others points as well!
I give you a lot of credit for that. I have seen it in a couple of posts today and I just wanted to say that to you!!
Thats what I was thinking too. I agree.