Should I take suboxine??

[kim221]

I have been taking vicodin for about 2 years now, it started off at only a couple a week and now it is around 8 a day, the past 2 weeks I have also been taking about 60mg of oxy a day too, which was a horrible idea but that was all i could get.  I am starting school again in a little over a week and need my withdrawls to be as quick as possible.  I don't want to be withdrawing still when I start classes again.  Would it be a good idea to take suboxine for my withdrawls?  I have not tried to quit at any point in the past, this is my first time.  The past couple days I have kind of given it an attempt, taking about 1-2 vics a day.  It has not been fun.  Starting tomorrow, i plan on taking nothing.  I have heard that suboxine is great, and then I hear that it is horrible as well.  Any advice on my situation would be greatly appreciated!!  Thanks!

[salsinator]

Hi Lisacolombo,  You have a great friend if she is willing to support you and stay with you like this.  My room mate and best friend did the same for me and continues to support me each and every day.  Check out the Thomas Recipe, there are some suppliments that you can get OTC to help the w/d process - the xanax will help too, but please be careful because that is addictive too.  Use it only as long as you need to for the detox and stop.  You can do this - I am glad that you are not going the suboxone route.  Don't get me wrong, suboxone definitely has it's place, but you are going to w/d one way or another and believe me, the oxy withdrawal will be easier and quicker.  Taper as low as you can and set your quit date - then go for it.  Keep posting, we will be here for both you and your friend through the whole process and after.  I am proud of you.

[lisacolombo]

Well I had my girlfriend read the postings and she is telling me that we are not going with the soboxane. I am not going back to the doctor to refill my script of OC’s, we are going to start and lower the dosage to one pill in the morning and that is it. Once I run out I will take some vacation time from work and just sweat it out. She sees it in me that I want to quit so she will stay with me. She read some of the post and fears I will become dependant on Soboxone and I think she is right. I am going to fill my script for Xanax so I can at least get some sleep. She has my meds and will start with the once a day on Monday. I would appreciate the feed back on other that have gone CT, what can I take to keep my energy up, what will help with the overall symptoms?

[kim221]

thanks for the advice everyone.. i just wanted some more information on them because someone recommended them.  I definitely do not plan on taking them and just prolonging this process...  I can't even begin to believe what a lot of you guys are going through, i mean I am only trying to kick a habit of 8 or so vics a day/ 60mg oxy.. I worked hard to keep it at that level the past 2 years though.. and I feel absolutely horrible the past couple days!  Keep up the good work to all of you!!!

[whitie]

good job salisnator !!

we have seen several different opinions on sub...... I use to be totally negative on it, still am overall because its nothing but a replacement narcotic opioid, that is controled by a money grubbing system.

but after hearing stories, it does have its time and place(heroin users,and 20-30 a day pill users) it saved lives ,so has methadone...........both are known for worse wd's from long term usage.  so the key is to get the right sub doc

If one gets the right sub doc ,that is aware of its heavy wd's from long term use, and puts the patient on a short term taper program, then it may work.

but without the same dedication and commitment that many have,when they quit without it....it wont work either !!

[salsinator]

Hi Lisa,  Suboxone is a partical opiate agonist and it does not produce a high like Methadone does.  It will treat the withdrawal very effectively and will also detox you from the OC.  A word of caution, if you choose to go the suboxone route, work with your doctor on taking the medication short term - it is much easier to stop the suboxone if you take it less than 21 days.  I took it for nearly 4 years and had to do a medically assisted detox to finally get clean.  I will say though that suboxone worked very well for me and it did save my life.  The one thing suboxone will do is help you deal with the drug seeking behavior.  Once I was ready to quit, I had not used in 4 years so after the detox, I did not have any trouble with craving or drug seeking.  I will be clean 100 days tomorrow - no drugs or alcohol of any kind.  I feel great.  I am happy to share more if you have questions, feel free to send me a private message if you like.

[lisacolombo]

I am also thinking about going the sub route for OC addition, do you still get the high off of them or does it just treat the WD? My only problem with quiting is the WD, I am done with getting high off the pill but when I stop CT I just can not function and sleep and just do not want to talk to anyone....

[salsinator]

Hi Kim,  I am in agreement with Ga Guy and the others here.  I took Suboxone for years after going through withdrawal several time from a heavy vicodin addicition and when I finally detoxed fromt he suboxone it was much much harder than the vicodin.  Suboxone is a very strong opiate and once you become addicted to that, it's very hard to taper and quit.  f you have a week before class starts - you have tapered low enough that you should be able to quit cold turkey and withdrawal in about 4 days.  There are some things you can do to help minimize the withdrawal effects - read the health pages at the top right of the page.  Best of luck.

[dominosarah]

There is no magic pill here....As others have said either taper or go ct and get some aftercare.  Your sobriety lies within you and you can do this!!!         sara

[TakingAction]

I'm not familiar either.  But listen to sickofthepills, you are not in so deep.  Why jump to another substance if you can manage by yourself?  Tough love here- but suck it up if u can and forge ahead.  I was taking MUCH more than you and went cold turkey after a binge that could have killed me.

I am two weeks deep and already feeling the fruits of this labor.  It gets ugly, then it gets better.  Take a stand and get well.

we are here for ya

Matt

[worried878]

NO

Why would u want to step up to a  stronger narcotic to stop a 60 mg oxy habit? What r u accomplishing?  If u r afraid of physical wds from ur dose, then u possibly have no idea what sub wd is like?  long term sub use and what most sub drs would start u at would out do ur habit now by a long shot.then u r stuck again worrying bout wds but on a more difficult drug to wd from

what is ur goal?  r u afraid of wd or do u think u can not maintain cleandom when u put down the oxy?   sub doesnt make u clean..u do....put those puppies down and seek aftercare..it would save u tons of money and grief..keep posting

[GA Guy]

It's not appropriate for a first time attempt at quitting. It's more for people who have tried to quit for years. Also, going on Sub with a 1-2 Vicodin a day habit like you're down to right now will just raise your tolerance levels. Just try ct or a taper..get some therapy..and stay away from the pills.