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So I got off Norco only to on to Tramadol is this bad?
Well Im fairly new here and have read enough to know that the people on here are real just like me. I began using vicodin 5/500 about 3 or 4 years ago due to gallstones and while their were complications with my surgery and pain after the surgery I found myself taking up to 9 or 10 pills a day. ,,,,,It caused such a strain on my marriage as I almost lost my husband to another woman because I was so into my addiction I totally forgot about his needs. I have always been honest with my husband about abusing the pills, he actually has degenerate joint disease and was perscribed vicodin as well. I would eat through all my pills 60 a month and all of what I could of his 120 a month of Norco. ......I started on Vicodin 5/500 and got on norco 10/325 as the vic's stopped working. I have known for the last year that I needed to stop and it wasn't untill recently ( a little over a month ago) that I have been able to quit the Norco's only with the help of Tramadol, I take about 3 pills a day and feel better......however and here it comes....the big BUT in everyones story....BUT Iast week I ran out of Tramadol and thought nothing of it untill it was bedtime. I have never experienced such uncomfortableness, legs wouldn't stop twitching, had to chain smoke and stayed awake till 5am. What havve I done switched one nightmare for another? ...How long will the leg twitches last if I stop taking Tram?.....
I just hope that from one addict to another someone will be able to make sence of my situation, what have I done?.....Thanks....
Sincerely Pomo
I just hope that from one addict to another someone will be able to make sence of my situation, what have I done?.....Thanks....
Sincerely Pomo
i have to say that I have a wonderful MD, seriously she is awesome, I am moving back to the states and that's where she is so I def. will be going to see her.
I don't have a lot of trust with therapist and doc's , they tend to want to send me to inpatient and I don't want to.
I swear the friends on here are better then any therapist I've ever met. I am going to have to find a great therapist. Not sure where to start though I have medical issues but what's consuming right now it the nightmares and sleep disorder. I am so affraid to go to sleep that I acctually stay up for 30 hours at a time, then I crash.
@Laurel~ what is CBT,,,, i so paranoind about starting on any new drug for fear of addiction. My doc said that the tram wasn't addictive , ya right.
From what Im hearing I need to go ahead and talk to my doctor and get a new therapist. My normal M.O. is that outta sight outta mind. I thought that te symptoms of the PTSD would go away by now but then I think about how long the abuse lasted and I think Im actually doing good for all I went through. It could be so much worse. Thank you for reminding me that I can do this "gently" . so comforting to hear those words ....
you have no idea what that means to me. The fact that their are people who care is amazing to me. everyone's support is beyond amazing. bbe blessed my friends!
I don't have a lot of trust with therapist and doc's , they tend to want to send me to inpatient and I don't want to.
I swear the friends on here are better then any therapist I've ever met. I am going to have to find a great therapist. Not sure where to start though I have medical issues but what's consuming right now it the nightmares and sleep disorder. I am so affraid to go to sleep that I acctually stay up for 30 hours at a time, then I crash.
@Laurel~ what is CBT,,,, i so paranoind about starting on any new drug for fear of addiction. My doc said that the tram wasn't addictive , ya right.
From what Im hearing I need to go ahead and talk to my doctor and get a new therapist. My normal M.O. is that outta sight outta mind. I thought that te symptoms of the PTSD would go away by now but then I think about how long the abuse lasted and I think Im actually doing good for all I went through. It could be so much worse. Thank you for reminding me that I can do this "gently" . so comforting to hear those words ....
you have no idea what that means to me. The fact that their are people who care is amazing to me. everyone's support is beyond amazing. bbe blessed my friends!
I would follow madtram's advices, Pomo.... if you are already suffering panick attacks, address those with therapy and maybe some anti anxiety meds... CBT is what helped me last year when i suffered with anxiety, it took a couple of months to start working but therapy is the best thing i could have done to address my anxiety....I also had to leave the forum for some months until i felt better so i can understand you here too...
Please don't be scared. You can do this in a gentle way with the right professional support. Can you talk to your md about starting a very slow taper with perhaps some supporting meds for the anxiety. Some people find that clonidine helps soothe the nerves during withdrawals.
I would focus on one thing at a time & not push yourself to deal with the PTSD until you are feeling emotionally stronger. Cognitive behaviour therapy can be effective for PTSD & would also help you to deal with your anxiety surrounding withdrawals.
There are many who have used a very slow taper from tramadol with minimal discomfort & you can too.
I would focus on one thing at a time & not push yourself to deal with the PTSD until you are feeling emotionally stronger. Cognitive behaviour therapy can be effective for PTSD & would also help you to deal with your anxiety surrounding withdrawals.
There are many who have used a very slow taper from tramadol with minimal discomfort & you can too.
Just quirious how was it that you got started in the first place?....there has been alot of freat support in this place but I have to be careful because I also have anxiety and when I was on here for like a few days alot It gave me a panic attack from worring so much. I know we have to take it one day at a time and I can't let the addiction consume me you know what I mean. I would love to hear more from you so message me.
hi pomolady i guess we have the same problem. i been addicted with tramadol for 8 years. i hated drugs , i hate to take aspirin anything. but i can't belive i been taking tramadol for so long and i'm so afraid to be with out. is the only drug i ever take.. i know i can doe it but very scare.. i did try to stop for 2 days oh my i feel like was going to die..
I forgot to ask....Jesus how are you doing with your WD.....hope you are still fighting the good fight and I pray that u Keep strong!
Soooo I just realized that due to my PTSD my addiction has grown so strong. I know I have to get therapy for that but am so afraid that I won't be able to deal with it that I will use even more. Or at least that's what my past has been, but then again I have to learn to do everything sober , Right? Ya....I just answered my own question, I think sometimes the fear is worse then the actual experience. ...How do you know when you are getting the right help? As far as the ccounselors?
And I am still using the trams daily , it's the norco I quit over a month ago. I thought I was doing good because I was told that the trams were NOT a narcotic and they weren't addictive....I get on here and recognize that all the addict here sound 'JUST LIKE ME" and with that said I know I will have a hard time getting off the trams .....
that's why I asked what did I do? Whatever the reason I traded one for the other the bottom line is I need to get all the pills, right? I know this may sound dumb but should I not drink right now. I only ask cause I have never had a problem with alcohol but being an addict I know I need to be careful, right?.....Thanks for the responce I so wish I would have found this site years ago, but am soooooo greatful to have it now. God speed.
And I am still using the trams daily , it's the norco I quit over a month ago. I thought I was doing good because I was told that the trams were NOT a narcotic and they weren't addictive....I get on here and recognize that all the addict here sound 'JUST LIKE ME" and with that said I know I will have a hard time getting off the trams .....
that's why I asked what did I do? Whatever the reason I traded one for the other the bottom line is I need to get all the pills, right? I know this may sound dumb but should I not drink right now. I only ask cause I have never had a problem with alcohol but being an addict I know I need to be careful, right?.....Thanks for the responce I so wish I would have found this site years ago, but am soooooo greatful to have it now. God speed.
Pomo.... i think that one of the things that make trams so dangerous when stopping cold turkey is that of the antidepressant part on it which is also what make trams to be harder...But you have not taken them for a long time and you are taking another antidepressant so for this part it would be sort of balanced hopefully so think that you can do it and be positive...
support from other addicts going through the same is like a lifesaver for us... but with time you may need also some professional help to deal with our addictive behaviour, it is easier with that help too, Pomo so just be open to all the possibilities , ok ? :)
good luck :)
support from other addicts going through the same is like a lifesaver for us... but with time you may need also some professional help to deal with our addictive behaviour, it is easier with that help too, Pomo so just be open to all the possibilities , ok ? :)
good luck :)
Thank you!!!!!....Im still being a coward right now. I haven't even begun to deal with my emotional well being much less get offf this freakin tramss.......
To Jesus~ thank you for being honest I can't say that Im happy to hear that the withdrals are harder off trams then vic's....seems crazy....I am happy that you have been able to get of Vicodin , keep me updated on how it is....How long were you on Trams for and how did you start taking them? Also can I ask how many milligrams and how often, Im not looking forward to this.
Storme your words are so right on ....you never said if you made it through last night w/ out using, just wondering if you don't want to say you don't have to .....sounds crazy but I feel like the help I get on here from other addicts is way better then the professionals...not that professionals are not helpful it;s just that this is my first experience being able to be open and honest , and I see others who have it worse and some that have it better.....it just helps. Please stay in touch storme, thanks....
Pomo
To Jesus~ thank you for being honest I can't say that Im happy to hear that the withdrals are harder off trams then vic's....seems crazy....I am happy that you have been able to get of Vicodin , keep me updated on how it is....How long were you on Trams for and how did you start taking them? Also can I ask how many milligrams and how often, Im not looking forward to this.
Storme your words are so right on ....you never said if you made it through last night w/ out using, just wondering if you don't want to say you don't have to .....sounds crazy but I feel like the help I get on here from other addicts is way better then the professionals...not that professionals are not helpful it;s just that this is my first experience being able to be open and honest , and I see others who have it worse and some that have it better.....it just helps. Please stay in touch storme, thanks....
Pomo
I am on day three off of Hydrocodone, but about three years ago I was addicted to Tramadol. The tramadol had alot less down feeling and I had alot less depression than on Vicodin and Norco, but OMgoodness the W/D were way worse. I actually stopped tramadol for about 4 days went into the hospital took vicodin and got hooked, now 3 years later I am 3 days clean off of Vicodin and the w/d are bad but way less horrible than tramadol. Just my experience.
As you told me earlier, Breathe and then breathe again. You can do this. Yes, you will be a different person off the drugs. You probably won't recognize her at first but she will be a pretty amazing person. I know this because before, when I was on the drugs, I hated myself. I barely knew who I was anymore. I was mean spirited and turned away from almost everyone I loved. Now, 56 days sober, I actually like the person I am shaping up to be. I am feeling good (great now after that major workout), losing weight and I am planning a HUGE career move in the next couple of months. That is something I always thought was beyond me because of the drugs but no more!
You need to do this for those kids if not just for yourself. They need a sober momma. They need to get back some of the time they have lost because you were too high. You are going to get through this. I'll be here for you any time you need to reach out to someone. I promise.
*hugs*
You need to do this for those kids if not just for yourself. They need a sober momma. They need to get back some of the time they have lost because you were too high. You are going to get through this. I'll be here for you any time you need to reach out to someone. I promise.
*hugs*
Thank you soooooo much.....I just looked at the MedHelp drug interactions and because I am taking setreline for depression , I shouldn't be taking tramadol.....
I wasn't aware of tramadol being used as an anti-depressent, now I know I have to do something, this ***** big time.....this was my last crutch , it's so hard to let go,
sounds strange but I am scarred to be sober , I have only been using for about 4 years and I think of the time my kids missed seing me sober , Will I be a different person?
Scary to think that I have so much affect on two living people. I think I was afraid to fail life and with the pills I could just blame all my downfalls on them. Now the hard part beginns.....
I have no idea when I will be able to get off of everything.....NO MORE!!!!!
Thank you for being clear about the remedy I am going to stock up now and hope for the best. Wish me strength. Thanks.
I wasn't aware of tramadol being used as an anti-depressent, now I know I have to do something, this ***** big time.....this was my last crutch , it's so hard to let go,
sounds strange but I am scarred to be sober , I have only been using for about 4 years and I think of the time my kids missed seing me sober , Will I be a different person?
Scary to think that I have so much affect on two living people. I think I was afraid to fail life and with the pills I could just blame all my downfalls on them. Now the hard part beginns.....
I have no idea when I will be able to get off of everything.....NO MORE!!!!!
Thank you for being clear about the remedy I am going to stock up now and hope for the best. Wish me strength. Thanks.
Hylands is the brand name for a natural remedy called "restful legs", which you can usually get at Walmart or similar. It also contains quinine but has nothing to do with tonic water which you can buy at the supermarket.
Hylands restful legs is a natural remedy for RLS..... tonic water is a drink
eat bananas and potasium rich food,...the epsom salts and full of magnesium and relieve your muscles, you add them to the water when taking a bath.
good luck :)
eat bananas and potasium rich food,...the epsom salts and full of magnesium and relieve your muscles, you add them to the water when taking a bath.
good luck :)
It's the quinine in the tonic water which is the base ingredient in the Hylands. Epsom salt baths are also a good way to directly absorb magnesium.
Hope one of these helps.
Hope one of these helps.
I have never even heard of tonic water but if it works.....when I am ready I know how to wean off the pills it's the RLS that I haven't made it through yet. I so appreciate the support it means everything to me to know that their are those who have gone through this and survived. I will update progress as I go, thank you again, it's been a God send that I found this site.
tram is a very nasty drug to come off as because its a double whammy it works like a pain reliever and an ssri anti depressant all at once .you should feel much better in about a week.Any exercise you can get helps. bananas and tonic water help for rls . hang in there ,
Soak in a very warm bath. I would suggest that you start there. Switching one for another isn't the answer. You are going to have wd with both, it is just up to you to decide which one you want to wd from. There is a ton of support her for you. It isn't easy but you can do it. The legs and anxiety were my hardest wd's. I hated that too. Oh, also try magnesium, calcium, and potassium. That helps as well.
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Being a synthetic opiate, great caution should be used if you are/were addicted to opiates. There are many here who have been severely hooked on Trams. I would contact avisg [This user is a Community Leader for this forum]
She has tons of experience about Trams. There are other members here too that can help you with Tramadol.
She has tons of experience about Trams. There are other members here too that can help you with Tramadol.
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If you have stayed off them since you ran out, you should be towards half way through withdrawals & expecting to feel better in another few days.
Tram withdrawal tends to be random with good patches & bad so if possible, it's a good idea to grab some sleep when you can.
Hylands restful legs & tonic water are good for the twitchy legs & benadryl or nytol, valerian & melatonin can help with sleep.
Keep posting & you will get lots of support with quitting & staying away from drugs that cause you problems.
Best wishes.