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Support weaning off of MAJOR ammounts of meds
10 Percs, 12 Vicoprofen, and 4 Soma a day. Need I saw more. By the end of this month I will be down to 7 Percs, NO Vicoprofen and 3 Soma. I am scared to death and ready for any and all support to help this be easier. I have three babies under 6 to care for. Please help!!!
I know this is not the pain management forum so I will watch what I say but here is what I am currently dealing with.
I am down to no Vicoprofen ( did that in the first two weeks, long time ago), 6 Percs, and 3 Soma. I was doing pretty good for a while until this last few weeks and now the pain is just too much to handle with the kids home for the summer and NO breaks. My husband has been traveling and major stress at work. My stress is through the roof. I have a grandmother here who is in hospice and one is Oklahoma City who is very ill. I could loose them both before Christmas. So I am traveling back and forth between here and OK to try to spend time with both. All with little to no help with the kids. I have little to no time to get into the doctor which leads to my PROBLEM NOW.,
I have a script written out to be filled on the 18th but I fly out that morning. I called the office and they OK'd a early fill by one day. Great, then I called and told them I just wanted to update how bad my pain was. The nurse asked me if she could ask the doc to give me a new script for 7 a day instead of 6 a day Percacet. I said yah you can ask. Kinda saw a bit of relief on the horizon but then BAM no she wasn't comfortable doing it without me coming in. So I allready have an appointment on the 1st of July with my original doc, the one that I asked to wean me completely. Now I have a refill appointment on Monday before the script is to be filled at all. I am hoping she will see my issue as I will have to bring all three kids with me to the appointment. But there is a chance she will say I am pulling the one I allready wrote and cut me more. I am scared. I don't know if I should keep my appointment on the 1st of July and just fill the 6 a day and grin and bear it through my trip out to see my grandma or if I should go in and see my other doc on Monday and hope she will see and understand that I still want to wean off but this summer and everything going on is just not the time and the pain is not what I can handle. She may give me a script for before my trip and write one for the next month for either 6 or 7 OR she could go the other way and pull them or just give me the same 6 which would be a waste of my time, copay and driving all three kids accross town and making them sit and wait forever to see the doctor for nothing.
WHAT SHOULD I DO? I am open to all opinions. You have all been here.
I am down to no Vicoprofen ( did that in the first two weeks, long time ago), 6 Percs, and 3 Soma. I was doing pretty good for a while until this last few weeks and now the pain is just too much to handle with the kids home for the summer and NO breaks. My husband has been traveling and major stress at work. My stress is through the roof. I have a grandmother here who is in hospice and one is Oklahoma City who is very ill. I could loose them both before Christmas. So I am traveling back and forth between here and OK to try to spend time with both. All with little to no help with the kids. I have little to no time to get into the doctor which leads to my PROBLEM NOW.,
I have a script written out to be filled on the 18th but I fly out that morning. I called the office and they OK'd a early fill by one day. Great, then I called and told them I just wanted to update how bad my pain was. The nurse asked me if she could ask the doc to give me a new script for 7 a day instead of 6 a day Percacet. I said yah you can ask. Kinda saw a bit of relief on the horizon but then BAM no she wasn't comfortable doing it without me coming in. So I allready have an appointment on the 1st of July with my original doc, the one that I asked to wean me completely. Now I have a refill appointment on Monday before the script is to be filled at all. I am hoping she will see my issue as I will have to bring all three kids with me to the appointment. But there is a chance she will say I am pulling the one I allready wrote and cut me more. I am scared. I don't know if I should keep my appointment on the 1st of July and just fill the 6 a day and grin and bear it through my trip out to see my grandma or if I should go in and see my other doc on Monday and hope she will see and understand that I still want to wean off but this summer and everything going on is just not the time and the pain is not what I can handle. She may give me a script for before my trip and write one for the next month for either 6 or 7 OR she could go the other way and pull them or just give me the same 6 which would be a waste of my time, copay and driving all three kids accross town and making them sit and wait forever to see the doctor for nothing.
WHAT SHOULD I DO? I am open to all opinions. You have all been here.
I know it scary but you might find out its not as bad as you think really a week between drops is normally enough time between .As for the tramadol it was my DOC so I know the WD's are bad the sooner you can get off it the better .I can understand why they are trying to put you on the longer lasting meds .I know you don't want to but with some the chance of dependency is not as bad .Of course that will not keep you from physical dependence .Hang in there keep on posting .
Thank you for your concern. I was also very concerned when they started me on it. BUT they game me the choice of that or blood pressure medicine. When I took the BPM it made me really sick and I was unable to care for my kids (clonidine)
I have been on tramadol before. The last time I weaned off Percs my doc (different doc) had me go cold turkey off percacet onto tramadol and then after a couple months moved me from the tramadol to 2 davecet and 2 Soma a day and then down to nothing. Though I never made it to nothing =( I am worried about the tramadol because I did have bad withdrawls from it the last time but either way I am going to have withdrawls. Both the percacet and the tramadol are going to cause me withdrawl. My docs plan is to wean me from the short term onto long acting meds so I don't know how to fight them on this. I hate long term because my body becomes dependent round the clock but what do I do? I tried not taking the tramadol one night last week after taking it for a couple weeks straight and I felt OK. So maybe I will ask them to wean me to 100mg of tramadol on my next visit and see if that works for me and then down to no tramadol. At this point if it helps me to get off the Percacet i think it is worth it though.
What is really bothing me this week and where I need support is that I see my doc on Thursday and she is going to move my scripts down again and body is NOT ready. I didn't wean down to the 6 a day for a while like I was suppose to so to move to 4 or 5 a day this week is really going to be hard. I want to ask them to give me another month on the 6 a day but if i do that it just prolongs me weaning off and she will most likely not do it anyway. I am not on a really high dose of meds anymore. Not as high as it was and I feel like I am not in danger at this ammount but my pain is under control. It is all so hard!!!
I have been on tramadol before. The last time I weaned off Percs my doc (different doc) had me go cold turkey off percacet onto tramadol and then after a couple months moved me from the tramadol to 2 davecet and 2 Soma a day and then down to nothing. Though I never made it to nothing =( I am worried about the tramadol because I did have bad withdrawls from it the last time but either way I am going to have withdrawls. Both the percacet and the tramadol are going to cause me withdrawl. My docs plan is to wean me from the short term onto long acting meds so I don't know how to fight them on this. I hate long term because my body becomes dependent round the clock but what do I do? I tried not taking the tramadol one night last week after taking it for a couple weeks straight and I felt OK. So maybe I will ask them to wean me to 100mg of tramadol on my next visit and see if that works for me and then down to no tramadol. At this point if it helps me to get off the Percacet i think it is worth it though.
What is really bothing me this week and where I need support is that I see my doc on Thursday and she is going to move my scripts down again and body is NOT ready. I didn't wean down to the 6 a day for a while like I was suppose to so to move to 4 or 5 a day this week is really going to be hard. I want to ask them to give me another month on the 6 a day but if i do that it just prolongs me weaning off and she will most likely not do it anyway. I am not on a really high dose of meds anymore. Not as high as it was and I feel like I am not in danger at this ammount but my pain is under control. It is all so hard!!!
She is a pain management patient .As Vicki say tramadol is very addicting so plz be careful.I know you need meds but plz be very aware what you are taking and the possibilities
Oh dear...PLEASE read up on the Tramadol... it's just not a good "go to" choice. Not your fault at all...so may have had trouble with this med. It's addicting and has an added antidepressant. It's a bear to detox from and cannot be stopped cold! There are other meds that would help the B/P spike. Maybe you can re-visit this with your doctor. I
hope so...
Vicki
hope so...
Vicki
Well just thought I would jump on and leave a little update. I am now down to 6 Percs a day 3 Soma and 1 Valium. They also started me on 200mg time release Tramadol at night so I would not wake up with my blood pressure so high from the withdrawls. I will be dropping another Perc next week after my doctor visit. I feel in no way ready to go to five as my pain has been really bad but that is what I need to do to keep moving in the right direction. It has gotten much easier overall. I feel like I am on safe ammounts now for the most part and doing what I need to to get off. Last time I saw my doctor she said once they got me off all the short acting medication they would start a time release at a higher dose. I don't see this working as I hate the idea and Oxycotin is what they always push at me and it doesn't work for me.
Did you see it then? I didn't mean for it to come accross that way, I was only looking for help so I could start eating and gaining weight again. Anyway, I will stay here and just be very careful what I post here. Might hang out over there too. I found so much support here and I think I gave a lot too. =( I'll check in tommorrow.
I know I am sorry that happened but you are very welcome here. I dont think she was aware that u have issues digesting things plz dont let one post chase you away .Ifyou want to be here ..
If you are more comfortable on the pain management forum that ok too ..I just want to let you know you are more then welcome here
If you are more comfortable on the pain management forum that ok too ..I just want to let you know you are more then welcome here
I put a posting up asking about taking meds on an empty stomach and someone moved my post and said that "people on this forum are trying to get off meds not try to make them work better".
I am really confused I just read some of your posts saying your an addict so why would u dont be welcome here
jen whats going on you are more then welcome here many of us are cronic pain suffers that go off our meds
I am switching forums because I think I upset someone here with a question. (my post was moved)
Just wanted to tell all of you thank you so much for all your support. I will check back from time to time.
Good luck to all of you!
Just wanted to tell all of you thank you so much for all your support. I will check back from time to time.
Good luck to all of you!
Yes I did tell him and he is not dumb. He see's me and asks me what I am taking and when. I feel like it helps to be able to tell him at night "I only took one vicoprofen today". He is proud of me but we have not had any long conversations about it. I think he just wants me to get better. I remind him not to expect the worst out of me or the old me because I am changing in a lot of ways right now. If he can expect me to get off and expect me to get better with handling life than I can!
I always took as perscribed. Took at the most 2 Percs, 1 Vico, and 1 Soma at a time. I never took more than one Soma at a time because they scare me.
Thanks so much for posting. You guys are getting me through this. I have a doc visit on the 20th. I am nervous for what is next for weaning.
I always took as perscribed. Took at the most 2 Percs, 1 Vico, and 1 Soma at a time. I never took more than one Soma at a time because they scare me.
Thanks so much for posting. You guys are getting me through this. I have a doc visit on the 20th. I am nervous for what is next for weaning.
your doing awesome! Did you ever come clean completely to your spouse?
at one point I could take 30 soma a day. 8 at a time. my stepdad OD'd and died 2 years ago on soma and darvon. I was also on Norco and quit cold turkey 8 days ago, on bad pain days I could take 4 at a time every 4 hrs. not only do I feel better but my pain is GONE. it's so crazy I almost can't believe it.
my husband said it perfectly when he said he didn't love the person i'd become while on the meds. When my mom asked if he still loved me he said he loved the me that wasn't on meds......now that I'm clean even though it's only just past a week for the norco and about 41 days for the soma (and technically 8 days from ambien) he and I are getting along alot better. but I had to come clean to him and tell him how much I was actually taking.
at one point I could take 30 soma a day. 8 at a time. my stepdad OD'd and died 2 years ago on soma and darvon. I was also on Norco and quit cold turkey 8 days ago, on bad pain days I could take 4 at a time every 4 hrs. not only do I feel better but my pain is GONE. it's so crazy I almost can't believe it.
my husband said it perfectly when he said he didn't love the person i'd become while on the meds. When my mom asked if he still loved me he said he loved the me that wasn't on meds......now that I'm clean even though it's only just past a week for the norco and about 41 days for the soma (and technically 8 days from ambien) he and I are getting along alot better. but I had to come clean to him and tell him how much I was actually taking.
Made it down to 1 vocoprofen 7 Percs and 3 soma and doing great. Starting to feel like myself again. Or someone that is a much better person than I have been the last couple years.
On day seven and it is just getting harder!!! I will not give up, not that I have that choice anyway. I am still at 7 Percs, 6 Vicoprofen, and 3 Soma. Today my anxiety was so bad that I was screaming at my children. I hate myself for that. I am a bit better this afternoon but my husband left town today and will be gone till Wednesday. I go into surgery on Thursday which is NOT going to help things. I need as much support as I can get here today. Please help!
UHHGGGGG having a hard time tonight again. Why are nights so bad. Oh yah cause the pills are gone. Maybe I should have just gone cold turkey. Really hard not to take them when I have 300 pills upstairs. But I won't? Took 8 Percs, 6 Vicaprofen, and 3 Soma today. Can I make it? Need some support!!!
Well I am on day four and wow what a ride. It is all good. I feel better about what direction I am going in now. I also feel a bit more alive than I have in a few years and most of all I am filled with regret for all the memories I feel like I have lost over the last year to three years. It was really after I had my third baby that the pain was unbearable and I got into this cycle.
So down now to 7 Percs, 6 Vicoprofen, 3 Soma a day. So I went from 26 to 16 pills a day to start. I am making it through by taking a lot of vitimans, B's, Cal-Mag-Zink, and Redbull helps for some reason. Honestly outside of the habit of the pills and the pain that I have it has not been too bad so far.
My plan is to cut by two more vicoprofen in the next couple days. I may wait until Monday just to that I am not too sick on Easter with my kids. My kids will be back in school then too. At least two of the three. Then I can nap in the afternoon if needed.
I feel like I am at a safer level but definitly not a safe amount still. When I journal at night I realize how much time I feel like I have lost and how high the meds still are! All and all I think I can wean. Not get too sick to take care of my kids. Although does anyone know. Will it get much worse when I start cutting completely? Like when I cut the vicoprofen completely?
So down now to 7 Percs, 6 Vicoprofen, 3 Soma a day. So I went from 26 to 16 pills a day to start. I am making it through by taking a lot of vitimans, B's, Cal-Mag-Zink, and Redbull helps for some reason. Honestly outside of the habit of the pills and the pain that I have it has not been too bad so far.
My plan is to cut by two more vicoprofen in the next couple days. I may wait until Monday just to that I am not too sick on Easter with my kids. My kids will be back in school then too. At least two of the three. Then I can nap in the afternoon if needed.
I feel like I am at a safer level but definitly not a safe amount still. When I journal at night I realize how much time I feel like I have lost and how high the meds still are! All and all I think I can wean. Not get too sick to take care of my kids. Although does anyone know. Will it get much worse when I start cutting completely? Like when I cut the vicoprofen completely?
Rachel,
Thank you so much for your post. You brought tears to my eyes. Not hard to do today I guess but yes we have to do it for the babies, they do need us. I am so sorry for your situation. So sorry you lost your dad. I know exactly how you feel and I am sure in some strange way the meds made it easier to deal with even though you knew deap down that is was not the right thing to do. It is so hard. Take care and please keep in touch
Thank you so much for your post. You brought tears to my eyes. Not hard to do today I guess but yes we have to do it for the babies, they do need us. I am so sorry for your situation. So sorry you lost your dad. I know exactly how you feel and I am sure in some strange way the meds made it easier to deal with even though you knew deap down that is was not the right thing to do. It is so hard. Take care and please keep in touch
Just wanted to write as a fellow mom. I have a 3 year old baby girl and can't believe I let this happen. My dad died of an overdose 3 years ago and I can't imagine I've done this to myself. Be strong and we all will get through this...our babies need us!
Rachel
Rachel
ok...just know that I went the "under cover" route and wish I had just told my wife the entire truth. By my last detox...she could have cared less (that was after about 10 relapses and countless underselling of how much I was doing)...and I had to do it alone. Try to think of it from his point of view. We addicts always think of ourselves...and think it is best...but more than not...whatever is opposite of what you think now, may be best.
Of course I do not know your hubby...so in the end, you need to do what's best given the circumstances.
There are WONDERFUL people here...truly amazing and they helped me tremendously during weaning, relapses, detox...and now recovery...
Of course I do not know your hubby...so in the end, you need to do what's best given the circumstances.
There are WONDERFUL people here...truly amazing and they helped me tremendously during weaning, relapses, detox...and now recovery...
I told him what my scrip was for but not how much of it I was taking that is why he doesn't understand. The last thing I need is him furious with me. I need his help and he is willing to help me know so once I get past most of my weaning i will tell him how much I was taking on my most painful days. The pain is bad bad this week and I am having surgery next week so that should prove to be fun.
I will be checking in here. As of now it is the only support I have =(
I will be checking in here. As of now it is the only support I have =(
Well, the first thing you need to do is tell your husband the truth. It is the only way he can help you...and you will need help. Secondly, I would go to your Dr. or another to get a second opinion. You will make it through this...but you need to fight for it.
Keep coming back here...great folks willing to pull people through...
~ Free
Keep coming back here...great folks willing to pull people through...
~ Free
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