Hi and welcome to the forum....first off I am not a fan of sub or methadone it is over prescribed these days for people with low or moderate habits......if you compare the detox from these drugs you will find them much more difficult to stop....with that said I do believe there is a place for them...if your slamming a needle in your arm or eating pills like M AND M's it can truly be a life saver....it will put your addiction on hold and give you time to work on the problem's that have got you into this in the first place I always recamend the N/A progam it is free the meetings are only a hour long and it will help you fix the train wreck your life has become in active addiction both sub and methadone in conjunction with a good aftercare progam is defiantly a way to treat this disease that has a very high success rate without it your odds are less then 10% if you have questions please feel free to ask.......Gnarly
Yeah just ignore all those whiners who need suboxone, methadone or subutex to get off opiates. Once those meds came out they make heroin, oxy's etc different now and all you have to do is " pull yourself up by your bootstrap's and man up". Try it and see how it works out for ya. Keep in mind the ones who go crying to a doctor with that "it's going to kill me, I cannot stop on my own" are just weak and looking for another high.
Others, including myself have experienced different results than you. It can be dangerous to expect everyone else will have the same results you did. You seem to be very angry. Some counseling may be helpful to you.
SUBS AND METHADONE ARE FN GARBAGE. HANDS DOWN NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. ESPECIALLY METHADONE. IT AMAZES ME THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL DEBATING THE "DOES METHADONE REALLY ROT YOUR TEETH AND BONES" ARGUMENT. THE ANSWER IS YES IT DOES. IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBT JUST VISIT A METHADONE CLINIC HERE IN CHICAGO AND SEE IT FOR YOURSELF. THESE PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY FALLING APART FROM THE INSIDE OUT. YOUNG PEOPLE TO WHO WERE PERFECTLY FIT AND FINE TO BEGIN WITH WHEN THEY ENTERED THE CLINIC WITH NO DENTAL ISSUES. THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THEIR LATE TWENTIES AND EARLY 30's IN WHEEL CHAIRS AND HUNCHED OVER WITH WALKERS
SUBS AND METHADONE ARE FN GARBAGE. HANDS DOWN NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. ESPECIALLY METHADONE. IT AMAZES ME THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL DEBATING THE "DOES METHADONE REALLY ROT YOUR TEETH AND BONES" ARGUMENT. THE ANSWER IS YES IT DOES. IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBT JUST VISIT A METHADONE CLINIC HERE IN CHICAGO AND SEE IT FOR YOURSELF. THESE PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY FALLING APART FROM THE INSIDE OUT. YOUNG PEOPLE TO WHO WERE PERFECTLY FIT AND FINE TO BEGIN WITH WHEN THEY ENTERED THE CLINIC WITH NO DENTAL ISSUES. THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THEIR LATE TWENTIES AND EARLY 30's IN WHEEL CHAIRS AND HUNCHED OVER WITH WALKERS FOR WITH HALF THERE TEETH GONE. I WAS ON METHADONE FOR 14 YEARS. I ALSO WATCHED MANY PEOPLE DIE SIMPLY FROM TAKING THERE PRESCRIBED DOSE. THEY JUST GO TO SLEEP AND DON'T WAKE UP. ALSO, HEROIN AND OXY WITHDRAWAL IS A DAY AT DISNEYLAND COMPARED TO GETTING OFF METHADONE. I AM 36 YEARS OLD AND ON CRUTCHES FROM METHADONE WD AND YES I TAPERED SLOWLY. THAT CRAP DID SOMETHING TO MY BONES AND JOINTS. THE "DRY MOUTH" THEORY FOR THE TOOTH DECAY IS A LOAD OF CRAP TO. IN MY 14 YEARS ON METHADONE I NEVER EXPERIENCED OR EVER HEARD OF ANYONE COMPLAINING OF HAVING A DRY MOUTH ON METHADONE. METHADONE ALSO HAS PSYCHOACTIVE PROPERTIES THAT DRIVE YOU NUTS OVER TIME. THINKING YOU CAN CONTROL DRUG ADDICTION USING HARDCORE DRUGS IS THE ULTIMATE DECEPTION PERPETRATED BY GREEDY DOCTORS AND BELIEVED BY DESPERATE ADDICTS LOOKING FOR AN EASY WAY OUT. WHEN IT COMES TO SUBS AND METHADONE PLEASE RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!
-FORMER METHADONE ADDICT OF 14 YEARS
Everyone is different. I've used subs with success. On for 2 years. Tapered over 6 months, been clean for 7 months with little to no cravings. Addiction is a complicated disease. I usually recommend against using subs as I think it should be used as a last resort. But it does have its place for some users. It has clearly saved some lives. I also take responsibility for my actions. Nobody forced me to abuse opiates and nobody forced me to use subs. One of the best things an addict can do for themselves is stop blaming everyone else for their problems. There's work to do and you are the one who has to do it.