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THIS IS NO JOKE: If you're on Subutex, Methadone or Suboxone, GET OFF NOW!!!!!!!!

how come no doctors really know what the long term side effects and the many actual DAMAGEs to the body subutex does?? I stayed on it for about 10 years and it was the most HORRIFIC detox that I almost died. I encourage EVERYONE to (if you're already on it)-GET OFF OF IT, or you're just gonna make the detox harder and harder with time...and if you're thinking about getting PUT on it, THINK AGAIN!!!!! I would LOVE to go around EDUCATING DOCTORS about how HORRIBLE this medication is. I am about to face the dentist in an hour and am MORTIFIED to do so because I have METH-MOUTH. (funny thing is, I NEVER DID METH!!). It's ALL FROM SUBUTEX and how it just sits in your bones and builds up over time and seems to EAT away your bone marrow and rapes your body of calcium. And the refuse of medication that just sits rotting your bones makes a later "appearance" in the show whenever it is you decide to detox. That's when it comes PURGING out of every single pore of your body as well as through your TEETH!! (just like the bones in your body). It has been FOUR MONTHS and my body STILL aches UNIMAGINABLY, I am in a constant state of Incredibly INTENSE anxiety, frustration and impatience. I don't wanna EVER get out of bed and face the world, even though I Must...Feels like groundhog day because it never changes. I wake up everyday in intense agony. And all over my body my skin has broken out in "PLAGUE-like" Acne-some places CYSTIC. (my body is detoxifying from the outside in) I don't WANNA leave my house because I feel like a monster. like I'm CURSED. This medication is THE DEVIL. It NEVER WANTS U OFF OF IT, it grabs ahold of your SOUL and never EVER lets go. (until you get FORCED to(the law/jail)or you just get so SICK of taking a godamm PILL every morning just to feel like the rest of the human race does when they wake up. It is hell on Earth, and you are absolutely INSANE if you stay on this med after reading this!!! THIS IS NO JOKE!!!! Email me if you want me to GO ON even!! ***@****
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Hi and welcome to the forum....first off I am not a fan of sub or methadone  it is over prescribed these days for people with low or moderate habits......if you compare the detox from these drugs you will find them much more difficult to stop....with that said I do believe there is a place for them...if your slamming a needle in your arm or eating pills like M AND M's it can truly be a life saver....it will put your addiction on hold and give you time to work on the problem's that have got you into this in the first place  I always recamend the N/A progam it is free the meetings are only a hour long and it will help you fix the train wreck your life has become in active addiction  both sub and methadone in conjunction with a good aftercare progam is defiantly a way to treat this disease that has a very high success rate  without it your odds are less then 10%  if you have questions please feel free to ask.......Gnarly
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Yeah just ignore all those whiners who need suboxone, methadone or subutex to get off opiates. Once those meds came out they make heroin, oxy's etc different now and all you have to do is " pull yourself up by your bootstrap's and man up". Try it and see how it works out for ya. Keep in mind the ones who go crying to a doctor with that "it's going to kill me, I cannot stop on my own" are just weak and looking for another high.
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Others, including myself have experienced different results than you.  It can be dangerous to expect everyone else will have the same results you did.  You seem to be very angry.  Some counseling may be helpful to you.
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   SUBS AND METHADONE ARE FN GARBAGE.  HANDS DOWN NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.  ESPECIALLY METHADONE.  IT AMAZES ME THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL DEBATING THE "DOES METHADONE REALLY ROT YOUR TEETH AND BONES" ARGUMENT.  THE ANSWER IS YES IT DOES.  IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBT JUST VISIT A METHADONE CLINIC HERE IN CHICAGO AND SEE IT FOR YOURSELF.  THESE PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY FALLING APART FROM THE INSIDE OUT.  YOUNG PEOPLE TO WHO WERE PERFECTLY FIT AND FINE TO BEGIN WITH WHEN THEY ENTERED THE CLINIC WITH NO DENTAL ISSUES.  THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THEIR LATE TWENTIES AND EARLY 30's IN WHEEL CHAIRS AND HUNCHED OVER WITH WALKERS  
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   SUBS AND METHADONE ARE FN GARBAGE.  HANDS DOWN NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.  ESPECIALLY METHADONE.  IT AMAZES ME THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL DEBATING THE "DOES METHADONE REALLY ROT YOUR TEETH AND BONES" ARGUMENT.  THE ANSWER IS YES IT DOES.  IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBT JUST VISIT A METHADONE CLINIC HERE IN CHICAGO AND SEE IT FOR YOURSELF.  THESE PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY FALLING APART FROM THE INSIDE OUT.  YOUNG PEOPLE TO WHO WERE PERFECTLY FIT AND FINE TO BEGIN WITH WHEN THEY ENTERED THE CLINIC WITH NO DENTAL ISSUES.  THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THEIR LATE TWENTIES AND EARLY 30's IN WHEEL CHAIRS AND HUNCHED OVER WITH WALKERS FOR WITH HALF THERE TEETH GONE.  I WAS ON METHADONE FOR 14 YEARS.  I ALSO WATCHED MANY PEOPLE DIE SIMPLY FROM TAKING THERE PRESCRIBED DOSE.  THEY JUST GO TO SLEEP AND DON'T WAKE UP.  ALSO, HEROIN AND OXY WITHDRAWAL IS A DAY AT DISNEYLAND COMPARED TO GETTING OFF METHADONE.  I AM 36 YEARS OLD AND ON CRUTCHES FROM METHADONE WD AND YES I TAPERED SLOWLY.  THAT CRAP DID SOMETHING TO MY BONES AND JOINTS.  THE "DRY MOUTH" THEORY FOR THE TOOTH DECAY IS A LOAD OF CRAP TO.  IN MY 14 YEARS ON METHADONE I NEVER EXPERIENCED OR EVER HEARD OF ANYONE COMPLAINING OF HAVING A DRY MOUTH ON METHADONE.  METHADONE ALSO HAS PSYCHOACTIVE PROPERTIES THAT DRIVE YOU NUTS OVER TIME.  THINKING YOU CAN CONTROL DRUG ADDICTION USING HARDCORE DRUGS IS THE ULTIMATE DECEPTION PERPETRATED BY GREEDY DOCTORS AND BELIEVED BY DESPERATE ADDICTS LOOKING FOR AN EASY WAY OUT.  WHEN IT COMES TO SUBS AND METHADONE PLEASE RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!  

  -FORMER METHADONE ADDICT OF 14 YEARS
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Everyone is different.  I've used subs with success.  On for 2 years.  Tapered over 6 months, been clean for 7 months with little to no cravings.  Addiction is a complicated disease.  I usually recommend against using subs as I think it should be used as a last resort.  But it does have its place for some users.  It has clearly saved some lives.  I also take responsibility for my actions.  Nobody forced me to abuse opiates and nobody forced me to use subs.  One of the best things an addict can do for themselves is stop blaming everyone else for their problems.  There's work to do and you are the one who has to do it.
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