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The difference between 30 mg methadone and 30 is unbelievable!

You all know my story-norco addiction-started methadone clinic cause i was desperate during withdrawels last May...up to 75-now trying to quit and down to 35 mg-30 too much and went back up to 35. Trying now to go doqn 5 mg  every 2 weeks now with ur advice... my cleaning nic only deals in 5 incriments..... gotta get free!! I teach.... so maybe summer better to get diwn below 20. It helps to post here..
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I don't think I would wait til summer. That would be 6 more months of methadone. When you were on norcos they were doctor prescribed? We have had people switch from methadone back to a short acting opiate such as norco to taper down. Another 6 months of methadone will just prolong it.
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I'm guessing treatment facilities have changed in the past 25 years LOL, but I don't think the program/process has though. In long term treatment "30 days or more" is to get the person off using any drugs " crutch" within 7 to 14 days. I'm wondering how 30mg of methadone is more beneficial then 30mg of hydrocodone??? I've talked with alot of people and many have said they wish they would have taken "CT hydrocodone WD" instead of the longer lasting WD from methadone.
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Something else to consider here, 10 -15mg of methadone is equivalent to 30mg of hydrocodone. I hate to say but you may actually be going backwards on dose amounts plus have a harder time with WD as well??? I hope not. Godspeed man
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I was totally against clinics after i found out what i had been put on , i was not told anything before taking the methadone, they said this will stop your wds and help you . well in the long run they were correct and wrong at the same time. yes it stopped the wds , yes it stopped the cravings, but what i didnt realize is that i just switched a drug of choice to a harder drug.
The goal from what i understand is stablize the patient so that they can get a grip on what is going on , taking it once a day instead of constant searching fro the high, but the HUGE drawl back is that its harder to come off of. I believe it should only be given to the most hardcore addict , i was only using one oc a day , and only had been taking pills for about 6 months. there needs to be more info given out at these clinics , but its not that way. I try to tell everyone , if you can just make it thru the pain pill wds you ll be better off in the long run, cause your just prolonging your wds.
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I've been doing whatever pain pills I can get for the past 8 years daily and the last time I took 22 hydro 10's in 8 hours and realized I'd had enough. I found Suboxone and not realizing wth it was I did 4mg and it made me sick. After researching what the hell it i taking I immediately dropped down to 2mg and now 1mg and cutting that in half tomorrow morning. I figured doing a tapering guide that shows how much & when on a daily basis. I am exactly on schedule. Just over 2 weeks now and should be finishing up next week. Methadone & Suboxone are not something that should be taken for any length of time and they are good tools in helping curb the major WDs if used correctly. Unfortunately, many I've seen go to methadone clincs trying to get the same high as pills and end up doing 2 to 3×'s their original amount and doing it for years and thinking thier accomplishing something and being straight just because it's a clinic & their not buying of the streets.
I have to admit, I'm having muscle aches & headaches after dropping so quickly from 200+mg a day to now 30mg and dropping again but I know it's well worth it. I had 15 years soberity and choose my path again, so my saying I'm DONE means I'm done! I few days of the flu compared to what I've already been through and would continue to do is well worth it! Just in 2 weeks, the black circles and baggy eyes are gone, my stomach/liver isn't as swollen and hell I just feel better in general! Plus I haven't spent $400 to $500 in the last 2 weeks! Yay
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Methadone & Suboxone definitely have their place in regards to helping on the road to recovery. Unfortunately and way too often it is given to those who have an addiction to pills. The doctors need to be more selective to who it is prescribed too.  It should only be used for those who are shooting heroin.
It should only be used for a short time along with counseling and support groups to stabilize the person.


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Thanks all.... im going to go down 5 mg every 2weeks instead of 1 and see if i can handle that better. I cannot deal with withdrawels and teach at the same time... or maybe my job will keep my mind off myself. I wish i had done more research before methadone. I really think breaking the cycle of buying pills has been good... and i havent had a "high" since taking methadone.... so that is good, too...this is really a scary road.
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I think your new taper sounds good and if needed you could take longer at each drop. Breaking the cycle of buying pills is HUGE. Way to go. IMO going slow helps with withdrawals.  Helping your body even out before going down again.  Can you talk to your doctor about getting clonidine, nausea medication and perhaps a benzodiazepine?  This might put you at ease knowing you have this for your withdrawals.  Don't be scared.  Everyone is different you may not have withdrawals.  I recently tapered off methadone no withdrawals. I stopped taking my 2.5 ml. and that was that. No withdrawal.  For me I wanted no withdrawals so I tapered long and got low.   I used clonidine nausea meds klonapin xanax and smoked weed to help withdrawals .  I felt nothing and stopped the meds still smoke though.  I now have over a month and feel fine just like day one.  
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Omg thank you for your positive comment. I hope to have your experience. I dread the discomfort, and have no one but folks on this site to help..... live in small town. Will keep posting
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Im scared to get back to pills-my weakness. I am going to try to go back down to 30mg again tomorrow... see how the week goes... keep good thoughts for me please
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Hi David....well im glad to here your slowing this down it will really help.....is there any possibility you could only drop 2mg rather then 5 ???  that would be best I have been working with methadone addicts for 6 yrs now on this forum....those that go slow defiantly have it ezer in the end....one thing you need to do is get up to walmart and pick up a vitamin...it is a 3 in one...calcium/magnesium/zinc....methadone robs your body of these ecential minerals ....I found this out researching methadone withdrawal on the internet and though I would give it a try.....WOW what a difference you simple take 4 with breakfast and 4 with dinner...it takes a few days to start to build up in your system but the difference is amazing....+ it is only 6 bucks for a big bottle if your not already on it start...other then that you just have to go threw it...just know your not in this alone where hear to help.... keep posting for support and just know every thing you go threw is worth it to be free of the liquid handcuffs.... also you have a lot going for you....your dose is not crazy high like mine was (150mg) you havent been on it for years (7yrs) like I was....the only wild card is we dont know your age...the 20 somethings bounce back a lot ezer then the 40 somethings...I was 47 when I detoxed so the cards where stacked agenst me....it was this forum and my faith in God that got me threw it.....talk to you soon
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Thanks so much. Im 50. I asked clinic-think they only deal in 5 mg incriments... what about Vitadone?
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