Even though I only had but a crumb of subutex is a.m. I am starting to feel the headache coming on!! This stinks! I am not going to take anymore. I know it will make the headache worse... I took my Zertec last night. So I know it is not from that.. It has to be this med!
Lady
To: wannabefree
I di not think you ment it to be rude. But around here you can never tell..lol..lol.. I am glad that my post are helping you. The reason for the post have been to help others as well as my self. This way i can look back and see what I did. I tent to forget..lol..lol.. Do not know if it's age or drugs, My guess, Alittle of both..lol...
To: docnomore
I plan to contiune to keep everyone posted to what happens throught my road of recovery. To be honest, I have alot of stuff on my plate. I am very over whelmed... I hope I can pull this off... This is the kind of stuff that makes you want to use.. You know..
Lady
yeah lady, you gave it a good try and now you should be ok with the WD's to handle it. I'm really interested to know how you will feel after.
My original post did sound rude and wasn't intended that way. I misread the first reply as being part of yours and apologize for that. I hope today goes better for you. Hang in there, you're almost done. I wish i were in your shoes, I am on day 2 of CT and it is misery. Reading your posts give me hope that i can do this.
I would have to agree with you. I get this strang feeling in my chest with this stuff. One day I almost had a panic attack from it. It really scared me. I am not a fan of this stuff either. I am sure it is great for people who can take it. Looks like to many side effect for me. My migrains have always been trouble. This stuff seem to trigger them. I am sure the stress I am under is not helping. Have alot going on in my life. Not enough answers...
Lady
That sounds reasonable to me. 8 days should be enough and take a crumb or 2 if you really need it but try to resist. I don't think these sub docs really know what they are doing and they are raking in the $. Many people think this stuff is great but I really don't like it in most cases and it can be dangerous.
Thnak you so much for all your post. The comments have been helpful. I got another really bad migrain last night.. This a.m I really felt drained. Like I could sleep all day. So I had some crumbs of the subutex. From trying to break it. So I took two very small ones. Maybe not even 1mgs. Or maybe 1mgs..lol..lol.. hard to tell. I am alittle better. I am going to see how I do, not taking anymore. I guess the worse that can happen is I will have to go back to taking a few crumbs..
You all have made some good points. It has only been 6 days. So if I stop the sub today. By the time it is good and gone. I should be at day 8 or 9 from my DOC. Like I said I could always take a few crumbs of the subutex here and there, If I really have to. I have like 21 of those pills left.
Like someone said. Thses pills and the Dr cost to much for me to feel this bad. Just not worth it.. I would hate to be addicted to something that makes me feel this bad..lol..lol... What a nightmare that would be...
Lady
I think she's been on it for 5 days I think maybe not, how are you Magi?
Galdy
You have been on the Sub for 4 weeks and if you quit cold turkey at this point, you would feel some withdrawels. If you're wanting to get off the Sub, I would suggest a fairly fast taper. Try going down 1 mg per week, then a crumb for a week, then a crumb every other day for a week or so.
Good luck and let us know how you're doing.
Since you have had such a bad time with it, I would go off too. It's too expensive to be making you ill. You'll need to be extra vigillant and use caution if opiate are around, you are still very vulernerable to going back to the old ways
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But if you are commited to a sober life, you can do this without the Sub!!
Just be careful you may think you don't need it and may get into trouble and I don't want to see that I would just stay on 4mg a day for a little longer give it time to adjust and talk to your doctor maybe he can give you something for anxiaty maybe?
Good luck
After only 4 days on the Sub, I beleive you could just stop if you really wanted to and not suffer any withdrawels from the Sub. Any time under 15 days, you're not addicted. But you will still feel some left over withdrawels from your DOC. In orther words, if you went cold turkey, what ever point you would be at on day 5 (lets say), is where you will be at if you quit the Sub now. Except that alittle of the Sub will stay in your system for approx. 2 days. If you don't take any Sub tommorrow (Tuesday), by Thursday you probably won't be feeling to hot, but you will have by-passed the worst of the withdrawels.
Good luck and do what you feel is best for you.
Magi
I highly doubt she will get addicted tapering herself off instead of going CT She is already on very little . It will be much easier on your body don't suffer if you don't have too.
Why suffer more on a drug that isn't helping? I would stop it CT. You have been of the other narcotics for 5 days and you should be through most of that withdrawl. If you follow the other advise you will get addicted to it and it still might make youfeel sick all the time.
I went on Sub as well. I started on 1/2 pill which I think is 4mg. That is what my Doc said to take the first time I took it aand it worked for me, if I nneded more then to take the other half in about 1 hour, itthe 1/2 pill worked great for me so that is what I have stayed on now for 4 weeks. So does anyone know what will happen when I go off of these? Will you habe the w/d ? I want to get off these as well.
Good luck, but please try taking less, my doc also said less is best.....
hun I would taper all the way down just keep taking less and less until you hit a crumb then a crumb every few days then jump off
Lady, I dont have much knowledge on sub, I almost got put on it but declined at the last minute, this is something that Im now happy about, not that Im bashing sub, Im only happy that I rode out the storm of methadone withdrawals on my own, regardless when I was thinking about going onto sub, I was told by the doctor that sub doesnt always work for everyone, some people do very well on it, while others dont. You could give it more time, or not, at the end of the day this is your body your decision, either way I wish you the best. Penelope
I think that you are confused! You most of missed one of my post. I found your post to be rude!!!!! Not sure that you meant it to be. I would like to think that you did not mean to be rude, When you said for me to be honest with myself and all of you. I have been nothing but honest.. I believe you have missed one of my post. The 1st day at the dr office, I had 3 shots, then 3 pills over the day. The 2nd day I had 4mgs four times over the day. The 3rd day, I thought I was dying. (oh, I saw the dr on the 2nd day. He gave me new rx for the 4mgs pills. said to take it 4 or 5 times aday) Day 3 I only had 8mgs all day. 2 dose of the 4mgs. The 4th day I had 2mgs 2times over the day. Which brings me to today. I have had 2mgs twice today. So now you have the hole story. I have left out all the sickness and migrain headaches. I was trying to keep it short..
This med just does not agree with me. That is why I am going to try and stop it. I do not think I have been on it long enough to be addicted to it. Besides it will take a few days before it is all out. I should be over the worse of the opi w/d's. That was my thinking..Just looking for some thoughts on it...
Lady
My bad, I was confused and thought you had said you hadn't taken for 3 days but it was Dogg55 who said that. Look, DONT stop CT, wean it. You are going to w/d if you don't. Just take 1mg in the morning,and see what happens from there?
I stopped lts ct., suffered miserably for 3-4 days, then decided to take less than 2mg of a suboxone tablet for four days cutting the piece smaller everyday and it is what got me up and out of the house. I only took it once a day (am) and it def helped. However, i would not let myself take it longer than 4 days for fear of more wds!! I agree w/ above... I am also suffering from fatigue and have not taken sub in days. I am interested in seeing how your experience goes, and good luck.
Your other option is quit CT, can you handle that?
Take less!!! People have been telling you that for days. Yesterday you felt lousy, hey at least your a bit better today? Remember less is more with this drug so do what people are advising and take less. Now, if I remember right, you went to the doctor on wed, so are you saying the last 3 days you havent taken any? I'm confused? Get honest with us and yourself- we want to help you. Take the smallest amount possible and GIVE IT TIME. It's going to take at least a day or so to level out in your system. Dont give up
I'm on my sixth week of suboxone. Believe me, the reason you're sick is you're taking too much. I found out early that I don't need very much at all. I took 3 of the 8mg tabs within the first 24 hours and I really thought I was dying. I've learned that all I need is 2mg daily, or less. I decided last week to stop taking them to see what happens. I quit for three full days and didn't have any effects at all except I began feeling very tired. So I decided to take some. I took 4 mg. (half a tab), then 2 mg a little later. Bad idea! I upchucked like crazy. Anyway, I took 2 mg yesterday and didn't take any today and I was just so fatigued I couldn't get off the couch, so I took 2 mg. and i feel fine. I guess maybe in my case the fatigue is the only w/d symptom I'm going to have. And it is bad, but nothing like the misery of getting off vicodin. I haven't had any other symptoms: no pain, no sickness, no jimmy legs, no insomnia.