Wow

[Imdone12]

My boyfriend is telling  me that detoxing from pills is no different than Quitting smoking weed. And saying that the withdrawls are the same. He is kidding me right or is he trying to make me feel even worse

[minn66]

I, and countless others on here can definitely attest to the fact that opiate withdrawal symptoms are not in our heads. Yes, there is the mental dependency, but the physical is VERY REAL. Sweetie, he just doesn't understand because he was using something with a totally different effect and chemical makeup. We're here for you. It is near impossible for someone who hasn't been through it to "get it. "

[Imdone12]

What he was trying to tell me is that he just quit smoking week cold turkey and he was fine singe doesn't see why I can't just stop pooping pills. In his head it is all the Same thing. He thinks I. Am weak and that it is all on my head that there are any true physical withdrawls

[krismac]

i have some nursing under my belt and yes they both r drugs but mj is mental addiction, ur's is phys. u both will have cravings but its very hard 2 come off pills, i myself am starting today and having to do this for me no one else, or u will go right back 2 them.... good luck everyone and the end rusult is all that matters, we can all get through this

[MikeInFrance]

So I would venture even deeper and say that the mental cravings are not the same either. Are there any people who have severe mental issues regarding marijuana 'detox' ?... Yes for sure but you can say that the vast majority of opiate users have hard mental issues when stopping. And it's just not true for marijuana users.  And I also assume (I think I'm right here) that she was speaking about physical wd's in this thread  but hopefully she'll clear that up.  As far as the empathy thing....if i fail to show it, I'm sorry but I really do have it and tend to show it quite a bit.

[rizboy]

perfect!!you hit the nail on the head

[Climb_Strait]

*only the occasional user of weed*

[minn66]

I don't believe riz was minimizing marijuana addiction or any other addiction. The OP is trying to quit opiates and her husband was saying (based on what I understand of her post) that she shouldn't be feeling so crappy because withdrawal from marijuana is the same as that of opiates. While the mental craving may be the same, the physical is definitely not. Detoxing from opiates is a physical hell. Addiction in any form is harmful, no one is disputing that, and no one is saying that overcoming the addition of choice is not difficult. As for the physical aspect, opiate withdrawal symptoms are a big part of why it is so difficult for people who want to get off of them to quit.

[Climb_Strait]

I am an opiate addict of four years. I had smoked pot since the age of 13. I am now 32. Towards the end of my using oxy I gave up the weed. Just wasnt what I needed. But I just stopped. No physical or mental w/d. I dont know if this is because of the grip the pills took on me or the fact that I wasw only an occasional user but thats my experiance. I believe it to be psycho addictive but not physically addictive which Im learning is not to far apart. Idoubt any of this helps but there it is.

[hellc@mst]

Really? Your empathy includes alienating other forum members who may have a problem with marijuana addiction?  You speak as if support for a marijuana addict (even if that support is oblique/second hand) and support for an opiate addict (the OP/Imdone) are mutually exclusive.  When I expect (silly of me I know)  forum members to have empathy for the ADDICT im talking about ADDICTION in the broader context.

Anyways, all the best on your journey
Regards Jeremy

[rizboy]

if you look at the comments sarah,gnarly,mike and i made,we ARE showing empathy towards the member who made the post.

[hellc@mst]

From MY experience the cravings for sex, food, gambling, alcohol and barbiturates are nothing in comparison with an opiate but thats not to say that people who ARE affected by these addictions arent susceptible to the same mental anguish, depression and overall lack of energy (malaise) that I encountered when I eshewed opiates. Just because it never happened to me doesnt mean it couldnt happen to somebody else. Besides, proof by anecdote is not a valid/definitive argument.

I expected a little more empathy from members of this forum rather than  narcotic oneupmanship/snobbery Ive encontered thus far.

[rizboy]

from my own experience the cravings for cannabis are nothing in comparision to an opiate.the mental anguish,depression and overall lack of energy and motivation that is brought about in abstinance from opiates is truely terrifying!give me cannabis abstinance ten times over.just my own experience

[hellc@mst]

Addiction is addiction no matter what substance we are trying to conquer. Its true that opiate withdrawals have far more severe physical symptoms than withdrawing/stopping marijuana but ultimately the psychological cravings for an 'addict'  are no different. Afterall, cocaine and methamphetamine withdrawals arent physically traumatic either but few people would dare say that overcoming opiate addiction is a more difficult (psychologically) challenge than crack addiction.

Besides, we're constantly reminded that substance abuse is just a "symptom of the disease" (not that I necessarily agree with this sentiment)  so is it not fair to say that the actual "disease"  is equally difficult to conquer regardless of the substance we prefered to abuse? Or does the "disease" manifest itself less obssessively in the marijuana/ benzo/ barb/stimulant/alcoholic/addict than it does in an opiate fiend? Pffft!  

Anyway, just so there is no confusion, I agree that opiate withdrawals are more physically traumatic than marijuana detox.  

[gnarly_1]

tell him to google opiate addiction or come to are site a lot of people think just like him there liker well just quit taking them they dont understand the ramification............Gnarly  

[rizboy]

totally untrue u cant even compare the two! its like comparing a tiger to a domestic cat, there both cats,but,one will sit on your lap,the other will rip your head off!!

[MikeInFrance]

Educate him then... There is so much info here about that and everywhere online that contradicts what he says.

[dominosarah]

There is no physical wd to speak of when coming off weed.  That was a poor comparison.