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clonidine dose in opiate withdrawal
Hello, I am currently planning to get off pills after 5 years. I am very scared of the wd symptoms. I was wondering if anyone has tried clonidine. How much did you take and did it help.
i had breast cancer , was on oxycodone 80mg twice a day while going thru the chemo, radiation , and surgeries, i took my self off the oxys ask my doctor to give me suboxone wich he did over 2 yrs ago, now i want off this stuff too. because where i live in the u.s ther is alot of ppl on pills and abusing them buying them from the street makes ppl who actually have a reason to be on the drug get the same disheartened looks at the pharmacy everytime i go i get treated like im some sort of junkie, even tho i have explained my medical history more than @#$#@!& once !. so ive decided to come off the subs and im wondering what are the addiction risk with clonodine, also i have low blood pressure to begin with is that a problem , so far the wd arent to bad im not sleeping to well bout 20 mins at a time and im having body pain, bout like the flu, how long will this last i was cutting myself down from 1/2 to 1/4 over a three month period. and my last dosage was more like a half of a 1/4 wich i guess would be 1/8 my doctor is aware of my desicion and has said he will give me the clonidine if i feel i need it but id really like to make a informed dicesion. so please someone help!!!
To the whole page- I just read everything on this page. I am on day one of withdrawal. problem is- I cannot tell ANYONE close to me (Family, Husband, parents, friends...) Almost a year ago- I went voluntarilly into an outpatient rehab that fit into my work schedule. (My son is now 18 1/2 months) And was on Suboxone from July through the end December. Then my insurance changed to a high dedectible plan, and the Sub's were $600 a month. So- I was good for a month- then went back on pills. Lots of pills. Hydros...Oxy's, whatever i could get my hands on. At least 120 a day. and these were the 10 mg. I have a HUGE tolerance. SO-it's day one. I have a full bottle of clonodine. I have to work everyday. And take care of my son at night. Any suggestions? Other than diareah...nothing too bad yet. I do have some ambien for the nights my husband is home. He works nights. This is it. I need to do it this time!! HELP!!!!
To the whole page- I just read everything on this page. I am on day one of withdrawal. problem is- I cannot tell ANYONE close to me (Family, Husband, parents, friends...) Almost a year ago- I went voluntarilly into an outpatient rehab that fit into my work schedule. (My son is now 18 1/2 months) And was on Suboxone from July through the end December. Then my insurance changed to a high dedectible plan, and the Sub's were $600 a month. So- I was good for a month- then went back on pills. Lots of pills. Hydros...Oxy's, whatever i could get my hands on. At least 120 a day. and these were the 10 mg. I have a HUGE tolerance. SO-it's day one. I have a full bottle of clonodine. I have to work everyday. And take care of my son at night. Any suggestions? Other than diareah...nothing too bad yet. I do have some ambien for the nights my husband is home. He works nights. This is it. I need to do it this time!! HELP!!!!
Opiates lower your respiratory rate and depending on other conditions also lowers your heart rate. Opiate withdrawal can be unbearable without assistance. I personally came off of over 1000 mg a day of oxycontin and oxycodone (prescribed by the number 1 pain clinic in the NW) without any help. It was the hardest thing I have ever done. Be careful with withdrawal, be prepared to not be functional. As good as the medications make you feel, the opposite is true during early withdrawal. You feel very low, but it does get better and reach out for help if you can. If you have no family or other support systems then there is a National Helpline 1-800-273-TALK. For those brave people who are quitting narcotics, you are not ALONE! I still have a chronic pain condition, but the pills were killing me and the stigma was my tombstone. Please know that I am thinking of all of you and hoping with all my heart that brighter days are coming soon for you:)
Thank you. All sounds like good advice. iThis is the first time i have heard the contents of a 'kit'. This helps! Whensuffering through the Agony it is good to have remedies on hand to ease the suffering. Thanks! And yes, staying off all together is, by far, the best plan of all. The 'feel good' is most definitely Not worth the terrible withdrawal pain. It's better to find another way (any other way) to cope with the ordeal that leads people to use opiates. First there's the hardship that lead to the opiate use. Then, there's the hardship of ongoing withdrawal. and still the first has not been solved, leaving the person with two overwhelming hardships! I wish all of you coping with WD all the success in the world! No one deserves this level of suffering. I hope medical science soon finds a way for people to withdraw from opiates in a less painful way.
One thing to point out here is do not think you can Suboxone for a week or two to prevent the WD's and think you will get off of it easy because you think you are not addicted to it yet because you have only taken it a few days. The fact is if you are addicted to any opiate, you are already addicted to them all, so the short term trial thing will not work.
As bad as it can be, quiting cold turkey (or maybe a taper down beforehand which MAY reduce the WD's) it the only way you will ever get off opiates permanently and then you should move where you no no one, in a rural area for a year that would takes 3+ hours to go to a place to score and tell every doctor you see so they won't prescribe any opiates to you.
Suboxone it no different the Oxycontin or a majority of drugs. The drug companies make these drugs so that there patients become addicted or have to use them to maintain their health so you will have to buy them forever. Theres a reason why drugs like these are the pharmaceutical companies biggest money makers. Addicts are a drug company/dealers best friend. I mean if the fact that methamphetamine is legal and can be prescribed easily for ADD (like Adderal), do you relay think the government wants drugs to be illegal or do they want them illegal so they can control the market and make all the money? “Legally” of course LOL.
WD's suck and that is just a fact of life, there are really no ways around it, there are some thing to make it more comfortable, but really it still ***** more then anything else you have probably experienced. IMO the WD's is 90% of why people become addicted to opiates, because most long term addicts would quit for anything, but the WD's are INSANE, nothing like anything else(IMO it is the main reason people become addicted and unless you have gone through them, you have NO idea what they are like and it is the reason why most people continue to use and why a lot of people that have gone through rehab, usually OD after word because they know they are going to use again and they do not want to do it all over again. I personally do not think most of those people that OD like this, did it on accident, because they know what they can take. I think if any opiate addict contemplated committing suicide they would try to OD themselves intentionally because it has to be the most painless and peaceful death and because they do not want to go through the WD's again and or feel they will never be able to quit. I think Curt Cobain tried to OD himself because of the amount of Heroin they found in his system and since that didn't work, he choose a more certain method.(May he RIP).
Good luck with you WD's and just remember, they will go away, but plan on feeling so bad that it will be like nothing before, It hurts mentally(anxiety is insane) physically, you won't sleep(which drives me nuts and makes it seem to last longer. If you use drugs like Benzo's(Valium Xanax, etc) or other addicting drugs to relieve the WD's use them only when you can't stand it anymore, otherwise you will just become addicted to those drugs which also have the worst side effect of the opiates, like lack of sleep, and anxiety and substituting another addictive drug to get off another does nothing except change you drug of choice and you will still be an addict IMO, unlike some so called addiction specialist that think if you are on a non-mind altering drug, you are no longer an addict. LOL
PLEASE watch the movie Methadonia and you will see what I am talking about.
As bad as it can be, quiting cold turkey (or maybe a taper down beforehand which MAY reduce the WD's) it the only way you will ever get off opiates permanently and then you should move where you no no one, in a rural area for a year that would takes 3+ hours to go to a place to score and tell every doctor you see so they won't prescribe any opiates to you.
Suboxone it no different the Oxycontin or a majority of drugs. The drug companies make these drugs so that there patients become addicted or have to use them to maintain their health so you will have to buy them forever. Theres a reason why drugs like these are the pharmaceutical companies biggest money makers. Addicts are a drug company/dealers best friend. I mean if the fact that methamphetamine is legal and can be prescribed easily for ADD (like Adderal), do you relay think the government wants drugs to be illegal or do they want them illegal so they can control the market and make all the money? “Legally” of course LOL.
WD's suck and that is just a fact of life, there are really no ways around it, there are some thing to make it more comfortable, but really it still ***** more then anything else you have probably experienced. IMO the WD's is 90% of why people become addicted to opiates, because most long term addicts would quit for anything, but the WD's are INSANE, nothing like anything else(IMO it is the main reason people become addicted and unless you have gone through them, you have NO idea what they are like and it is the reason why most people continue to use and why a lot of people that have gone through rehab, usually OD after word because they know they are going to use again and they do not want to do it all over again. I personally do not think most of those people that OD like this, did it on accident, because they know what they can take. I think if any opiate addict contemplated committing suicide they would try to OD themselves intentionally because it has to be the most painless and peaceful death and because they do not want to go through the WD's again and or feel they will never be able to quit. I think Curt Cobain tried to OD himself because of the amount of Heroin they found in his system and since that didn't work, he choose a more certain method.(May he RIP).
Good luck with you WD's and just remember, they will go away, but plan on feeling so bad that it will be like nothing before, It hurts mentally(anxiety is insane) physically, you won't sleep(which drives me nuts and makes it seem to last longer. If you use drugs like Benzo's(Valium Xanax, etc) or other addicting drugs to relieve the WD's use them only when you can't stand it anymore, otherwise you will just become addicted to those drugs which also have the worst side effect of the opiates, like lack of sleep, and anxiety and substituting another addictive drug to get off another does nothing except change you drug of choice and you will still be an addict IMO, unlike some so called addiction specialist that think if you are on a non-mind altering drug, you are no longer an addict. LOL
PLEASE watch the movie Methadonia and you will see what I am talking about.
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