everyone

[piccolos]

I fell back in 2 my darkness. Idk if I have the power 2 come out of it.these pills I hate & love them. I'm going 2 do the detox all over wish me luck to stay off of them this time

[DarkEyedCreature]

http://www.rational.org/index.php?id=36

Do me a favor( and yourself) copy & paste that link and read the site. It can really help you get things straight in your mind. I felt the same way you did, and now I am feeling I do have the power. You CAN do this.

[SparkyPipes]

Dear Friend, I understand what you are feeling. I am also having difficulties with Opiates and have been on them for over 12 years through my physician. I have NEVER abused them but several times during a workman's compensation injury in a three year period my insurance was cut off seven times and I had to go cold turkey. It was miserable . . . I am slowly trying to take myself off of these drugs. There are so many Homopathic drugs available now and I have been taking several of them. One is called Dyflaminol and it deals with inflammation. Another Arthocin, Curamin and Curamin PM also deal with pain and ALL of these can usually be purchased at a health food store or grocery store that deals in healthy alternative eating. One other Homeopathic supplement called Nerve Fix is also helping and Tart Cherries have a natural block on the pain inhibitors and also have Melatin to help you sleep. You can get Red Tart Cherry in Water at most grocery stores but a place called www.BrownWoodAcres.com sells this in juice form, pill form and dried fruit. I swear by this stuff and it has helped me with pain and the University of Michigan did a 10-year study on Tart Concentated Cherries. The Montemorency Type Cherry has the most healing in them.

So now the hard part of taking myself off these Opiates is ahead of me. I have enough in stock to do this and I want to so back. I understand the hating them and loving them at the same times because I hate the way they change my mood and my personality and how I feel if I don't take a dose. But I love the way they take away all the pain and hurt my body feels. After 12 years I know I'm hooked, and I believe my Dr. does too but we've talked about alternatives and he seems to think this is the best way.

Detox is NOT easy and this site gives some very important instructions. If you can't find them here they are. Hope this helps and I'll be putting you on my prayer list for strength and for peace and healing. This was on my welcome e-mail and is called the Thomas Detox. Everything in brackets that gives warnings are his thoughts on this. Check with your Dr. to see if there would be any complications but this is one recipe I am keeping when I get to the point to be able to go cold turkey after cutting my doses back dramatically over a 3 week period. You can do this you deserve to be free . . . we all do!

Thomas Recipe Re-Posted
Comments in brackets are my thoughts.[ ]

[Warning. If you are on anti-Depressants, use medical supervision on L-Tyrosine, SamE and all mood enhancers. There can be a risk if taking L-Tyrosine, 5 HTP  if you are on a tricyclic  or a MAIO antidepressant's ...It can cause a spike in blood pressure.]

Thomas Detox Recipe
PLEASE NOTE: I am not a doctor, simply a long-time Rx opiate junkie who has had many opportunities to develop a way to detox. This is a recipe for at-home self-detox from opiates based on my experience as well as that of many other addicts. It is not intended as professional medical advice. It is always wise to make sure none of the recipe ingredients or procedures conflict with medications you may be taking. Likewise, if you have any medical condition, disease, allergy or any other health issue, consult your doctor before using the recipe. Thanks, Thomas

This recipe is designed for cold turkey opiate detox. It assumes that you can get about 5 to 7 days away from your job or household responsibilities during which you can sleep, veg and act as miserable as you feel. Opiate WD mimics the symptoms of the common flu, so, if you need a smokescreen, hide behind a bad case of the flu.

If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.

For the Recipe, You'll nee
1.Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store). [generic brand anti-diarrheal is fine. Don't take it unless really uncomfortable]
2.L-Tyrosine* (500 mg caps) from the health food store.* [See Warning]
3.Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper and Magnesium.
4.Vitamin B6 caps. [or stress B-complex?]
5.Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available). [many gyms offer free trials]
How to use the recipe

During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate W/D symptom. [I like Epsom salts in the tub. Forces Magnesium into the muscles]

Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. DON'T TAKE IT, however, if you don't need it.[Diarrhea is the bodies way to aid in the detox so take Immodium or generic for the comfort factor, if needed]

Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine*. Try 2000 mg, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mg. Take the L-Tyrosine* with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine* will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine* can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate W/D, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine* is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help. [*Read the Warning first! *L-Tyrosine* is great. *SamE 400* mg works for mood too]

With breakfast, take the mineral supplement.

As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better. [Walking gets the blood and lymph systems working, helping you detox better.]

PLEASE NOTE: If you have any medical complications, first check with your doctor before detoxing to verify that this regimen is safe for you. [Very important note]

[WARNING If you are on anti-Depressants, use medical supervision on L-Tyrosine, SamE and all mood enhancers. There can be a risk if taking L-Tyrosine, 5 HTP  if you are on a tricyclic  or a MAIO antidepressant's ...It can cause a spike in blood pressure.]