perc withdraws

[tjv615]

Hello All,
  I have bean taking Perc 10/325 for like 3 Years, I go throug 120 pillis in 2 weeks,   This is what is going on now, I ran out of my scrip 1 week ago, for 3 days I to like 120mg of morphine, then in two days I took 60 Tramidal, I have not had anything now for 2 Days, I went to check in to a Detox Clinic but the would not take me because I don't show and drugs in my system, what shoud I expect at this point and what should I do. Im tierd of living on pills, today I started to have the runs, and bad stomach cramps, where do I go from here?

[tjv615]

Day  And feeling even better, I finaly feel alive like I never done befor, It is great. Still a long road ahead, But it don't look as bad as it did days ago, I was able to walk 2 miles, for me that is great, I'm eating again, Like you all said it takes time just stick with it, If I can do this any one can LOL. that you all for your support.

[tjv615]

well today is going good, for the fist time in a week Im a little more active. Still not there yet, But Im getting there one day at a time. Tomorrow I'm hoping for even a better day, Thanks to all

[buddycrunch]

OK, they are gone, put em in the dumpster this morning and just heard the trash truck come by and take em.
Called my shrink awhile ago, told him i hadn't used them yet and he agreed, after this much time that i should not start.  He said he would call in the gabapentin for me and wants to see me in two weeks.  

I'm still feeling unusually happy today, same as yesterday, almost goofy.

[D713]

I'm on day 7!!! Not wanting it but my mind misses it..=(

[buddycrunch]

CONGRATS ON MAKING A WEEK!!!  Gets easier now, but the more you begin feeling real the more ups and downs you will notice.

my sleep aids are, (do an hour before bed time)
1. take generic otc sleep aid that is samething as benadryl, or generic tylinolPM if in pain
2. take melitonin
3. take one of the supliment called 5HTP it is tryptophan that is in turkey, does cause me to have weird dreams at times

then

4. try to clear head by watching old sitcom reruns that you can find on the internet when you start losing attention to the rerun, go to bed
I alternate the sleep aids and often rewatch the same episodes of seinfeld

[tjv615]

Well Day seven, I finaly did get some sleep lastnight, With help from my Soma's I think this is the first night I did realy sleep, I hope I didn't make a mistake by taking my Soma. I did get gaterade and It does help, I was realy dehidraded. felling a little better today, but still not up to par. I wish I never started taking my pain pills. I would not wish this on my wost enemy. Just hope I'm up to going trick or treet with the kids wednesday, Me and the wife do it every year. I don't want to miss out on this, the kids love it when I go along.

[buddycrunch]

you made me laugh until my eyes watered...

still trying to come up with the best answer..........   ummm, maybe so i can send them to shilo if admits my generation is better than his lololol

I can't make it without you guys and told shiloh i'm willing to throw mine away in a private message, i've read nothing but bad about them, I think i'll let my wife read this thread and give them to her when she gets home from church.



sorry guys, just joking about sending them to shiloh, i'd be willing to drive wherever he is and kick him in the pants if he lets me down though.

But i am in a fantastic mood after reading this from one of our members on this website,  

"PERSONAL LETTER FROM MY ADDICTION

Dear Connie:
I’ve come to visit once again.  I love to see you suffer:  mentally, physically, spiritually & socially.  I want to make you restless so you can never relax.  I want you to be jumpy, nervous and anxious. I want to make you agitated  and irritable so every thing & every body makes you uncomfortable.  I want you to be confused and depressed so you can’t think clearly and positively.  I want you to hate everybody and ESPECIALLY YOURSELF!  I want you to feel guilty & remorseful for the sins (mistakes) you have made in the past that you will NEVER be able to let go of……..I want to make you angry and hateful towards the world for the way that IT is & the way that YOU are.

I want you to feel sorry for yourself and blame everybody but ME for the way things are.  I want you to be
deceitful and untrustworthy…..to manipulate and con as many people as possible.  I want to make you fearful & paranoid for no reason at all.  I want to make you wake up during all hours of the night screaming for me.   You KNOW you can’t sleep without me!  I’m even in your dreams.  I want to be the FIRST thing you think of every morning and the LAST thing you think of before you blackout at night.  I’d rather kill you, but I’ll be happy enough
just to put you back in the hospital or in another institution, or jail……but you know I’ll be waiting for you when you get out!!

I love to watch you slowly go insane.  I love to see all the physical damage that I am causing you; I can’t help but sneer and chuckle when you shiver and shake; sweat and freeze at the same time! When you wake up and your sheets & blankets are soaking wet.  It’s amusing to watch you ignoring yourself….not eating… not sleeping….. even your own personal hygiene……yes, it’s amazing how much destruction I can be to your internal organs while at the same time working on your brain……destroying it bit by bit.

I want you to know, I deeply appreciate how much you’ve sacrificed for me…… the countless good jobs, all the fine friends that you deeply cared for….you gave up FOR ME!!  What’s more, the ones you’ve turned against yourself because of your inexcusable actions.  I’m even more grateful for them!   And especially your loved ones;  your family;  the most important people in the world to you….you threw them away….for me!!  I cannot express in words the gratitude I have for the loyalty you have for me.  You sacrificed all these beautiful things in life just to devote yourself COMPLETELY to me.  But do not despair.  You can ALWAYS count on me.  For after you’ve lost ALL these things, you can depend on me to KEEP you in a LIVING HELL…..to KEEP your mind, body and soul….for I will not be satisfied until YOU, Connie, are dead, my friend!

Forever yours,
Your Addiction

"

[ImDONENoMore]

Why - WHY are you both holding onto those meds?  Please, I can't stress this enough - get RID of them!

[buddycrunch]

Glad to see you got on the website today, i've been on for three hours already.  This place is addicting.  lol

You ol' fart, YOU do realize that YOU are my reason for not opening this nonrefillable 60 pills of 50mg trams.  I'm close to 60 days off hydros and oxy's just live on the gabapentins, tylenols, ibuprofins, vitamins etc.  Last night on here I found info about amino acids, I'm going to the health food store tomorrow to fill the list.  It's a large list of instructions so i'll just put the link here [url]http://www.medhelp.org/health_pages/Addiction/Amino-Acid-Protocol/show/15?cid=66[url/]  we need to do this bud!

[ImDONENoMore]

Anshiloh - please get rid of those pills!  I promise you, in a weak moment, and you will have a weak moment we all do, you'll be tempted to take one.

[AnShiloh]

You have started your recovery so do not stop.  I am on day 17 & feel better but still a long way to go.  I like you was on tramadol for 8 years & really big time for the last 18 months.  It is the hardest drug in the world to get off of.  I still have I bottle of 120 tablets that has never been opened &  an open bottle with many in it &  it is here so I can say rott you *********  I will never take another one of you nor will you try to destroy another person.  You have to take this stance & exist for today so you can be free of drugs & happy about in the future.  Hang in there.

[YesLife4Me]

Also excellent advice.  Right now I am toughing it out without the vitamins and such because I am broke.  I have been eating though, so that's good.  

Tjv...force yourself to eat toast, crackers, juice soup, whatever you have.  The food helps give you some energy and mood lift.  

[YesLife4Me]

Im sorry you are having a bad day.  Most people start noticing a difference by now, but not all.  Im on day 9 and today I am feeling drained, sneezy and yawny, even though I did sleep last night.  I think its all part of the process and it is different for each of us.   Maybe our age plays a role in recovery time.  All I know is that each day that goes by I remind myself that I am getting better, just not as quickly as I would like.   That's the addict in us wanting instant gratifi@ation talking.  Wanting the quick way out.  But we didn't get to where we are in 5 to 10 days now did we?   :)   I keep checking back here..it helps to know im not alone.   I have good moments and then feel myself crash.  I keep surrendering myself to the process.  We are here with you!  

[vicki595]

You will not feel good if you aren't eating and drinking!  That's why you feel like you do today!

You need to get some nourishment so get some Ensure Plus. Eat soup, take vitamins and minerals, drink water, juice and Gatorade. You'll feel better but you need to help yourself a bit here...force yourself!

[tjv615]

Well day 5 here, Today not so good, I feel worse today then yesterday, Still can't sleep. Can't eat, Can't even drink water, I keep getting a few sips in hear and there. has hoping I would atleast start feeling a little better. :(

[nursegirl6572]

That's Effexor...no it won't help, actually, if anything, Effexor tends to be more activating.  PLEASE resist the urge to start looking for something to take, like a prescribed med like that....I know, old habits die hard.

Vicki made some great recommendations for you, including something to try for sleep.  Seems like sleep is one of the last symptoms to improve, you're going to just have to try to accept that you won't be getting much for a little while.  Don't start taking all kinds of things.

Try the Allteril and go from there.  Its best to let sleep return on its own, naturally.

[Pat1956100]

NO, they won't help you sleep.  It is an anti depressant and it takes weeks for it to take effect.  Try melatonin.  You can get it at any drug store in the vitamin section and it works for lots of people.  I have tried many things for sleep and melatonin seems to work the best.  You can increase the dosage as required.

[tjv615]

Want to thank everyone for there support, Don't think I could have made it this far without everyon's help and support. And For a 45 YR old male, I am the biggest baby for pain, and one big thing is I don't know what its like to get sick. Last time I was ever sick was when I was 25 No Lie,

Does anyone know of venlafaxine? I know there fror depresion, will they help me sleep, I have a bottle of them I never used.

[YesLife4Me]

You are about to turn a corner and the worst will truly be behind you.  Trust me, I'm a big baby when it comes to not wanting to be sick, be in pain, etc, so if I can do this for 9 days, you can do this too!   There are several of us in our first 5 to 10 days now... we are all rooting for each other and you too!   Keep up the good work.  

[Fullcircle182]

Congrats on day 4!!  I know you may not feel great yet but I promise you, you will Vicki gives some great advice follow it.  Keep moving foward I promise you better days will come today is my day 30 of Percs and I fought WD's for about a week.  Your body is Detoxing its trying to restore is natural functions.  I take Multivitamins everyday now I honestly feel better now than before I became addicted to percs.  I drank lots of fluid and kept taking my vitamins and I am a whole new person.  Pat yourself on the back Day 4 is an awesome accomplishment be proud of what your doing.  Have a plan for yourself and make up your mind now that you don't want to let these pills control your life and stick to it.  Keep posting on this site it helped me get this far there are a lot of great people on here that know a lot.  Good luck my friend and keep moving foward!

[vicki595]

Here are a few suggestions that may help you:

Continue to take a bit of Immodium while you have cramping.

Take a good multi vit with minerals, every day.

Increase your fluid intake with water and Gatorade. Much of that crappy feeling is from lack of food or dehydration or both.

Pick up an OTC sleep med. A lot of folks like Alteril.

If you're aching or having bone pain, get some Epsom salts and pour a cupful in a hot bath and soak. It works very well along with some Motrin.

[tjv615]

well on day 4 still not up to par, still have stomach cramps, but I think the runs went away. Still had a bad night sleep. Can't belive I made it this far without any pills, I think this is the longest I ever went, Hoping to see the light at the end of the tunnel soon.

[YesLife4Me]

I think everyone is different.  I didn't suffer the leg cramps or creepy crawlies like others did this time.  I have in the past though depending on what I had been using.  I came off Norco only this time since that was all I had.   Each w/d episode has dramatically varied.  I had some times when I was clammy, sweaty, hot then cold.   I didn't sweat all over profusely like I did other times this last episode.  Mostly noticed it at night when I'd wake up damp.  Although I was chilled for a few days.  Around day 3 was when my appetite started coming back, so that's a good thing!  :)   As far as sleep goes, some nights I sleep ok and others good, and others not good.  It comes in phases for me.   Some say melatonin helps, but I don't have any extra funds right now to go out and purchase anything so I've been using Nyquil since my Ambien scrip is out.    You are doing great!!!  

[tjv615]

I do eat yogurt, I have bannannas,  Tonight the wife is making Chicken Helper, I think I may eat tonight, Have not had much in 3 Days, I'm trying to play on the computer to get my mind off of things. Hope I can sleep tonight, Last night was rough, No I have not realy had the aching leg cramps, or realy the hot and cold sweets, is that normal, or do I have more to come?