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question about sub

Hey everyone, hope all is well. This is day 16 for me on the sub and i saw my dr today. among other things we talked about was this website as i tell him i've learned alot of important things about the use of sub on this site and that everyone here truely seems down to earth and really cares about each other, as were all in the same boat, sort of. Among what we talked about was my concern about the  " severe wd's " from the sub when it is finally time to stop. Again, this is only my 16th day on it and im doing 6 mg per day, down from 16mg a day. I'm doing fine, no wd's, no cravings for the hydro's, go to work, play with the kids, pretty much just back to being " normal ' , whatever that is...lol..!!.  I also have been on seraquel and trazadone to sleep since getting out of detox, and since i started the sub, I have NOT taken ONE of those to sleep as im getting about 6-8 hrs a sleep a night just from being on the sub. I'm still taking the 20 mg lexapro for the depression though, but thats it. My dr said im getting too worried about the wd's when i stop (from what i've learned from you guys). He asked me then to post a question on how did those of you on the sub, finally stop (taper off) as im sure it worked wonders for most of you, AND that most of you did not experience severe wd's ( at least i hope not !! ). Like i said its only my 16th day and i know ill be probably be on it for a while longer, and i dont have a problem with it as long as I feel good, and i dont have any craving to use again. I go to a one on one with my dr once a week, and am going to start those group meetings hopefully in a few days. Thanks, Mark...
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I've been rummaging this site and others since i discovered it ten hours ago, and I must say, I'm getting really discouraged. I was taking subs for a year but never took the stupid high doses my money hungry doctor told me to. I usually stuck between 2-4mg a day, yet I was still shooting heroin and OC's whenever I got paid for a couple days, then going back to subs when I ran out of money. I went to rehab and failed multiple times. They put us on a 7 day rapid detox program using, of course, more suboxone. So after it was done I went through extreme pain for 6 days, a fellow rehabitant gave me a sub, I eventually ran out, more pain, another rehabitant sold me heroin.. lots of it. I eventually felt guilty and admitted to my actions and turned myself in and went to another rehab and had to ct off the subs. This started off fairly easy, then days 4 and 5 were hell. I've had MUCH worse from methadone, but still.. no picnic by any means. So I had the typical diharreah, sweats, extreem depression/enxiety, sneezes, ect. The 4th and 5th day I legit wanted to die, but after about day 7 things slowly got better. Now, I returned home after 16 days and still felt completely unmotivated/lethargic. Getting up off the couch was equivelant to running a marathon, just shaving or brushing my teeth were actions only to be fantasized about because having the energy to perform these trivial tasks was out of the question. So I relapsed once I had to go back to work. I wish I would have hung in there because that was 6 months ago and I'd probably be fine now. But I started shooting up, dated a girl, she helped me get clean, and I stopped getting high. However, I couldnt stop taking subs for more than a day or two without freaking out with major anxiety attacks. The girl I fell madly in love with eventually had to leave me. I want to finish getting clean now more than ever, not just to get back with her which I know she wants if I can pull this off, but just for the sake of being clean and healthy and not reliant on anything else. I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. But I'm only on day 2 now, feeling ok, but reading more posts gets me more discouraged. I've been struggling with wanting to stay alive and talking myself out of suicide on a daily basis, even WITH the subs. So hearing people say they still feel like **** after 4 months... it's hard. I read some posts on ******.com like someone mentioned, and that just added to it. I'm glad I'm informed.. but I would love to hear some success stories.. if there are any. Idk, I dont want anyone to lie to me just to ease my nerves, I'm just praying to god that I can have the strength to go through the wds without my dad catching on and kicking me out to homelessness again or losing my job..
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I was on subs for 1 full year starting at 8mg/day then dropping to 4mg/day 3 months in and then 2mg/day another 3 months then 1mg/day another 3 months.  You will tell a difference when you decrease your dosage, but it is nothing like an opiate WD.  My doctor & suboxone saved my life, been clean for a year (in a couple days!) and don't think too often about abusing opiates unless i see a trigger (blades, pill bottles, people I used to run with).  I wasn't scared to taper off, I had actually requested to and was ready after the amount of time i was on them.  

Send me a message if anyone has specifics, day 14 off the subway each day is getting better.
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i to was on subs for sixs months and my doc winged me off and it was nothing compared to the full affect from opiate w\d.as long as u dont stay on it that long and u get on a lower dose each month u wii be fine.ive been clean a year and i dont even think about goin back to opiates
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Yes, sorry you are right and I was wrong.   I took 8mg, 4mg. twice a day.  I have been trying to do this without support of my doctor due to lack of insurance but I  made  a appointment tomorrow morning.  The w/d are still bad but no sleep in 3 days, cannot eat anything.  I am 58 years old with high blood pressure so decided I better see her.

I thank God for finding this sight on my computer.  I know I could not have made it this far without all the people going through this.  I plan to share it with my doctor tomorrow.

Thanks to everyone and I just hope everyone will just hang in there.
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198154 tn?1337787265
sorry but I think your confussed.  Its not even possible to take 80mg of Suboxone a day.
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