Sudden talking with no sense

[DGWR]

Hi! Has anyone out there suddenly had a headache come on then begin to start talking & making no sense.  This lasted for about 7 hrs, they tell me.  Went to medical ER, they did brain scan.  All was o.k, I am Thankful.
I remember them putting my soda in some ice & I thought they put something in my drink, I was paranoid of them.
I started having a major headache there then I was back to myself.  They didn't even  send in a psychiatrist.
Today it happened again for 2 1/2 hrs, marching down the street, military style ( I have never been in the military).
I am afraid this is going to happen again when I am driving or in the store etc.
Does anyone have an idea of what is going wrong?  I need help!!! My psychiatrist was out of town & coming back today.  A new nurse took the message & I haven't heard a word & my doctor always calls if I have a problem.
I have BP 2 & panic d/o.

[DGWR]

I do wish you luck and I would definitely purchase your book!!!  Stress can have some MAJOR effects on body & mind so as you say, why not the reverse.....

DGWR

[weaver71]

Are you still having these experiences? Keep us posted if you can.

[weaver71]

After my psychotic break last year, I really started to meditate on what lead to it. I tried to focus on depression, anxiety, and all these different symptoms, but the cause of my first truly psychotic break experience kept eluding me. The one thing that could cause all the symptoms was stress. That is when I began my research on eustress and finding new ways to think of stress and what are the different kinds of stress. My theory is, if stress can amplify my bipolar in destructive and scary ways, it must have the power to amplify it n constructive and exciting ways. I am still experimenting, but am having good results so far. If it seems to really make bipolar and other stress triggered issues more manageable, I will write a book to share my clinical self studies. I'm really thinking that changing my thoughts hangs my feelings which, in turn, will change my whole experience as a bipolar person. Wish me luck.

[DGWR]

Thank You, I will look into the testing & I do have panic d/o

[DGWR]

Like my psychiatrist just told me, can be one of 2 things: Low Sodium or Inflammation of the brain due to stress.  Maybe not the same 4 u but could be something you might want to ask about.

[DGWR]

You are right about the stress.  I heard via phone from my psychiatrist.  He asked me about sodium level, I told him it was fine.  He said there is only 1 other thing it could be "Inflammation of the brain due to stress".  Then saying something about taking me deeper into BP.  So stress is the factor!!!  They tell me I went to the kitchen, got out a butcher knife while holding it to my head I asked if someone would remove the shrapnel.  I knew my head hurt.
Like u said when this starts my head has pressure.  I don't hear a click but I say, "I am shorting-out".  I don't know how I know something is about to go wrong but I do.
I am under a LOT of stress & I do have panic d/o.  This morning first thing, a stressful text, within 30 mins. I was talking out of my head.  These episodes have been going on for 4 days off & on.  I've march down the street military style (I've never been in the military).  I tell ppl I don't know that their evil & I need an umbrella.  I am afraid to leave my house!
The psychiatrist increased my Trileptal, will see.
I am glad u found someone to help you & I do know exactly where u r coming from on the anxiety issue. When having a panic attack often I go into a conversion state (a form of coping mechanism).
To b honest I did not think I had BP2, I started decreasing trileptal and meds for panic d/o.  Big mistake it seems! Have to come to terms with it! I increased the meds, especially the one for BP & hopefully not too fast.

Thanks weaver71
  

[weaver71]

I would have to agree with the above, that sounds like an anxiety or panic response, more than bipolar. I have blacked out in a bipolar 1 manic state, but people say I talk over their heads or just grumble to myself ranting. When I get that out of control, anger seems to be easily triggered. With PTSD, anxiety disorder, panic disorder, or other trauma based MI, a common escape mode is fantasy or to lose touch with reality. Disassocation happens for me when I get really depressed for a long time, I have felt like a toggle switch was flipped in my brain. I can actually feel and hear a "click," then my mind shifts into another state. I would say it was a headache, but it is very short, like pressure in my skull, then a click happens. I forget the headache that came on so quick and my mood starts to go wild and unpredictable. I asked my wife if she saw it happen and she said yes. I think I disassociate in times of more intensity than I feel I can handle, which is a lot.

Making sure I get enough amino acids and a balanced diet is helping a lot. I've also been experimenting with constructive stress and trying to reduce destructive stress. I guess that is just an extension of my CBT practices. I feel anxious or stress and I sit down. I meditate on what the stress is motivating me to do or make better. If it is just fear or worry, then I try to find what I can do to take away that fear or worry. Here lately, that has meant doing things beyond my comfort zone, while I feel pretty stable. For example, I was afraid I wouldn't have my house ready for winter or have enough firewood. When I added up all the work and time available, I could easily see that I could never do it all. Fear and anxiety were creeping in. I started my spiral down and realized it was happening. I meditated on it and went for a walk. I met a guy looking for work and needed a place to stay, so he is now helping me and staying at my house. Ideal, no, but my stress was legitimate, there is no way I could do it all on my own. So I asked myself, what is this anxiety encouraging me to do about my situation. I found the answer, not obsess on what I can't do alone, but go and find some help. If I don't find a solution to my anxiety, then it escalates and God only knows what I will do to escape. I can go psychotic, depressed, catatonic, hope a train, plane, or hitchhike away, I've done them all. If your brain scan is clean and you're healthy otherwise, I think this may have been caused by a thought process amplified by bipolar. Of coarse I am open to being wrong, but that is how I would think of it if it was me going through that right now.

So, did your friends or family tell you what you said or did, are there any clues that might help you see what might have triggered the disassociation and seemingly nonsensical talk? I am sensing this was a coping mechanism, but I would definitely talk to your therapist about it. What was going on before the events?

[ILADVOCATE]

   Loss of reality testing and orientation can happen during episodes of depersonalization and derealization. This can be part of anxiety disorder
and if a person has anxiety disorder and bipolar sometimes anxiety episodes can trigger mood episodes. You can ask your psychiatrist about that.
   This may or may not be related to the headache. If you often have
mood swings specifically following a headache make sure the doctor
continues to do follow up work to determine the cause. However anxiety disorder can cause many physical changes as well. You could try posting
in the anxiety form as well and discuss this further with your psychiatrist.

[jessmockingjay]

I've had this happen!! But in a milder form. I'll get this horrible headaches and become completely like loopy... I say and do really random and weird things. I have no idea why, but I would like to know too!

[DGWR]

My husband just rushed me to a medical hosp.  They said blood work was fine and cat scan of brain came back normal.

[thatquietgirl]

Did they give any explanation at all such as perhaps potassium or sodium being low?  Certain things being off balance in the body can cause confusion of that nature.  Do you have any sort of follow-up scheduled with a doctor?

[DGWR]

Please look @ my question.  Can u give some insight Please!!!
Thank You,
DGWR