It sounds like the doctor was describing encopresis.
If so, he needs fiber. When he says he doesn't know why this is happening, it's because he really can't predict when this will happen.
I can't imagine parents not being concerned enough about this to follow doctor's orders!
Right up from the age of 5 till 11 I pooped my pants, I had no way of controlling it, and never really felt that I had done it until after I had soiled myself, it was very traumatic for me as it always happened at school and I never had a change of undies and noone helped me, I had to stay in those undies....I kept a jumper on most days even in the hottest weather in case I soiled to cover my lower area up, and actually thought I was blocking the smell..I didnt do it for attention and I wasnt lazy, I was a smart kid and I was happy, but I was molested by my stepdad and an unknown woman.....I believe that my soiling stems from that, today I live in a denial that it ever happened, I wouldnt wish that shame and discomfort on anyone, you can feel so alone and degraded.
I did the same thing when I was 3 till just before I tuned 5. It would happen during nap time. I knew it would happen when I watched "The Price is Right" (on 2 hours before it would happen) and I did not want to have an accident but would still have them during nap time ( 2 year old brother did it too @ the same time) . I would get up to go to the bathroom but, I had to travel though a long hallway, the kitchen and another long hallway before I got to the bathroom. But, I would poop my pants before I even left my room. There was even a time I called my mom to take to use the bathroom but, she didn't here me and I pooped my pants. I happened once @ pre-school during nap time because I was scared to get off my cot and didn't know if the teacher would get mad if I got up(she wasnt and changed my pants). I grew out of it like some kids do).
I'll be 29 this year and hope to have two boys and two girls (when I'm ready) and help them when they have this problem. I will also help my niece or nephew (if I ever have a niece/nephew) with this problem.
My son is now 11 and still soils himself. His father and I are seperated (5 Years) we have week on week off. My son had problems with his bowels before he was two and was admitted to hospital before the age of 2 with queries of a bowel disease. He had xrays and barium enimas and we had to hold him down on the floor and physically take the bowel motion out of him it was like a rock, he couldn't pass it on his own and after that he would hide behind the couch whenever he felt a bowel motion coming and we would have to do the same thing. This has to of had an effect on him I know, I just want an answer to how to fix this for him. His father would rather rub his nose in it, which he has done before, I know he has a problem , help!!
My boyfriends son is 10 years old and still poops his pants as well, I'm getting frustrated with it because i thought he was just lazy, after reading on this site today, i am hoping to get him help. he also don't mind the smell and the dirtyness of it, he don't try to hide it, but will lie about it being him, he tries to blame his 7 year old brother, when the smell is him and all his clothes have poop in them. I started making him clean the clothes in the bath tub before i will even wash them, i do his clothes seperate from everyone elses because the smell just don't seem to go away no mattter how much soap and bounce you use.i pick him up from school and he stinks, he told me the teacher said that the whole class needs to start wearing deoderant because they are growing, and i asked him if it was because he smells like poop and he got mad and said he don't stink. it's a every day thing, weekends he will do it 2-3 times a day and we make him shower and clean up. then within a few hours he stinks again. his bed room reaks i don't know how his brother can stand it, he is 7 and has no problems going on the potty. His brother does had adhd and is coping well, i'm lost at what to do with him. i have a 17.14. 8 year old sons myself and never have had this problem with them either,.
I am lost. My 11 year old son poops himself up to 3 times a day. He doesn't care if he is dirty. He doesn't çlean himself and change. Whenever I ask if he has he lies about it until I ask to see his underwear then he breaks down crying and says only a little, which is not a little. He has been to the doctor and been given a clean bill of health. I don't know what to do anymore. I am frustrated and at my wits end. Can anyone help me? Please?
hello everyone, my niece is 13 years old and has the same problem, poop a little in her clothes and she doesnt clean, is like she doesnt care about it. When she goes to school her classmates call her crazy and dirty because they smell her. Whatever we take her to many doctors most of them agree like this is something psycology. After many years try here and there, we find a psycology who found out the problem is call encopresis. She is working with her and the change is around 60 or 70% in less then 2 weeks. We are very happy, if this help you find more information about it.
So far I see allot of families are having this same problem, I would like to see some answers from a professional that has really helped someone. It seems to be more common in boys. Our therapist says our son is showing signs of
well my son is ten and is doing the same and i am keeping everything constant with him but nothin is working with him either and i am about to pull my hair out trying to figure it out and all my doctors can say is it is a behavioral issue and i am being driven crazying thinking it must make me a bad mom not knowing what is wrong. if you find out anything please let me know too.
My 11 yr old daughter has recently started pooping and peeing in her bed, as well she has started to pee on the furniture.
What is puzzling is the effort she will make to cover it up. We recently discovered she had pooped in her bed and immediately afterwards had taken the fecal matter to the bathroom and pretended to poop in the toilet and then told us she had used the toilet.
Shortly after we discovered she had in fact pooped in her bed and took it to the bathroom.
She had recently been put on fluexotine for her skin picking and now my mother in law is saying it is because of the medication which i disagree with.
Keep in mind my 11 yr old has Global Developemental delay.
Does anyone agree that these two factors are the cause of this
The fact that she tried to cover it up would tell me that it was unintentional. I answered your question about the medication on the ADHD forum.
My son is eight and well needless to say the problem is the same. I have been to the doctors, first they diagnosed him with chronic constipation, then we had to take him to er for edema once. i make him do foods with fiber and take water with every meal, send him to the bathroom as often as I can but he still does it. Like you it was about just driving me crazy thinking how a bad mom I am, but his sister who is three uses the bathroom in order. So I figured we have a problem and I gotta have to support him and i know we will come to the end of this. Besides alot of prayers and crying to God who will ultimately heal him, I have recently started taking him to the chiropractor and we are going through sessions to see if this helps. It is tough but we gotta get through it, together EAW
thank you , my grandson is 11, and has been to doctors who prescribed laxatives and other medicine but my daughter who has 4 children is not consistent with his treatment, they are moving in with me now due to finances. I believe this does have a psychological aspect as well as physical and thanks to your dx I will now have an avenue to pursue. I love him dearly he has a mild form of autism and children tease him relentlessly already. He doesn't need this on top of it. Thank you again.
I have been with my fiance for going on 4 years. Her son is in 7th grade, and at least 4 or 5 times a week he poops himself. My underwear has been disappearing, and both of them have been saying I'm crazy if I think he's taking it. I gave him three or four pairs of my oldest most uncomfortable pairs, but when I see new underwear gone, or soiled... his mother says I probably gave it to him. I have bad memory, but not when it comes to my underwear.
The son argues with her incessantly about the problem because he hopes she'll just get fed up and leave him alone. I'm not talking 30 seconds of denial and avoiding cleaning up... He'd go on for half an hour if you let him. It's like he enjoys laying in the ****. The kid has taken this learned behavior and institutes it with any type of work, or delay in his fun. He tells both of us he'll take care of it later, and lies about it all the time. The kid whines nonstop about anything you ask him to do. He once sat in a pile of leaves for an hour that he was told to rake up. He'll mess things up worse to try to avoid being forced to do them. It's impossible... just impossible. Their logic is so screwed up. Every time I say let me take care of it, she tries to drag my 15 year old daughter into the argument. The sad fact is, my daughter won't even come over any longer. The mother goes through my phone all the time, checks my emails, listens to my phone calls to my daughter, reads my texts... I just can't take it any more. She is as bad with her behavior and her enabling, as her son is with ******** himself. She has even admitted that sometimes it is easier to deal with it another time. She's taken him to the doctor at least a dozen times. They've prescribed medicine, but she's too lazy to force him to take it religiously. It's ridiculous. If he was my son, I'd force him every damn night like clockwork. Tonight he **** himself, she sent him to the bathroom, he came back with **** still in his crack, so she sent him to clean again. The kid then comes back with the same soiled pants and thinks they are fine because he said he cleaned them off. My Lord, how unhygienic can a person be. I had to tell him a dozen times to change his pants before he finally did... and then he comes back and sarcastically asks if I'm happy he changed them. He leaves food in all of his plates, milk in his cups, never rinses anything. Heck, they both do that a lot with the food and milk. I just don't know if I can stand it any longer. His mother tries to say my 15 year old daughter is half the problem too, but she refuses to come over any longer because of these issues. I'm forced to pick her up for dinner and then drop her off. It's not fair to me to have to go through this. I'm really about to just tell them both I'm packing my bags for good. I love them both dearly, but I'm going to have a nervous breakdown. The only problem is, my fiance is 8 weeks pregnant, and we were supposed to have been married earlier this year. This problem, along with a few other issues, have kept us from going through with it. At this point... I'd rather just pay another 18 years of child support. I give up on stupid people who don't understand. If you are too lazy to change your own actions, how can you expect a child to change theirs. I've tried to get the mother to monitor him every half an hour, but she is too lazy. The only thing that worked was removing his TV from his room and grounding him from that God awful Minecraft game. As soon as he got it back... instantly a load of **** reappeared. Am I crazy, or is 3 years way too long for me to put up with this ********? ....This is all a reflection of just how pissed off I am... I'm educated, very patient, but 3 years is a long time to deal with this type of problem... especially when I've stepped in his **** about 100 times. The sad fact is, I work with laboratory testing and completely understand the pathogens involved in this. They blow it off like it's nothing. I'm a good looking guy, but all this has led to me letting myself add about 30 lbs. I'll be 40 in March, and just wondering if I'm fighting a losing battle. Thanks for listening to me rant.
To the parents of some of these kids. I'm not saying all are like this but believe it or not some kids enjoy how pooping there pants feels. The kids whose doctors can't explain it or have no medical conditions. Come to terms with the fact that some of your kids enjoy it. I know this because I was one of those kids. Long story short I had an accident in my pants when I was 8. I actually enjoyed how it felt and continued to do it. I have no medical issues and I have no learning disabilities. I just enjoyed it period.
my son as an infant pooped 5-6 times a day, i called the dr and she said he has good digestive system, had a rough time with potty training him but got it done before kinder. now he is 11 years old and still has accidents 2-4 times a week wt school of course. im feeling there is a disconnect with it. he doesnt seem to care much or he forgets that its there. i dont think he fully poops on his self but doesnt get to the bathroom in time. the problem im seeing is that he deosnt clean himself after the acciedent which is telling me there is a disconnect. ive talked with him over and over. talked with a dr and nothing seems to give me help. Im worried for him socially. Not sure where to go. dr dont say much!! very concerned for his well being in this world.
This may not be the case, but I have seen a lot of boys (especially) who don't like to use school bathrooms. And if he is in middle school, he would be one of the younger kids, which makes it even scarier. Typically, the last things the kids want to do is to go during class breaks or lunch when the restroom is full of other kids.
One thing that works (if this is true) is to find a teacher who will let him go during class time. Of course, the time of day is important. But you might ask him if he uses the bathrooms at school.
My 11 year old son saids that he can't do anything right and that he is always wrong and if I correct him he would say "there is yet another thing I can't do" and he would cry everytime. I am worried.
I have a new student this year who is 11 and soils a few times a day. I am working on having him go to the nurse to clean himself up every time it happens but I want to help him get control of it. I am very concerned that he could have been or is being molested . Do you have any suggestions on how to best help him?
While molestation might be a problem, the fact he is doing this several times a day points to more physical problems. The nurse should talk to his parents. At the least, the parents need to know what is going on. I also kind of wonder if they are not giving him some kind of a laxative. Kids do not go poo several times a day.
I am in a very similar situation. My son is currently 11 years old and has been spoiling himself for the last 3 years. It started off to where it was every once in a great while and has increased severely over the last three years. However my son has gone through a very traumatic incident involving his biological father. His father didn't want to pay child support when we divorced so he thought kidnapping them and lying to the courts and CPS about my oldest son who was 7 years old at the time saying that he had done some things to my younger two children. He eventually admitted that he lied about all of it because he thought that it would be cheaper to raise his children than pay child support also CPS found no evidence to support his claims and eventually everything was dropped. My 11 year old was too young at the time that all this happened so he can't really remember any of what had happened. When he'd kidnapped them it took me 3 months to get them back, he took them out of state and the state of Idaho doesn't recognize that is kidnapping unless there is some type of court order in place but we hadn't gotten that far yet since we had literally just separated. So after three months of fighting for my children I got full custody and he got partial visitation but during those three months him and his girlfriend who he'd only been with for 6 months by this time constantly told my children that they would never see me again and we're trying to convince my younger two boys that their older brother did things to them but they don't remember any of it so it was a very traumatic experience for both of my children. Sorry if this doesn't make a whole lot of sense it's just there's so much and it would literally take forever to explain it all. My middle boy seemed fine and still to this day seems fine never had any issues with the whole situation but he was also old enough to understand everything that was going on and didn't believe anything that his father and girlfriend told him. However my younger boy started to have nightmares a few months after I got him back and when he would explain these nightmares to me it literally was the things that had happened to him while he was with his dad and girlfriend. He thought they were just bad dreams he didn't realize that these things actually happened to him and at that point that is when he started to soil himself. I immediately sought counseling for both of my children because of the experience that they had and the counseling seem to work for my youngest for a little while but then it just wasn't enough. He then started going to the bathroom in his pants at school in the car when we're driving somewhere and every time he would never say anything to me about needing to go to the bathroom. He then started having behavioral issues anger issues both at home and at school. I then got him into not just counseling through the school but also had him start seeing a psychiatrist twice a week. None of it ever seemed to help. I've taken him to the doctor we've had X-rays done we've had lab work done to determine if this was a medical issue which I knew it wasn't but we needed to rule it out. As somebody else said in another post on this thread he started to try and hold it as long as he could and then started to become constipated all the time and bowel movements were so large that his colon is now stretched. Eating became one of his coping mechanisms with everything that he was trying to deal with and so he ended up gaining some weight and I had to start monitoring what he would eat and how often he would eat and eventually he was able to lose that weight and I still have to keep an eye on him when it comes to eating because the second I turn around I'll be right back in the kitchen trying to eat something else. I put him on a fiber diet which didn't work very well he then stopped eating because he didn't like the food that I was feeding him so I decided to put him on fiber chewables instead and then make sure that the food that I buy is not high in fat and sugar that way we don't have the same issue again because obesity and diabetes runs very badly on his father's side of the family. As far as the behavioural and anger went I wanted to try anything and everything that I could before I resorted to putting him on any type of medication but after 3 years it just seemed like it was time. This last November he was put on Fluoxetine, he started on 10 milligrams and eventually was moved to 20 milligrams. Believe It or Not My Child now wakes up in a good mood and his anger and behavioral issues have subsided drastically. however he is still soiling himself on a regular basis and it's gotten to the point where he can no longer spend the night at his friends can no longer stay here because I don't want him to ever be made fun of and what not. Through counseling and talking to my son myself we've come to find out that he just does it and doesn't care. I finally had to start grounding him from all of his favorite things until he started taken responsibility for his actions. One of the punishments that he has is he has to hand wash his soiled Underpants because I cannot put them in my washing machine like that and at this point I have spent so much money on new underwear that I'm just tired of spending it. When he first started washing his own Underpants it did seem to help for a while and he was doing it less. however he just went right back to doing it again he says he just does it and doesn't know why. He doesn't try to hide it from me and he has gotten to the point where he will now shower just about every time it happens. I think it's been happening so long that it's just become a part of who he is and I don't know what to do anymore. His father has never been a part of his recovery process and will not admit that the things that he tried to do and the things that he did do when he kidnapped him and his brother were the cause of his issues. My son was diagnosed with chronic PTSD depression and anxiety disorder. Sadly his father has court-ordered visitation rights and the state of Idaho will not allow him to sign his rights over because this is the No Child Left Behind state. his father cancels just about every visitation does not conversate with his children at all he does not call he does not send them cards letters anything. The courts still will not drop the visitation and their father does not understand that he is doing more harm than good to his boys by not being a constant figure in their life. So I know that until he feels like he is loved by both parents that this is just going to keep happening. So I keep a log of all the visitation and phone calls that their father makes and cancels and how long can goes in between visitations and phone calls. This way if I do end up having to go back to court again I can prove that no matter what the courts try and force on him he is not going to do. Thankfully I have a loving husband who treats my children like his own and we've just recently found out that if my husband were to adopt my children we could get their father to sign over his rights legally but my children don't want that they want their father. Which is very understandable and hopefully when they get a little older and they might see what he's been doing and decide that they no longer want him to be a part of their life but until then I just I have to keep my mouth shut because it's never good to talk bad about a parent to their child. If anybody out there has any suggestions as to what may help other than what I've already done for my child I would be greatly appreciative for the input.
My 9 year old keeps pooping himself. He can be in the house just downstairs watching t.v. and will not get up to go to the bathroom. He has been to the doctor's and there is nothing wrong with him. But this just keeps happening.
What kind of doctors has your nephew been too.
Has he seen a therapist and a gastroenterologist. Mental and Physical. Is there a lot of fiber in the diet, and maybe it's time for a colonoscopy, to make sure the pipes are looking how they are supposed to be looking, plus they can do some biopsies, during the procedure, and test some of the bacteria in the intestines, and maybe an endoscopy for the stomach as well.
My brother soiled himself from around 3 years of age, up until he was around 16 years of age when he had the A.C.E procedure,
"The Antegrade Continence Enema or ACE is a way of managing bowel emptying at a convenient time each day, and should reduce both constipation and soiling episodes. The procedure involves sitting on a commode or toilet whilst a washout is given through a small opening or stoma on the abdomen."
He finally had it reversed after about 3-4 years of treatment, and now functions normally - in the bowel department.
We initially thought it was laziness, causing severe constipation and leaking, however I now after a lot of research believe it's caused by ADHD, all due to an answer to another post I found
The link in the answer on the post didn't work so I took to google and found this,
I was diagnosed with ADHD on 29th of January 2016 just before my 29th birthday in March, I'm the younger sister, by 2 years, I believe my brother has undiagnosed ADHD, I have also been diagnosed with Autism, as has my nephew, and Hyperactivity and Autism have the same cause, as per what I found here,
So if you haven't already looked at the possibility, that the child/adolescent soiling themselves has ADHD, I think you should check this out, it may help :)