sb ...and don't mind what you write whether or not I feel it is wrong. Peace and may someone else post here too.
I am not confused, and don't mind what you write even if it is wrong. I just correct some of what you say I have said. Anyway, maybe someone else will write their opinion here about the future which is why I started this thread.
",,Again.... vaccine will never confer herd immunity because it doesn't confer immunity long enough,..." You misinterpreted my comments, again.
"head of the CDC saying wearing a mask and social distancing would be as effective as a vaccine" Yeah those 2 might do the job except for the problem that many people won't do those things. Only forced fixes like mass vax imposed by buildings or companies will get massive numbers of unconcerned carriers out of the way enough that vax, masks and sd can together do an effective job.
The NFL has proven that frequent mass testing of the players only goes so far in preventing transmission, with 22 Tennessee Titans recording 16 positives in the last week, but these players are in a high risk close contact setting and only requires an individual or 2 to be careless when venturing into the the public which is in the midst of a pandemic with many people in the general population shedding virus not even knowing it in many cases.
If mass temperature testing and rapid test results can be put in place in high traffic areas in the US, it seems lots of infections wouldn't be occurring. Preventing large infections from happening by mass testing helps create the same sort of effect as herd immunity although it would require a big rollout to get to that point. The flu vax ability to wipe out a flu strain for the current season depends on a large % of the people taking the shot to become immune to the disease and create herd immunity at some point if enough people bought into the concept to do it - someday maybe that will happen - and mass testing might provide enough help for the vax to get to that point.
You refer to outdated failed quick test technology which is irrelevant since the scientific world advances technology, instead of sitting on dead tech ideas forever- I referred to the newer tech the FDA is reviewing. No idea what this is about " also don't actually tell you the person isn't infected, just that it's not at the point yet where it registers on a test. " -
Getting the 80 - 85% of people who have symptoms would be a big improvement and stop them at the point they are interacting with others on the job etc. so people would feel safer on the job etc. I agree it isn't going to solve it on its own but would make a big dent in the spread including helping contact tracing because people would get identified for testing faster. https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/09/23/4-out-of-5-people-with-COVID-19-develop-symptoms-study-says/7151600811291/
Companies are working on developing fast temperature checks for mass temperature readings in high traffic areas. The ones I looked at have a portal you walk through like an airport scanner or at least walk past and the owner of the space would get a notice that a feverish person walked in. Some people will get angry when they get detected so I can see calling in the police in those cases.
This would catch a lot of infected people (even those that might have tested negative earlier in the day) and like the potential rapid scanners (in development because they are targeting high accuracy) would force people to be tested if the building set them up at the entrances - if you want in, you have to go through the test.
These are the only 2 ways I can see of stopping Covid transmission from the many people who don't care about others. Until the infection ends, the gym is not on my list of safe places.
Just saw a report that compares flu symptoms with covid symptoms. Pretty much the same, including fever, but where covid really differs and tells docs it's covid is the difficulty breathing, chest pressure that goes along with that, and the loss of taste and smell. Those are the dead giveaways.