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Suicide.

By the name of the title, I've already got your attention. I have a question but you already knew that.
What makes suicide wrong? I've attempted before and I might not attempt again but seriously, what's so wrong about it? If I want to die, shouldn't it be my choice?
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I had a reason before but my words were twisted and used against me. My family absolutely hated me so I felt the need to be free.
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I know that it leaves a terriable scar on others and that's why I can't do it. I can't leave the ones I love because I would be causing them more pain than what I started with :/ I'll stay strong for them.

Thanks for all the encouraging words.
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What's wrong with suicide is what it does to those left behind.
I suppose if someone were completely alone with no family or friends and they were unable to cope with their pain, it might be an option, but only if they've tried everything to relieve their sense of hopelessness.

I've suffered with depression for several years, now. I've tried talking with psychologists and a psychiatrist.
The psychiatrist prescribed group therapy for me, which backfired. I can't stand being in a group of people. I'm ok with one or two other people, but after that, I'm not.

My 33 year-old son ended his life in 2008. Knowing firsthand how it effected those who he left behind, I know I can't do that to my friends and family, no matter how miserable I might feel.

As others have suggested, I would say that your best bet is to seek counseling. Don't give up.
Good luck.
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I'm extremely grateful and I really do appreciate the help. At school i feel as if it is obvious that I'm more depressed than I was.....
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6726276 tn?1421126668
You've gotten some great advice here. I hope this is helping you understand your feelings better. I had it rough at home too. Not much love in the household. Lucky I was permitted to live with my grandparents whom I learned most of my life lessons from in childhood. Then I lived with my Aunt who really knew how to show love and appreciation.
  Not all parents are good at showing love. Sometimes you have to be just more appreciative for the little things they do to try and make a nice home for you. If there are any relatives in the picture, maybe you can spend a summer with them.
  There are also exchange student programs worldwide. You may want to discuss options with a school councilor.  All the best. Maxy
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1980932 tn?1335108263
I am at the other end of life to you. Losing my dearly beloved wife some 2 1/2 years ago made me a high risk for suicide. Having become more religious as time goes by, I find that I am between a rock and a hard place in as much as I dearly want to be with my wife, the only way that is possible is through suicide. I am Christian and it is not allowed. The reason for the foregoing was to prepare you for the following story. One lady whom I know was taken ill with a heart attack. She had great pain in the ambulance. The suddenly the pain went and she felt herself floating and weightless. There was a light at the end of a tunnel and people whom she knew. People who had died, and said to her its not your time yet. The next thing that happened was she was jolted back into life and heard the Paramedic say, thank god we have got her back. Conversely another woman committed suicide, or tried to. Having told her that story she replied, yes I felt myself floating away without a care in the world but it was dark and I felt no emotion, but saw no one. She was revived at Hospital. The line I wish to draw is by committing suicide it is the end of the road with nothing to follow, to die naturally brings in eternal life. God Bless you and try to focus your mind on positive things,
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I have had that question before an I undrstand how you feel.  Nobody attepts suicide for attention,that is true.
However, it is known that a person who attempts suicide is asking for help.  There is a fine line between attention seeking and asking for help.
Like I told someone else.  A lot of times suicidal ideation stems from a desire to have control.  No matter what we do not have control and that is just life.  We can make decisions but we cannot control anything.  If you are supposed to die than a suicidal attempt may turn out to be an accidental success.  A man was found hanging with claw marks on his neck where he tried to save himself.  That is one thing to remember....
Sometimes people accidently succeed at killing their self.
Many others have created disabilities (physical and mental), including serious damage from attempting suicide.
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But that is a reason to seek counseling, not to avoid it.  Nobody attempts suicide "just" for attention.  If you need help, get it, or it won't be gotten.
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I would look like an attention seeker because a couple of years ago I attempted Suicide and now my family thinks I just did that for attention
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I don't understand why seeking help would make you look like an attention seeker.  Would you think that if your illness was the flu?  Or cancer?  Like those diseases, if you let any disorder fester it gets worse, which makes you less able to be of the most help you can for your siblings.  You need to advocate for yourself; your best self is the best help to those you love.  Peace.
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I was in therapy a couple of years ago but I'm not anymore. I can't ask my gaurdians to take me because that will make me look like an attention seeker.....I live for my siblings and I feel as if that's the only reason worth living for.
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Suicide is though of differently by different people and different cultures.  For most of recorded history it hasn't been thought of as wrong at all, but very dependent on the situation.  Western religions are against it morally, but most Eastern religions aren't, but again, only if the conditions are right.  In some cultures, that would be dishonor or failure or a disease that can't be remedies.  None of which applies to you.  For one thing, you're way too young to even suspect you're stuck in this for the long term.  My biggest question for you is, are you in therapy?  Have you tried to figure out why things bother you so much?  After all, for most of us, it's not the actual circumstances that are so terrible, it's how we think of them.  Good luck.
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How can one feel so alone but yet be surrounded by loved ones?

i believe that robin williams asked the same question.
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Absolutely it should be everyone choice in my opinion.  No one knows the true suffering of another persons mind and or body and or soul or whatever. But you are alive so i would rack my brains trying to figure out how to "get happy" whatever that may mean for you      i asked myself the same question   it made me angry that i coudnt    its just not socially acceptable  and most ppl on the planet dont want to kill themselves and they feel like they are saving ppl by forcing them to live everyday miserable .... so u are absolutely right about that  in my opinion.

  

Listen tho Lily   you dont know me   i dont know you    but i personally would  rather you take the hard road and time to get your self better or maybe even at all     you make think you know yourself quite well actually and that u see ppl for who you are   but you have no  clue or maybe you do   maybe you really do have a good perspective and you do know yourself  but  judging by the 5 sentences that you sent you are a very deep and inteligent person   you are not a simpleton  you are not mundane     id be happy to chat with you more    ive tried to kill myself prob 10 times by the way      and for the past 1 year and a half i can tell you that i dont even have those thoughts cross my mind anymore      they went from labeling me in a physc ward (and i was in and out of them) as sckhitzo effective or however u spell it    to now telling me im completly "normal" or whatever they tell you when they dont think you need any mental help        talk to me if you need to  
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Thank you,
I can't do much for I am just a child. My family thinks of me as a attention seeker and I apologize for being one. I wouldn't consider myself suicidal, but yet i know if I went in to a doctors office I would probably be. I'm too weak for suicide. I have so much that I'm thankful for but I feel as if I'm being smothered and yet I'm so alone. How can one feel so alone but yet be surrounded by loved ones?
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If you want to know why suicide is no good, simply take a moment and think back on what you consider a good day for you.  Go there, check out the smells, any people's expressions, or if it's a motorbike or pet, why, go to these parts of your day and find out why it's such a good memory.  Now, I will tell you this:  ALL days can be just like that one, if you can learn how to overcome strife, troubles, bad weather even, you know, as examples.

Now, what happens to a suicidal person is, they do not think they will ever feel good again.  Hope leaves.  A person becomes bereft of all emotion.  They just want it to STOP, all the sadness, lack of motivation, anger, crying, the whole mess to STOP.  That's all.  Nobody wants to die.  They want their depression to quit bothering you.  You can put a name on it:  Depression to the max.  Severe depression.

Depression can come from a number of things, the main of which is a tragedy or personal trouble or physical challenges; then there are side effects of medicines; then depression can also be a clear sign of an illness as yet uncovered.  So, become proactive for yourself.  Become your own agent for recovery.  FIND your happiness.  It may be hard to find, but it is indeed there.  So, the clue here is:  Go to your physician, and if you don't have one or cannot afford one, make it a start to go to the State Department of Social Services in your town, a free clinic, or a very small payment based on your work, all is kept private, no one knows.  Just take a day off when the weather improves, and go as a Walk-In.  Or you can call a physician of any kind, Internal Medicine doctors are the best at diagnosing.  Make this your number one effort.

You see, a doctor can give you medicines to tide you over until you can find out if you need a psychiatrist to talk with, or you need some help with your thyroid that for some reason is amiss with the remnants of a bad cold, or you've got a little build-up of bad events that you cannot express and so you need to deal with it, or just you're sick.  Different disorders can make you sick.  Medicines can.  Drugs most definitely can.  The wrong partner or mate or friend can make you depressed.  But the facts are these:  Feeling depressed is NOT NORMAL, and you are entitled and supposed to feel GOOD.  Me, I have treatment for an illness with my adrenals, and I have remnant sadness from some major points in my life that load me down with guilt, and just listing this stuff makes me feel kinda bad.  But I got treatment, so I'm okay with it, on the whole.

Suicide is wasting life.  And in my world and in the world of people who are not sick with depression, life is just SO fine and you feel plenty of hope and you can talk to a psychologist or social workers and get things worked out for yourself.  A checkup can be done by a doc at the same free clinic, and he can draw blood, ask you a few questions, and just look at you, listen to your heart, and he'll have some ideas of what might be causing it.  And I'm a'tellin you the truth, ONE DAY you will thank me and anyone else on here who tells you it's not okay to cut your life short.  

Life is long, filled with challenges, I sometimes think we are to learn, but there are times for EVERYONE when either through tragedy, to a sickness, you can feel so depressed that you want to end it all.  It's not that you want to die; it's that you want the bad feelings to stop.  I mean, let's say you were in a war, and you were a long ways from base, and you were wounded very badly and you were cold.  But worse comes to terrible, and you are captured, you are beaten terrible, and thrown into a small room with no window, no bed, a rag for a cloak, and that's it.  You don't know how long you'll be there or when you'll be free.  Now, THAT'S depression.

But we all get rescused.  We all get better.  We all get past it.  And the reward is a wonderous life, for our earth has so much to enjoy, other like-minded people are just waiting for you to meet them, love is all around you, flowers bloom in spring, you aren't cold anymore, you get warm and happy and full of a nice meal, and watch the sun set off a nice porch in a place you arranged to live in, and you're in school or enjoying your work, and you have some pets and family to be with, who love you back just because.

So, if you're trying to JUSTIFY doing away with yourself, well, don't you think that shows you you don't know NOTHIN about no suicide, do you?  You don't know what's around the bend.  But it's better to know.  It's better to forget about understanding death is no answer, but rather an ending of your whole life.  But if your life were pleasing, wouldn't you want to keep it?  Just because you didn't know how to ride a horse, if you liked them, wouldn't you try to learn?  Life is like that.  You gotta learn how to ride it out.

There's plenty of docs, clinics, psychs, medicines (yum, yum, some are good but safe), there's help for you out there, my friend.  You're MY friend because you came here.  And you're CRSeaside's friend, because you came here.  You came here because you know it's the stupidest and silliest and the easy way out of a very complex set of emotional crashes.  You got to get over yourself and regain control by ASKING FOR HELP.  There's even a crisis hotline right in the front of your phone book that will give you a number to call, or you can find them in the white pages in alphabetical order, or you can call your local hospital, and tell them you are considering suicide.  Help will arrive in the voice of someone on the other end of the line, just like I'm here.  And I'm here to tell you if you will seek out help, make that your NUMBER ONE idea of what to do instead of an ugly, unretractable suicide, for crying out loud!  

So, what you gonna do this coming week?  What you gonna do today about it?  I'll tell you again.  TODAY, since it's a weekend, you're going to do one or both of two things:  Call the Crisis Hotline, and/or call or go to the nearest hospital ER.  Then during the week, as soon as you can get out (we've had snow all over the country), go to your local State or County Department of Social Services, the Health Department section, it's a free clinic, you can get walk-in care THAT DAY in most instances!  Imagine, you could walk out of your house on Monday, and on that day, you will get help, some medicines, some tests, people who care about you with you, to hold your hand and help you.  And today and tomorrow,  you can call the Crisis Hotline and see what they have to say, just stay on the phone with them for awhile.

In meantime, clean up your act.  Do some laundry, set a timer and put in a frozen meal, pick out a TV show to watch, brush your hair, talk to your doggie or call a friend.  Do, do, do.  Then watch some TV, get your fav reading stuff out, and watch and read during commercial, snuggy up, draw curtains, lock the door.  Get you some snacks handy and a soda pop, just whatever you like so you don't have to get up too much for a couple hours, so you can just REST.  Empty your mind of all concerns.  Whatever it is, it CAN WAIT.  So, are you ready?  Now, get ready, get set, GO!

P.S.  Come back ASAP and tell us what you did, and we'll come back ASAP and respond.  Someone is always at this website, too, so talk at us and we'll talk at you, best as we can.  
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6726276 tn?1421126668
Hi Lilly, there's 2 things I guess. It's illegal. It's against most Religions.
I think people think it's wrong because they believe it to be unnatural.
Animals strive to live. If people don't then it is assumed something has gone wrong in their brain, causing an unnatural emotion. I think you can't drown yourself for example. The body will force it's way to the top to seek air, no matter what your intention was.
  
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