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Diet for diabetes

Hi,my father has diabetes.last week his report was RBS 270 .It was tested evening time.whats the risk and what diet he need to follow? is it type 1 or type 2.what fruits can he able to eat?can he eat brown rice or wild rice?
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That's very helpful for me.  Thank you.
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231441 tn?1333892766
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The 'conventional' diet recommended for persons with diabetes is high carb, with up to 65% of calories coming from carbs.

Such a diet can make blood sugar control very difficult (need a lot of insulin to cover so much carb, and blood sugar likely to go high and low).  Also as mentioned previously there is no such thing as essential carbs.  Such diet will also make weight loss very difficult.

Lots of Carbs = Lots of Insulin. Insulin promotes fat storage.  So the more insulin you need / use, the more fat you will store and the harder it will be to lose weight.

Much more effective diet followed by many with diabetes and also minimizes insulin requirement is low carb.

Some say as low as 35 g/day.  Others allow up to 60 g, others up to 100g.  Depends on how well your blood sugars are controlled.  Essentially such a diet allows unlimited green and non-starchy vegetables as the main source of carbs.  Some carbs can also come from dairy such as cheese and nuts.  Quality proteins approximately 1 g / kg bodyweight are recommended, and non-processed natural fats  in sufficient quantity such that you are no longer hungry.

For a 80kg lightly active person, needing 2400 calories/day man this may mean -

60 g of carbs x 4 cal/g = 240 calories (mainly coming from non-starchy veges)
80 g of protein x 4 cal/g = 320 calories (fish, chicken, nuts, eggs)
200 g of fat x 9 cal/g = 1,840 calories (olive oil, cold pressed nut oils, butter, cream, animal fats, avocado, cheese, etc).

Such a diet may give dramatically better blood sugar results.
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A diet many diabetics fallow is "Eat to Your Meter"  get a BG meter, test before you eat. test 1 hour after and 2 hours after.  Keep a record of food and BG.  Once you know what the food does you can test less often.   Depending on age and other factors, most people do not want to see a rise of more than 40 pts (USA)  and not higher than 140 (USA numbers).

Google "eat to your meter"
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I e-mailed the diabetes education nurse at Joslin Diabetes Center and she responded that a weight loss diet has to be customized for the person.  So poster diabetes86 is correct that there is no "diabetes" diet.

For your father, you should look for a diabetes program (free if possible) that will show him (and you) what to eat, how much  and how often.  There is literature to read and make note of.  It is a process, so expect to do the work required to get informed and help your father adjust to his new reality.

Good luck.
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"Lots of diabetics control there BG with low cab diets."  

This is my point: carbs must be included in a healthful diet.

The diabetes education nurse at my HMO told me to include 3 carbs PER MEAL each day.  I found that hard to believe so I asked the endocrinologist who confirmed that statement.

I attend monthly support group mtgs at Joslin Diabetes Ctr within Doctors Community Hosp in MD so I have more than enough literature on the subject of diabetes and healthful eating but not on weight loss.
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Thank you.  This was somewhat helpful in that ADA lists foods that are recommended but does not offer a meal plan for weight loss along the lines of the Scarsdale Diet, the Mayo Clinic, etc., which diets eliminate all carbs.  Even Dr. Atkins strongly advised against staying on his diet plan long-term for the same reason:  no carbs.

I visited Weight Watchers and inquired about their plan for diabetics and was told there is an extra cost because their instructors have to take additional training.  I even went to a bookstore to purchase the WW book which was the size of a phone book!

My HMO has a nutritionist who never returned my calls; she even ignored the e-mails from the diabetes education nurse urging her to get in touch with me.

If anyone has a daily menu plan for diabetics seeking to lose weight, please let me know.

Thank you.
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Dont know where you got we "MUST" eat carbs.  simply aint true.  Lots of diabetics control there BG with low cab diets.  also known as a ketogenik diet.

Go to Harvard medical school and look up "essential nutrients "  essential nutrients are ALL the nutrient we need to live.  they dont list carbohydrates for a very simple reason our body make carbs we dont need to eat them.

just because you hear "we need carbs" ...   a lot,  does not make it true.
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559053 tn?1274913374
Google "food: american diabetes association". This ADA website covers food & fitness: what you can eat, planning meals and recipes. At the bottom of the page you will find a link devoted to weight loss, plus more.
HTH
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Seeking a weight-loss diet for diabetics is also my goal.  However, I found your explanation a bit choppy and indecipherable.  For example, type 2's must eat carbs; it is inadvisable to cut them out of a healthful diet for diabetics.

Does anyone have a proven weight-loss diet for diabetics?
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There is no "diabetes" diet

Many diabetics fallow the "eat to your meter diet"  (Google it)

Test before you eat test 1 hour after you eat if your BG goes up more than 40 Pts (US) (2.3 for the rest of the world) you eat too many carbohydrates.

carbohydrates raise BG ALL carbs raise BG

If he is T1 (type 1) he has to take insulin.  (some T2 take insulin too)
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