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How high causes heart or kidney disease?
How high does blood glucose have to be to cause serious problems? Over 300? What if it spikes over 200 for a few days and then you get it back within good limits? If you occasionally eat the wrong thing that spikes your blood sugar is that a reason to go from pills to insulin?
Thanks for the great post. Your so right about not eating right spiking the sugar. You can't always get patients to do as they should. I know that the person I am talking about keeps at good levels if he eats properly. I was curious if anyone knew how high and how long at high levels before you are in big trouble as with diabetic coma. Unfortunately ther are some nasty sorts who like to offer smart remarks about things they really know nothing about. I know people who have gone to the hospital with high sugar and never came out alive because they could not get it under control....I am not real certain of the point where thta can happen. and thought maybe someone in here might know from life experience.....I suppose I should not be so lazy and research it for myself. Thanks for the nice post.
Not being a Medical person, I can only comment on what has happened to me. My blood level spikes periodically, however I can honestly say that most times it has been because of incorrect eating. The last time this happened to me my level was 574. (had never been that high before) The Advice Nurse I phoned insisted that I come to the Emergency Room where I was given 2 shots of Insulin to bring my level down. I was there for hours.
My physician did not put me on Insulin but rather sent me to an Endroconologist who required that I begin taking Byetta. I believe that this med does not act like Insulin but it did take away the grand appetite which I suffered. I am now losing weight and my blood levels are pretty good on the whole. Unfortunately one can only take this med if you take a certain type of Pill medication (I believe there are only 3).
I hope this helps with your question. I know that I am very satisfied with my results on this medication. Also, I have suffered Kidney problems ever since I was told that I was Diabetic years ago. This began when my blood levels were in the 100 - 115 range, so I believe that one must take the advice of your Physician AFTER you have had tests on your Kidneys. I am unsure, but I follow my Doctors advice as well as looking for information on the net. (WebMD is a good site)
One last thing - only your doctor can tell you if you need the Pills or Insulin. It is always your choice whether or not you agree and choose to follow their advice. I had an Uncle who was also diabetic. When his Kidneys failed his doc wanted him to go on Dialysis, he refused. Later that year he passed, but then again he was already 95 years old.
Good Luck and please keep us posted. Anita
My physician did not put me on Insulin but rather sent me to an Endroconologist who required that I begin taking Byetta. I believe that this med does not act like Insulin but it did take away the grand appetite which I suffered. I am now losing weight and my blood levels are pretty good on the whole. Unfortunately one can only take this med if you take a certain type of Pill medication (I believe there are only 3).
I hope this helps with your question. I know that I am very satisfied with my results on this medication. Also, I have suffered Kidney problems ever since I was told that I was Diabetic years ago. This began when my blood levels were in the 100 - 115 range, so I believe that one must take the advice of your Physician AFTER you have had tests on your Kidneys. I am unsure, but I follow my Doctors advice as well as looking for information on the net. (WebMD is a good site)
One last thing - only your doctor can tell you if you need the Pills or Insulin. It is always your choice whether or not you agree and choose to follow their advice. I had an Uncle who was also diabetic. When his Kidneys failed his doc wanted him to go on Dialysis, he refused. Later that year he passed, but then again he was already 95 years old.
Good Luck and please keep us posted. Anita
I think Dot was referring to your previous post about kissing your behind, Madge. It looks like MedHelp took offense to it and removed your post.
I, as a forum member, dislike seeing post of that nature and wish everyone would stick to diabetes related information and set personal grievances aside.
I, as a forum member, dislike seeing post of that nature and wish everyone would stick to diabetes related information and set personal grievances aside.
Thank you for a very intelligeny response. I appreciate your taking the time to reply. I was trying to get some responses from people who actually have had to deal with this disease over time, and you were kind enough to reply. I think they can add nastiness as a symptom for diabetes from the other responses I read. Very sad.
If ONLY for the sake of others stumbling upon your question, I'll offer this (and sadly this thread seems to require this disclaimer: I am not a licensed medical professional, so nothing I 'say' here should be taken as advice, but instead should be viewed as my opinion):
I am not sure that anyone, and I mean ANYONE, (doctor, researcher, even fellow diabetics who have experienced heart and/or kidney disease) can say what blood glucose reading 'causes' or, in my opinion here, 'adds' to the developing of those complications.
That is a difficult question. If we're talking about Type II diabetes, then SOLELY upon my own understanding and self-education, it *usually* is the slow and steady and un-noticed increasing blood glucose levels over a number of years, perhaps even decades, before a person begins treatment for (or realizes they have, or is diagnosed as having) diabetes, that damage to all internal organs has taken place... in terms of 'how much' damage has happened and 'how long' before "bad complications" arise, it seems to be quite an involved question with many variables.... but it does seem that we can slow the progression of any complications with careful self-monitoring and careful lifestyle changes.
What we do SEEM to know, is that doing your best to maintain a healthy diet, increasing reasonable exercise/movement, and achieving/maintaining a 'healthy' weight (based on gender, height, and frame) does generally level out blood glucose and all that increases quality of life, and perhaps the closer one can get towards maintaining what is considered 'normal' blood glucose levels, the better one's life expectancy and general quality of life, and decreasing the risk of complications.
Not to be morbid, but my doc tells me that having diabetes already puts me in the risk factor set of "already having had a heart attack"... now, what that MEANS is a bit in question... and *I* think that depends a LOT on anyone's personal medical history, family history, and what they have done (and are willing to do) to monitor and control their own diabetes (self-testing, diet, exercise... oh, also not smoking, no alcohol [or *maybe* moderate intake... talk to your doc], and regular medical exams...)
Hey, life itself is a terminal disease, so we can choose to accept that or ignore that, but either way, it's up to each as individuals to make the most of it in whatever way we choose... so, not be crass, but, choose to be miserable, or choose to reach for possibilities and be positive and enjoy what you've got and try to improve upon it.
Overall, though, for Type II Diabetics, it really does seem that this is a 'manageable chronic condition' rather than a 'terminal' one... yeah, yeah, it DOES require some life adjustments (and maybe a lot of work depending on what you're 'usually' willing to do) and settling into a routine of self-testing, monitoring your diet, and general self-care, including inspecting your body, increasing activity, and *caring* for yourself.
Not sure this has helped you or anyone else, but I hope so...
I am not sure that anyone, and I mean ANYONE, (doctor, researcher, even fellow diabetics who have experienced heart and/or kidney disease) can say what blood glucose reading 'causes' or, in my opinion here, 'adds' to the developing of those complications.
That is a difficult question. If we're talking about Type II diabetes, then SOLELY upon my own understanding and self-education, it *usually* is the slow and steady and un-noticed increasing blood glucose levels over a number of years, perhaps even decades, before a person begins treatment for (or realizes they have, or is diagnosed as having) diabetes, that damage to all internal organs has taken place... in terms of 'how much' damage has happened and 'how long' before "bad complications" arise, it seems to be quite an involved question with many variables.... but it does seem that we can slow the progression of any complications with careful self-monitoring and careful lifestyle changes.
What we do SEEM to know, is that doing your best to maintain a healthy diet, increasing reasonable exercise/movement, and achieving/maintaining a 'healthy' weight (based on gender, height, and frame) does generally level out blood glucose and all that increases quality of life, and perhaps the closer one can get towards maintaining what is considered 'normal' blood glucose levels, the better one's life expectancy and general quality of life, and decreasing the risk of complications.
Not to be morbid, but my doc tells me that having diabetes already puts me in the risk factor set of "already having had a heart attack"... now, what that MEANS is a bit in question... and *I* think that depends a LOT on anyone's personal medical history, family history, and what they have done (and are willing to do) to monitor and control their own diabetes (self-testing, diet, exercise... oh, also not smoking, no alcohol [or *maybe* moderate intake... talk to your doc], and regular medical exams...)
Hey, life itself is a terminal disease, so we can choose to accept that or ignore that, but either way, it's up to each as individuals to make the most of it in whatever way we choose... so, not be crass, but, choose to be miserable, or choose to reach for possibilities and be positive and enjoy what you've got and try to improve upon it.
Overall, though, for Type II Diabetics, it really does seem that this is a 'manageable chronic condition' rather than a 'terminal' one... yeah, yeah, it DOES require some life adjustments (and maybe a lot of work depending on what you're 'usually' willing to do) and settling into a routine of self-testing, monitoring your diet, and general self-care, including inspecting your body, increasing activity, and *caring* for yourself.
Not sure this has helped you or anyone else, but I hope so...
"if I wanted a professional I would go to expert."
Phsychologist comes to mind harharharhar
Why laugh when you don't know the forum to post theoretical medical questions? Why is it when you say "I know exactly what I am doing" but offer nothing in return? Where are your comments/theories? Why is that madge? I don't understand why you're so offended at Wave's suggestion, perhaps you do need to seek an expert.
Well Madam. Medicine is not my fileld, within my knowledge ,and as have had type2 , I I could give simple answer. If have high glucose in blood, kidney works more than normal person ,to remove waste from blood, including waste from fat if get energy without insulin .
If have diabetes, unwanted fat into blood and liver, then damage the heart slowly.
If have diabetes, unwanted fat into blood and liver, then damage the heart slowly.
I know exactly what I am doing and I wanted other people to give me input....if I wanted a professional I would go to expert. I did not know you were the in charge person of this area hahahhaah
Wrong forum. You're asking patients to speculate on medical theory? Try posting on the Ask the Doctor forum, then repost the doctors answers here in this thread.
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