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Gastric Motility Disorders in Dogs
Has anyone here ever heard about this condition in ogs or has anybody here ever dealt with this condition. I'm in serious need of help and advice and I don't know where to turn anymore. Please any I love my dog so much since I can't have children he is my baby. A male Jackrussel with is only 5 years old
Hi guys. Just an update. Odis is been on bland dieet and I'm up to 40% on the RC but the high fat one I order new cans on Monday Morning and Tuesday and Wednesday. Not receiving any I phoned 2 other vets in the area and ordered thinking it was the vet I order from. It Saterday and I still haven't received any food. Is RC always so unavaible where you live aswell??? Just wondering because its been a week and I have not received any food... I phoned South Africa Royal canine this morning and told them about the situation and asked them if I could order direct from them bcos I'm not receiving odis food and I don't want to mess up his GI more. They said its a vet product and I told them again I placed an order on Monday they said they will look into it... In the meantime I back to just rice and chicken bcos there is no RC available...he stomach has still not seatled with introdution of RC so I don't know if this is a sign that I should feed him the RC and I did introduce it day by day into bland from last week saterday as I said I was up to 40% and now no food available.....
Hey...If you can get fresh pumpkin there, you can make your own...Small Pie pumpkins would be best to cook with.....However, it may not be pumpkin season where you live....Just a thought...Keep us updated and good luck to you both....Karla
Thanks guys. Also margot I hope your feeling beter... I only heard about the low fat one after I ordered this one the vet said I should use. I asked him to order it for me and he said I should use this one first they don't keep it on stock that properly why he will not exchange it for me. So I see how it goes just hoping it will not disrupt his tummy again been doing well on the bland diet but I know he can't stay on it for ever.... He also is taking lots of meds now with all the stuff for the kennel cough aswel I rather try and steam him than give him cough syrup only when it gets out of hand I give him some... But otherwise try to avoid more meds. It just for 10more days if all goes well. Only cleptomon that will be usd live long perhaps....
Thanks, Karla.
Totally agree on no kibble and don't know why the Vet suggested that with slow motility and a messed up GI tract. Too bad she can't get pumpkin. Didn't know about the RC foods, good suggestion and she us right, low fat. She still needs to be feeding small meals more often to give the stomach a chance to empty. I am hoping the Vet has diagnosed this right.
Just what they need, Kennel Cough!!!
Totally agree on no kibble and don't know why the Vet suggested that with slow motility and a messed up GI tract. Too bad she can't get pumpkin. Didn't know about the RC foods, good suggestion and she us right, low fat. She still needs to be feeding small meals more often to give the stomach a chance to empty. I am hoping the Vet has diagnosed this right.
Just what they need, Kennel Cough!!!
Your welcome....The one I've used was also the low fat one.....You should be able to trade the one you have for the other one....It shouldn't matter where you bought it.....Either a store or your Vet should switch them out with no problem...I would use the low fat one, too! Karla
Thank you Karla. Odis was at vet today again. He has kennel cough. The vet was at a lost when I told him about the stool he has been having. Started introducing the RC into his bland dieet tonite. Wil see how it goes... Also we do not get canned pumkin in SA know this from diaree he hade a couple of months back... The lady I met on Fb told me low fat foods... RC gastronal intestinal is high in fat I wil try it first ?et recommdation her dog also get RC GI but the low fat one... Will keep posting as it goes. Thanks so much...
I'm not familiar w/this disorder, but I do have some suggestions...I personally, WOULD NOT feed ANY dry food to your dog...It's much harder to digest!!!
Use your Royal Canin Intestional Diet...You said you bought 12 cans....The canned is perfect and is made to do what you need at this point......
You can change food at a later time, but for now, use the RC. You will need to feed it for a month or 2.....
I also would add 1 teaspoon of canned pumpkin to each meal....You want pure, canned pumpkin from the grocery store.....
Do not continue to switch foods.....The stools you are describing can be as simple as too many food changes without slow introduction of each...Stick w/only the RC and pumpkin and see if you get better results......Karla
Use your Royal Canin Intestional Diet...You said you bought 12 cans....The canned is perfect and is made to do what you need at this point......
You can change food at a later time, but for now, use the RC. You will need to feed it for a month or 2.....
I also would add 1 teaspoon of canned pumpkin to each meal....You want pure, canned pumpkin from the grocery store.....
Do not continue to switch foods.....The stools you are describing can be as simple as too many food changes without slow introduction of each...Stick w/only the RC and pumpkin and see if you get better results......Karla
A nother question. I usally pick up odis poop right away but this morning was a little crazy. Since feeding bland he's poop is a little orange supose its from the carrot. But when I went to pick it up now some of the orange hade gone a little green is this normal?
Sorry to hear about you been sick are you beter now? He just woke up coughing. I think it may be kennel cough from the hospital stay I'm steaming him now in the bathroom with exaluptus oil. I'm so scared about his interior wounds at operation site. So this was propebly it not an allergie. I just hope he is going to pull through this he has not even properly heal from the operation and now this.
Sorry, been sick so not checking often.
Glad you found someone dealing with this as she may have helpful information.
You might also check the Yahoo canine groups
Glad you found someone dealing with this as she may have helpful information.
You might also check the Yahoo canine groups
I just met a lady ob FB who's dog also has this disorder but he was diagnosed at 4months old. He is now 8years old so there's hope.
Thank you Margot. If heard about a lot of allergies in dogs never tought odis hade one but he was put on Z/D just before he was diagnosed with S-lupu but after that I thought that is was probebly the worms causing his symtoms. I do keep an journal since his allergies to bees started in 2012. He has really been through so much in his life but we always seemed to handel it day by day. I never felt the need to join a group or anything like that was always so intrested in feeding him home cooked but I was always to scared to do this because my vet never wanted me to. But lately I don't know what to give him to eat everything is causing something and I mean he needs to eat that is all I know but what is the question... I just wish we could change the FDA se mind about theire guidlines or what ever to produce pet food. I mean don't they now that pets as just as valuable as babies to some of us.... If only we could change theire minds but it inposible. He is still swallowing hard vet said he cortizone will help with that no coughing when he lays down anymore but when he barks at something he is still coughing ( not gagging)
Are you feeding chicken and rice and carrot? Anything else in there? Has he had chicken or carrot before? Anything is possible but I have never heard of a dog having an allergic reaction to that food. I am not a Hills fan but would probably feed that over the Pedigree but it has been a long time since I have looked at the ingredients in either. Don't have time now but may look it up later. The Hills might be easier on the stomach. Can you get Pro Plan there?
Was he coughing or gagging? Did that stop? Well, if nothing else, try fringing up his old food into a gruel, or very small pieces with some moisture and see what happens but, again, small amounts spread apart.
So sorry you are struggling with this. Start keeping a journal as to fiod, meds, stools, etc and you might see a pattern.
Was he coughing or gagging? Did that stop? Well, if nothing else, try fringing up his old food into a gruel, or very small pieces with some moisture and see what happens but, again, small amounts spread apart.
So sorry you are struggling with this. Start keeping a journal as to fiod, meds, stools, etc and you might see a pattern.
I phoned the vet and told him what was going on. He said I should use royal canine intetinal something he said it more expensive but it has pork in the first ingrients and I hade to take 12 cans and he does don't think its the meds. I looked it up and it has pork byproducts in first ingrient and also chicken and rice when I phoned back he said all product has chicken and rice in and that he already order it so I must take it. This is what I'm dealing with.....
Yes that is all he's eating. It could be the meds I did a experiment this morning he looked fine so I just gave him some food after about 20 min he started wheezing again. He does not have plastic bowls. After the last time a bee stang him he had a bad reation to the plastic bowl so he has a stainless steal water bowl and glass eating bowls, o no he just started coughing!!!! I don't know what to do anymore. Do u think hills is beter than pedigree maybe I should buy hills Z/d cans just to see awaile I know all the ingrients and I know its not a good food but I can't handel an allergie on top of everything els aswell. I don't none here are vets but sometimes it helps to get other owners opions and advice and I do appricate it it trail and error I realize that.
He may not need the extra water but would like to see him drinking a bit more. I can see you have a problem in regards to food availability and Vets. See if the one in Cape Town has a web site. Also, they might do a phone or mail consultation since you are so far away. You might check on that. Do you feed in plastic bowls? Yes, I would space out the feedings, like I said. If the Vet is right and this a motility disorder, you want to give the stomach time to contract and empty.
Are you just feeding the chicken,mice and carrots? Could be but I doubt it is the diet causing the spots.
If you are seeing spots around his mouth and he is wheezing, give the Vet a call as it may be a reaction to one of the meds. Keep an eye out fir any swelling of his face, mouth on tongue.
Feel bad for you, not an easy case and please do remember that we are not Vets but I don't feel I have given you any information that will hurt the dog. You know your dog best. Any questions, always consult your Vet.
I will see if I can get in touch with Karla to read this.
Are you just feeding the chicken,mice and carrots? Could be but I doubt it is the diet causing the spots.
If you are seeing spots around his mouth and he is wheezing, give the Vet a call as it may be a reaction to one of the meds. Keep an eye out fir any swelling of his face, mouth on tongue.
Feel bad for you, not an easy case and please do remember that we are not Vets but I don't feel I have given you any information that will hurt the dog. You know your dog best. Any questions, always consult your Vet.
I will see if I can get in touch with Karla to read this.
I know we get hills, eukunuba, hills but nonee of them have meat in the first ingrients.
Located in south africa. I read the reviews on the pedigree and I agree. I would rather feed him home cooked but not getting much info on my cell phone. Internet extreamly slow and there is so much conflicting information out there. I have been searching for a home cooked dieet for awail now but since neither my vet or the other vet will assist me it makes it even more nerve rekking. I also searched for an dog nutrienalist in south africa and only found one in cape town that is along way from where I say 12H. Regarding stool I'm also confused. I do through in some water about 1/4 cup when I blend the ingrients the water from the cooked chicken but he is not drinking a lot of water elswhere he maybe takes a sip after meal but maybe one or 2 sips but that's it. He also urienens after every meal. He is also wheezing a lot tonite. And he has some red spots around his mouth I don't know if he is allergic to the bland dieet. I'm now feeding 3T every 3 hours instead of 2T every 2hours. To see how much his tummy can handle. It like I said in the epi forum the other day that is only the only thing I hate about living in south africa it hard to get petcare at afforable prices I don't mind spending money on my baby and its not like I can't afford him but the last couple of months has taking a lot out of me emotionally I also hade to take out a lone for the operation and everything. But not complaining I still have enough money to buy him good food just not sure what to get as we are very limited on dogs foods. And on days like this I feel hopeless because I don't feel he is inproving. And don't know if this is just ment to be or if I'm doing everything wrong I'm just trying my best and the vets are really not much of help.
Well, you have to decide whether to listen to your Vet. The plastic stool is probably mucus from the irritated intestine. Pedigree is not a good food. Where are you located? Nit sure what foods you have available. Was his stool firm or loose? If it were me, I would still stick with the bland diet at least through the week. If you want to try kibble, get a good food with either chicken or fish as the main ingredient. You can grind that down fine and add it half and half to the bland food. Again, feed "small" meals a few hours apart. His stomach is not emptying fast enough to give him a big meal. Many people feed home cooked but it does have to be balanced nutrition but you are ok on the bland diet for a few days to let his gut rest.
Don't know why there was so much water in the stool. I assume he is drinking ok.
I am no Vet, this is just what I would do. Try the meds he gave you and you will just have to wait and see how his body adjusts.
Don't know why there was so much water in the stool. I assume he is drinking ok.
I am no Vet, this is just what I would do. Try the meds he gave you and you will just have to wait and see how his body adjusts.
Also asked about vitamins and calsium he said I shouldn't feed homecooked. Because odis will not receive enought nutriention. I should rather go with pedigree if I'm scared about the husky. He doesn't sell these products so why why won't he recommend good foods to me. Sorry about my spelling and pharsing English is not my language for communicating frequently.
Hi he defecated 5 times and then there was water coming out of his anus about 15 times after that. I got so scared I took him it the vet. He is not worried he said his large intestinal is proberbly irrated. He said I can now start giving small kibble and pedigree if I'm worried about huskey. He took out his stiches gave me cortizones and metodizole. I asked about bland dieet he said not nesassary. I'm freakin out here and he says I can give kibble. I'm not a vet but what de devil. I don't feel my dog is oky and he doesn't seem to think there is anything wrong with plastic coverd stool. I'm I crazy what is your thoughts on this. I mean he said odis stomach is not contracting as it should and now he is saying I can start giving small kibble.
I wouldn't worry about that yet. You have a coveted patio or garage? If so, you might try putting shredded paper in one of those areas and keep taking him there and just wait a while. He may or may not go but he will have to pee sometime. Just relax.
Did you start feeding small amounts a few hours apart? His insides are all out of whack and need time to adjust to the meds and the diet. Hoping this will all work out.
Did you start feeding small amounts a few hours apart? His insides are all out of whack and need time to adjust to the meds and the diet. Hoping this will all work out.
He has not hade bowl movement since I started the bland dieet its raining outside and he hates the rain I put newspapers in the house and also I have one of those plastic grass mats which I cought some of his urine and put on the mat and newspapers but he still does not want to use them or go outside.
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