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Deep kissing, risk

Hi Doctor

Last Friday I engaged in deep French kissing with a girl. She recently dated an IV drug user for the last month and a half. On February 18th she tested negative via Oraquick mouth swab. My question is since I only engaged in open mouth deep kissing with her, should I be worried?  Today (days after exposure I have a mild sore throat.

I also had a split lower lip when we kissed. Along with two tiny holes behind each side of my top two molars (which I believe are my stanzaic ducts "saliva glands") Not sure if the virus can transit through these. She also bit my lower lip and neck when kissing. Thank you for your time and I'll await your response.
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Thanks Doc! I am recently engaged and made a mistake. I just wNt to make sure it's ok to continue unprotected sex with my fiancé without protection. It is ok correct? Thanks Doc and God bless. Hopefully you will return this simple "yes/no question" and I can move on. Thank you!
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239123 tn?1267647614
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This is not related in any way to HIV.

That's truly the last comment. Any more of this and the entire thread will be deleted.
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Doctor I was over this incident but I have ONE last question and I won't reply. I have. Tony white dot near the tip of my tongue. I was curious if this is a common symptom or not. It kind of hurts. Please helpeith this one last question. That's all I ask. Thank you!
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Sorry Doc. I appreciate the service you and Dr. Hook provide. My over anxieties were due to  recent post a few days ago that "foolishidiot" posted where you responded to a similar question as mine (deep kissing, cut on lip) where you said, "HIV is rarely if ever transmitted by kissing." When I noticed "rarely" does that mean it's happened? Don't mean to split hairs at all.
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239123 tn?1267647614
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See paragraph 2 of my last comment March 8.  This thread is closed.
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Hey Doc. I know you said it was no risk. After the 5-6 day post exposure "scratchy" sore throat, today (10 days post exposure) the right side of my throat kinda hurts. There has been some sickness going around, a lot of colds. But I know you said that ARS would start no sooner then 10 days. Any thoughts on this?
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Hey doc. Just wanted to mention really quick that the last 2 days (days 6-7 post exposure) my temperature rised a little bit and I have had a couple headaches that have come and gone. But my scratchy throat is completely gone.
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239123 tn?1267647614
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Even if your partner were known to have HIV, there would be no chance of transmission.   Your throat symptoms sound typical for a garden variety minor viral infection.  And you are correct about timing:  HIV symptoms cannot start sooner than about 10 days after exposure.

That will end this thread.  Don't keep overthinking it.  There is nothing you can say that would change my opinion that you don't have HIV or my advice that testing isn't needed.  It's time to move on.
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Thanks doc. I know I was probably overexaggerating about the PEP. I've just never done anything sexual with someone who has been with an IV drug user. So just to clarify, even "if" she had HIV I still wouldn't need to test, correct? And my throat is more of a scratchy feeling. Doesn't hurt to eat or drink. I'm not familiar with the severity of sore throat relates to ARS.

Also, I'm under the impression that a sore throat or any symptoms for that matter are too soon at 3 days? I have no other symptoms of any kind.
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239123 tn?1267647614
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PEP????   Good grief.  Did you even glance at my reply?  Do I really need to spell it out further?   (PS:  alienshadow is correct.)
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So you need have no worries about HIV and do not need testing for it on account of this event.  Don't worry about it.

Now that was his last sentence in the Drs reply... Dont let your Anxiety get the best of you.. You had no risk believe that....
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Thanks! Should I consider PEP on this account that the guy she was just previously with was an IV drug user? The saliva glands also appear to have little red holes but they aren't bleeding. Just that and the lip biting and cracked lip make me feel at great risk. Is there Any reason to consider PEP? It hasnt been 72 hours yet.
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239123 tn?1267647614
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See above; I saw this before I replied.
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239123 tn?1267647614
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Welcome to the HIV forum.

Responding to the title you chose for your question, plus the first line -- before I read anything else -- HIV is not transmitted by kissing.  Never happened, probably never will.  If that's your only potential exposure, there is no chance you caught HIV.

How I have read the rest.  Although HIV (and other STDs) are not transmitted by kissing, it's an excellent way for people to exchange garden variety colds and other respiratory viruses.  You may well have caught your sore throat from your kissing partner.  And no, HIV cannot infect by any kind of mouth exposure, including through the salivary ducts.

On top of all this, if you're in the US or other industrialized country, it is very unlikely your partner has HIV.  Even among the most sexually active, fewer than 1 in 1,000 heterosexual men and women have HIV.

So you need have no worries about HIV and do not need testing for it on account of this event.  Don't worry about it.

Regards--   HHH, MD
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*Today (3 days after exposure) I have a mild sore throat.
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