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HIV from deep French kissing
Hello,
I recently had an experience where my friends brother and I made out briefly. I am not sure of his status, if he had cuts or blood in his mouth or any canker sores/ulcers. I do not believe I had cuts in my mouth at the time but I do bite my cheeks frequently. Can I get hiv from this? Should I wait until the window period is over and be tested?
I recently had an experience where my friends brother and I made out briefly. I am not sure of his status, if he had cuts or blood in his mouth or any canker sores/ulcers. I do not believe I had cuts in my mouth at the time but I do bite my cheeks frequently. Can I get hiv from this? Should I wait until the window period is over and be tested?
You had no risk and a test would be a waste of time.
HIV is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead.
Only adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex
3. sharing needles that you inject with. Your situation is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. The above HIV science is 40 years old and very well established so there is no detail that you can add that will make any of your encounter a risk for HIV. No one in 40 years of HIV history got HIV from the situation you are concerned about so it is unlikely that it will happen in the next 40 of your lifetime either.
HIV is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead.
Only adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex
3. sharing needles that you inject with. Your situation is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. The above HIV science is 40 years old and very well established so there is no detail that you can add that will make any of your encounter a risk for HIV. No one in 40 years of HIV history got HIV from the situation you are concerned about so it is unlikely that it will happen in the next 40 of your lifetime either.
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Thank you! I guess I just have very bad anxiety.
Don't google for death or study your body and that will help relieve anxiety a lot. You have all the facts you need here, so leave it at that and enjoy your normal life.
Hi, I guess it just scared me because a friend told me her brother was infected this way and my mind just started going in all kind of directions. My anxiety is extremely bad & I knew it was just a kiss but my anxiety got so bad that I started thinking if maybe it was more & maybe I just didn’t remember but even my friends brother said it was just a kiss. I just hope I can get through this & do not end up sick :(
I have no idea why you believe your friend's brother as if he was a scientist. Seek therapy because your anxiety is a mental illness and your problem is not disease.
Thank you so much for your help!
Hello,
I am sorry to bother you again but should I be tested? I believe it was just a kiss but my paranoia has made me afraid that I did more. I swear all I remember was a kiss but I feel like I’m losing my mind & feeling all sorts of symptoms. I’m nauseous & have a headache.
I am sorry to bother you again but should I be tested? I believe it was just a kiss but my paranoia has made me afraid that I did more. I swear all I remember was a kiss but I feel like I’m losing my mind & feeling all sorts of symptoms. I’m nauseous & have a headache.
You need to talk to your doc or a therapist. This forum can't provide the one on one discussion that you need to deal with your anxiety and until you address that problem you will continue to suffer.
Thank you. I’m trying to get into a therapist but it is a long waiting list & I thought maybe testing would ease my mind but it’s only been 4 weeks.
Since you are not able to accept the science, then you are only accepting your own made up science. You will likely distrust the scientific test too.
Maybe reading a book about HIV anxiety will give you some helpful ideas until you see the therapist.
Yes I believe I need to become more knowledgeable on everything. I just started believing I did something more & it scared me, even though I know the truth. I went & got tested yesterday at 4 weeks & it was negative, should I wait again to retest because it was too soon or should I let it go?
That question was answered. You need to talk to your doc or a therapist.
Thank you. Sorry to bother you.
In case you missed it, the answer was in my first sentence in the first advice.
It’s just hard to believe but I’m going to force myself to. Thank you for your time.
Hello I am sorry to bother you again but I have been losing my mind lately thinking something more happened like maybe rape I can’t possibly remember. I was tested with the INSTI Rapid Test at 4 weeks then yesterday at 5 weeks & then I told them to send my blood to a lab to test with a 4th generation test. Do you think I will be ok? I am losing it & having thoughts of suicide. I’m afraid the results will be positive. Especially since I had symptoms like nausea, lightheadedness & a headache for about 2 weeks after the kiss or more.
Do you have a lot of anxiety in your life other than just this incident? Have you sought professional counselling.
No this is the only anxiety I have. I went to a counselor & she told me since I am making such a big deal of a kiss that it must have been something more like rape that I just cannot remember. I remember everything but she put it in my head that I must not remember something. Now I am thinking I am going to get a call saying I am positive next week when I get these results. Are the insti tests a good sign that I am not?
If your counselor actually suggested to you - a person who has totally irrational anxiety about HIV - that you had an unrecalled rape event, that counselor should be reported to the licensing board for malpractice, and I am deadly serious about that. Your counselor should be addressing your irrational thoughts, not be feeding them with even more irrational thoughts. People don't just get raped and routinely not remember it.
You aren't going to be HIV positive as you had NO RISK. Having suicidal thoughts is indicative of an urgent need for proper mental health care. You need more than a counselor at this point, and a visit to the emergency department may be warranted.
You aren't going to be HIV positive as you had NO RISK. Having suicidal thoughts is indicative of an urgent need for proper mental health care. You need more than a counselor at this point, and a visit to the emergency department may be warranted.
Thank you. I would like to report her too I just don’t know how. I guess she just thinks because I had a few drinks that night that I was roofied & did not remember being raped. But I drove home that night & remember everything, it was not until I spoke to her that I had those thoughts. I really do hope the rest comes back as negative because this is all ruining my life. I’m at risk for losing my job & I have dropped out of school.
Sister, i had the same worries. Its just killing our brain. No chance of infection in anyways other than penetrative sex. Stick to community leaders opinion
Hello, I thought I would share an update. The lab test I had was cancelled for some odd reason & I went in to take a insti test at 7 & 8 weeks-both negative. My question now is, can I get hiv from a blood draw at an hiv clinic? I did not see the test counselor remove the needle from the package & now I’m concerned again. Please help
There is no reason to share your tests results, because everyone but you knows you can't have HIV. This anxiety you have is a mental health problem and this HIV forum can't resolve that. You need to see the counselor again.
I’m sorry but this is my very last question & I am done-can the needles used at the hiv clinic for blood draws be reused? I am located in the United States if that makes a difference.
You need to see a counselor. Your questions are not ending because you have a mental health problem so that needs to be addressed.
Thank you so much for your time, patience & insight. What you do on this forum is wonderful. God bless.
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