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HIV from knife stab?

Hi. Can someone please explain to me how two men got hiv from a knife stabbing if it is said that hiv is it passed on from environmental surfaces? Is a knife not an environmental surface? I read about this incident on the Internet, unfortunately I don't remember the exact article or else I would post it here but I'm sure you can find it if you search for it on Google. So my question is if I touch blood on a doorknob with a cut on my hand it's not a risk for hiv infection right? But what is the logic behind a stab wound? I thought hiv could not be passed from object to human so why did one of the men in that knife fight get infected? Is the difference here between the severity of the wound? In that case what is the definition of a wound that can give you hiv? Please clarify this. Many thanks!
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A good amount of FRESH hiv infected blood is required for transmission of hiv from infected to non infected person AND EVEN IN THAT CONDITION IT SHOULD GO INSTANTLY AND IMMEDIATELY.......small little nicks and cuts wont give you hiv..
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Stabbing and cuts are two different things you need to be specific with your question a surface cut will not give hiv but stabbing would do only if it meets above criteria...
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IF THE KNIFE HAS ADEQUATE FRESH HIV BLOOD AND IF IT IS ALMOST STABBED INSTANTLY AND IMMEDIATELY IT POSES A WAY TO REACH BLOODSTREAM LEADING TO TRANSMISSION OF HIV
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No it is not a risk
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Sorry I'm confused. Do you mean no, it is not a risk? Or no it is not no risk, meaning there is a risk?
Please say it like "no risk"
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No it is not
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And touching hiv+ blood without any cuts or wounds is also no risk right? Last question I promise.
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You worry about 1 man from 2010 as it says 1st reported case ever. Which means very very rare. But with a knife it is shoved deep into the body...blood stream and organs and tissue. Deep inside the body.

And as you see from the first article it is no risk for little things like a cut on a hand.
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http://helpline.aidsvancouver.org/question/high-risk-kinfe-cut-pep

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http://www.poz.com/articles/Knife_Fight_Transmission_1_19283.shtml

Both these are links to what I read. They are from websites that deal with hiv. If what the articles say is true then how was this possible? Wouldn't the knife have been exposed to oxygen at some point so how did infection still occur?
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We can't speculate on something you say you read. You have no risk.
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