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I indulged in deep mouth kissing 3 times with an HIV positive male 18 days ago. There was no other sexual activity. About 10 days later i developed sores in my mouth.A large irregular sore about 1.5 cm and 3 or four tiny ones...i have searched the internet in great detail and they look like herpes sores on the roof of my mouth. Also node swellings in my neck.
I also am getting a rash off and on. But i dont have a fever or other flu like symptoms.
I am scared now that he may have had bleeding gums.I did also brush my teeth vigourously just an hour before we met...so am worried my mouth had cuts. I guess there is now one documented case of HIV transmission from kissing....what is my HIV risk??
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Thank you AnxiousNoMore for your patience with me!
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You had no HIV risk. You cant get HIV from kissing.
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I am worried his viral load may be high...and blood from his mouth may have entered cuts in my mouth
Hey I know you're very anxious right now but there is no risk there even if he were HIV positive and if you did have a cut. HIV is not transmitted by kissing there's just not enough transfer of blood involved. If you are still anxious get tested at the 28 day mark and I am confident you will test negative.

You don't assess symptoms with HIV but risks. And you had a no risk exposure with kissing.
Thanks so much...I have been very anxious and have lost weight from all the overthinking...fingers crossed now...another 10 days to go for my HIV test!
You had no HIV risk and a test will be a waste of time.  PEP would be a giant mistake and has side effects.

HIV is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead.  there is no need to put anything in your eye because any virus that landed in the eye is already dead.
Only adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex
3. sharing needles that you inject with. Knowing these 3 are all you need to know to protect yourself against HIV. Your situation is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. The above HIV science is 40 years old and very well established so there is no detail that you can add that will make any of your encounter a risk for HIV.  No one in 40 years of HIV history got HIV from the situation you are concerned about so it is unlikely that it will happen in the next 40 of your lifetime either.
You can get E coli from a hamburger and there are many documented cases of that - but you don't waste your life Googling E coli and testing after every meal so your HIV fears are irrational.
Thanks..that is very kind of you....reading your reply helped me calm down for a bit...
But i cant help freaking out a little...apparently there is one case of transmission through kissing that has been recorded and also mentioned on thebody website...maybe there are others that were never reported.
Sorry for being so adamant...I cant help thinking i may have got it..
Im pretty sure both of you need to have mouth wounds for that. And there'd also have to be so much blood involved you could practically taste it. The risk of getting HIV from kissing is only theoretical and not even close to being practical. People just dont contract HIV this way.
The CDC has commented on this by the way.

"We do not have data on the proportion of people who have been infected through French kissing alone, but we stress that this is likely to be none. The risk is theoretical and remote."
Thank you RFGUSA
If your anxiety keep going, I suggest you to take test,  I said "if" :)

Because they right, french kiss is zero risk, as long as you don't have bleeding gum and also him..
Yes i dint have any visible cuts and dint taste blood either..he was slso drinking at the time...so i assume that would cut the risk further
Reread my advice about the 3. Your situation is straightforward so if you can't accept it see doc and a therapist. You don't have any medical training so it is unrealistic for you to try to self diagnose reasons that you have HIV.
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