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Open mouth kiss and gum injury

Hello,

I had a tartar removal which left some injuries in my gums, one of them at the top between molars which was somehow big as it took several days to heal.

4 days after my tartar removal, I had a kiss with someone with unknown HIV status. It was an open mouth kiss.

10 days after the kiss, I had a fever (38c - 39c) with night sweats, chills, nausea, some diarrhea (like half day), throat pain, a persistent cough with occasional transparent phlegm.

3 or 4 days after the initial symptoms, I started to feel some chest pain and difficulty breathing (I used an asthma inhaler to relieve these last 2 symptoms) the chest pain and difficulty breathing lasted for like 2 days and the cough persisted for like 7 more days with mild fever.

I had some antibiotics through this time and didn't felt they were helping, which makes me think it was a virus.

I have to mention that 2 people (adult and baby) living with me didn't had any symptoms or felt unwell, but a month after my first illness, I got another flu-like illness with runny nose and congestion, this time the other 2 people got it as well. This makes me worry even more.

I had a COVID PCR test for the first illness which was negative.

At that time I already had my 2 COVID vaccines and I don't know if the other person has bleeding gums or any mouth injury.

I had one COVID vaccine brand and the other 2 people had other brand.

Any advise?
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Hello,  well there are other viruses than covid you can get.  You had no risk for HIV. HIV is only transmitted from unprotected vaginal or anal sex or sharing IV drug needles to inject drugs.  Saliva and air inactivate the virus.  So, you had zero risk from what you describe.  
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Thank you for your response. I've been searching on this subject and couldn't find a case similar to mine:

gum injuries due to a dentist tartar cleaning and a kiss after some days of that event.

Another person wanted to know more about this kissing subject on: https://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV-Prevention/Understanding-the-infection-a-case-study-of-Kissing-and-Hiv-risk---question-directed-to-Teak-and-others/show/918181

The answers there keep saying deep kissing has no risk, but maybe with these injuries in the gums is different?

I'm worried because I had most of the symptoms of acute HIV just 10 days after the open mouth kiss and COVID was ruled out.

I assume is still the same answer: no HIV risk?
Your situation involves personal contact with an object in air  (mouth, lips, skin etc. ). You will be happy to learn that you had no risk, because you can't get hiv from personal contact except unprotected penetrating vaginal or anal with a penis, neither of which you did and you didn't share hollow needles to inject with which is the only other way to acquire hiv - there are only 3 ways to get hiv. Analysis of large numbers of infected people over the 40 years of hiv history has proven that people don't get hiv in the way you are worried is a risk.
HIV is a fragile virus in air or saliva and is effectively instantly dead in either air or saliva so the WORST that could happen is dead virus rubbed you, and obviously anything which is dead cannot live again so you are good. Blood and cuts would not be relevant in your situation since the hiv has become effectively dead, so you don't have to worry about them to be sure that you are safe.
There is no reason for a person to test when they are safe. The advice took into consideration that the other person might be positive, so move on and enjoy life instead of thinking about this non-event. hiv prevention is straightforward since there are only 3 ways you can become infected, so next time you wonder if you had a risk, ask yourself this QUESTION. "Did I do any of the 3?" Then after you say "No, I didn't" you will know that it's time to move on back to your happy life.
No one got hiv from what you did during 40 years of hiv history and no one will get it in the next 40 years of your life either.  You can do what you did any time and be safe from hiv.
The other person's status is irrelevant when you have no exposure.
Your second post is a repetition of your first so the advice can't change.  You got flu or covid as mentioned above, so should move on from hiv googling.
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