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Toddler bite

Hello,

Last week my family went to Chuck E Cheese, and there was a toddler there that was following my 4 year old daughter around, climbing up onto the rides while they were already moving, to join my daughter. This toddler was completely unsupervised. Just as we were about to leave, my 4 year old daughter told me that the toddler bit her on the finger.

In my area there are high rates of HIV and perinatal HIV (FL) and this family appeared to me to have risk factors. I am terrified that my daughter could get HIV from this incident, because:

-the toddler was rough-playing, and climbing onto moving rides, so she certainly could have bumped her mouth and been bleeding in the mouth
-my daughter had a hangnail, a pinpoint scab from several hours earlier, and a fingernail that was cut too short that morning, so the skin was red (there was no white part of fingernail, that’s how short).

My daughter said that this toddler put my daughter’s finger into her mouth, moved it to both inner cheeks, chewed on the side of the finger, and then bit hard on the nail. I saw no teeth marks anywhere and it didn’t look like there were any new scabs, or any scabs from what I remember under the nail. I could be wrong though, if it was very small. I'm so worried that the “biting hard on the nail” could've separated the nail from the finger and opened the skin. I didn’t see teeth marks, any new scabs, or any blood, however the lighting was bad in there when I looked, and I washed her hands after that.

I'm so scared. My pediatrician seemed irritated that I was calling off hours and said “I have no way of knowing whether she’ll get that.” Her nurse said that I don't need to worry. None of my kids have ever been bitten before and I had no idea this would happen. I don’t know if testing is warranted. I desperately want to know that she doesn’t have HIV but also don’t want to put her through testing (pain, trauma) if it's unnecessary.

I tried to post this question to Dr. HHH and Dr. EWH, but I couldn't get it to work.
As for the risk, please let me know. Thank you so much.
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Hello again.

My daughters were talking again about this incident and mentioned that the little girl who bit my daughter had "red lipstick" on, and it got on my daughter's finger after the bite.

Her finger already had hours-old hangnail and too-short cut nails as well as a tiny scab.

If the lipstick was actually blood, would that change the risk?

Unfortunately I have been worried about this since it happened, and I followed everyone's advice and did nothing (no testing) but I have a lot of anxiety (just anyway) and it's just awful.

My other question is, if I test, how would I do it? Would the oraquick work? Do I go to the ER or something? We are between health insurance right now.

Thanks
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Thanks again. It's a really wonderful thing you do on this forum, helping a lot of people. Happy new year.
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More or less.
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Thank you so much
Out of curiosity, would this kind of thing be under the category of "casual contact?"
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HIV is transmitted by;
Unprotected penetrative anal and/or vaginal sex
Sharing works with other IV drug users
Mother to child
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Thanks so much... I really appreciate it. I was worried if toddler's mouth bled into my daughter's scab/hangnail/possible open skin under nail, that it would happen, but it really can't??
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Hiv can not transmit this way.

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Not an HIV concern.
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