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Hi Doctors, I have been researching a lot of info on the net regarding oral sex. I have also been reading a lot of other posts on this forum, so I am aware of how low my risk is to exposure. I am a 33 year old, white heterosexual male residing in South Africa, by principle I do not sleep around etc and I am in a serious relationship. Friday night that just passed, I had protected vaginal sex with a girl that I know and have known for a while, we are however no friends, more of aquantices so I'm not very familiar with her lifestyle, however she is currently in a relationship. When she finished climaxing, at this point, I had already climaxed, she got off me and the condom came off and half way hanging out of her. I'm pretty sure there was no exchange of fluids, I also to the condom to the bathroom to inspect it for any signs of blood or breakage, all was in tact. My concern is with the oral sex part: before intercourse, she gave me oral which I'm not worried about, reading the info on your forums, I also gave her oral, wasn't long though, maybe a minute. The fluid I had in my mouth, I spat out into my shirt that was lying next to me. The next day I realised I had a canker sore on my lip and a small abrasion on the inside of my gum (probably for my teeth whilst eating). Would like to know, even though this is low risk, should I get tested? I also see a lot of sources say that vaginal fluid contains the same amount of hiv concentraion as what salivia does, and that the high concentrations are further up (cervical fluid)? With having said this, does this mean the risk is even lower even tho I had the 2 mouth sores? Also, I know I am staying in the country with the highest hiv infection rate in the world, however this is mostly apllicable to the black population, as they make up 40 million of the 50 million, do you have any stats on the infections specifically pertaining to the white population? Thanks in advance!
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Total BS. Move along.
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its statements like this on websites that get people confused:
"Millions of teenagers become infected with STD's such as chlamydia, gonorrhea, HIV and herpes each year and oral sex is a route by which teens are becoming infected"

link: http://aids.about.com/od/childrenteens/a/teensoral.htm
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Yes including sores.
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"Oral sex of any kind is not a risk of HIV transmission." - regardless that i had sores in my mouth?
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PCR-DNA tests are not approved for diagnostic use.
PCR-RNA are supplemental tests used in conjunction with an antibody test.

Oral sex of any kind is not a risk of HIV transmission.
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Thanks for the clarity Teak.
Are the sources that quote vaginal hiv concentration at the same level as salivia, correct? Also, what's your thoughts on a PCR test, I understand it produces a lot of false positives, thus its not recommended?
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No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States

Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228

AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men

Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.

Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:

Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117
Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;

Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.

There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex. The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way. Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk". There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANSFIELD

"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Please educate yourself about the real risks. If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANSFIELD

"I am sure you can find lots of people who belive that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..." DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK

in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA

"The observation on thousands and thousands of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort)." DR HOOK
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