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can it be possible?



i have question weighing heavy in my mind. i would be grateful if someone can answer.

Suppose the one gets infected on friday, on sturday he himself infects someone else. Can his body in two days fight with the newly infected virus and win but the other person who got infected remains infected??
the big picture is; i got nothing but she's infected but i'm the one should have infected her not anyone else can be?

thank you very very much all...
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219662 tn?1223858560
OK, forget the google, it's giving off some wack stuff
I believe this is one of the papers

J Clin Invest. 1998 November 1; 102(9): 1758–1765.
Cytotoxic T cell responses to multiple conserved HIV epitopes in HIV-resistant prostitutes in Nairobi.
S L Rowland-Jones, T ****, K R Fowke, J Kimani, P Krausa, H Newell, T Blanchard, K Ariyoshi, J Oyugi, E Ngugi, J Bwayo, K S MacDonald, A J McMichael, and F A Plummer
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219662 tn?1223858560
sorry, the last comment is for you, Teak
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219662 tn?1223858560
1) antibodies do not carry HIV into the lymphatic system, don't know where you got that from
2) by the "largest lymphoid organ", I meant GALT (Gut-Associated Lymphoid Tissue).  It's not an "organ" in a sense that you can't dissect it out as a spleen or a kidney.  Its just the lymphoid tissue that lines the gut.
3) keep in mind that none of that "carrier" stuff is proven.  It's just a theory that's been thrown around for a while now.  Google for stuff on "Nairobi HIV-resistant prostitutes" if you want to dig for more details.
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219662 tn?1223858560
None of that "carrier" stuff is proven.  It's just a theory that's been thrown around for a while now.  Google for stuff on "Nairobi HIV-resistant prostitutes" if you want to dig for more details.  I don't remember where the other stuff is from, I just heard things like that over the years.  They kind of make sense, but that doesn't mean that it's right.
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You say there is data on this. Where can the data be found.
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thats a vey interesting piece of information. Just wanted to clarify few things. When a virus attcks the body, the anti-bodies label viral capsids and carry it into the lymphatic system where the body tries to destroy them.  You mention that the viral particles have to be carried into the lymphoid tissue for them to survive and thrive.
Please correct me if i am wrong but i thought the virus actually multiplies everywhere, beginning with the host cells that then "spill" into the plasma as well. Only then the body recognizes it and starts reacting to it (hence the flu-like symptoms) and also produces the anti-bodies which carry them to the lymphatic system.
while common cold and flu viruses can be deactivated in the lymphatic system, HIV or other compex viruses cannot be, I thought that is the reason the lymph nodes remain swollen in people infected with these viruses (even EBV), because the the infection is constantly being drained into the lymph nodes even while the virus is replicating itself multifold.
The largest lymphoid organ that you are referreing to around the intestinal tract, is it spleen? I read somewhere that spleen is the largest lymph node in the body.


But still, this is a totally new piece of info and thank you very much for that.
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219662 tn?1223858560
It's still controversial, not the kind of stuff that goes into textbooks.
But there is data.

For example, when monkeys are infected with a low dose of SIV, sometimes low levels of the virus can be detected in the blood, but the monkey will clear it and never seroconvert.
Or when they looked at highly exposed seronegative African prostitutes, HIV-specific T cells were found - indicating that they have "seen" HIV and apparently cleared it.
There are other such little puzzling bits out there.
The whole "carrier" concept has been around for a while.

My guess - HIV needs to get to the lymphoid tissue, that's where it thrives.  Once it's there, the infection is forever.  But if it is "killed" before it gets there - the infection can be aborted.

That is maybe why anal receptive intercourse is such high risk - well one of the reasons.  The largest lymphoid organ in the body surrounds the intestinal tract - that's where we encounter most pathogens.  So if HIV is deposited in the rectum, it's pretty much right where it needs to be.
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Now pray tell how that is possible?
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219662 tn?1223858560
It's actually not a bad question.
There is some data indicating that it's possible to have a transient HIV infection and clearing it completely before it becomes a full-blown infection.

But it's much more likely that she cheated on you.
Or you are still in the window period.
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If you got infected you stay infected. Period.
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anybody can answer me??
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but we make love often maybe my body beat the virus in seven days?? can that be possible?
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You can have sex with someone that is HIV+ and not get infected. But how many times do you chance it.  The answer is no, if she was to have got infected by you then you would be positive.
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