I have ended up with fibromyalgia and cfs I'm constantly exhausted was fit and active before I had that hep c treatment in 2005 I wish I would have just lived with the hep c .
Alys,
After reading your post, I think I know a little about the things you are experiencing post-interferon. Since interferon (and pegasys) treatment in 2010, I have not been the same person at all - not physically, mentally nor socially. I have felt so bad lately that I have honestly thought it would be better to take a drink after 6 years of sobriety rather than face another day of this pain and discomfort...but not today. Since this treatment in 2010, I have developed an autoimmune disease and some other debilitating issues. I am 62, in relatively good health (heart, etc.), but not like before. My regular blood tests show no active virus, but I often wonder why I feel so bad. My friends, most of whom are older than I, just tell me its old age. I do not think so... I just found this site today and wanted you to know you are not alone, for as much as that might help.
I'm 58 now and did a year's course of Interferon alpha from July 97- end June 98. I have nearly all the side effects that you mentioned and in the last few months and up to a year after treatment I made several serious suicide attempts which was something that I never thought about previously. I have the fatigue, cognitive fuzziness, joint pain (really bad and it isn't just the joints but muscle pain for no apparent reason too). I am grateful that the Hepatitis C was cleared from my system but I underwent the initial 3.5 mega units and an increase to 9 mega units and, despite being free of the fear of the virus, I feel that any symptoms I had in the first place have worsened and it's nearly 20 years ago now...I've kinda got used to the fact that I will just have to put up with this but I am under a lot of pressure from the DWP as I am now on ESA and they expect me to be jumping through hoops when it takes me all my time to remember what day it is and appointments are difficult to keep with the fatigue and insomnia. The only other thing I wanted to say was, do any of you have IBS or a similar condition? This has plagued me ever since and I just wondered? Best wishes to all who are stuck with this...and if I remember the box notes from the Interferon correctly most of the above is to be expected in a certain amount of people.
I am in a similar position as I went thru some months of hcv therapy with interfuron, ribaviron, and incivik. Treatment failed after maybe 3 or 4 months. I am an RN BSN so am not uneducated in medical matters. My life as I knew it no longer exists. Every professional basically writes it off to emotional problems. I really had no propensity to emotional issues prior. I am extremely sensitive to drugs like Lyrica, normal doses of antidepressants.
Afterwards I had a suicide attempt with a knife to my left chest. I am now 63 yo disabled nurse. I could go on with signs and symptoms like CFS and fibromyalgia. Fatigue, joint aches are very prevelent. Mind fog, tremors, and lack of coordination prevail. My rheumatoid factor is up around 10.
Everything has changed. I do not know what to do or whether my life is stuck in this position. I can barely read a book because my concentration is so very poor.
Any suggestions?
I'm constantly surprised by the number of people who still add to this page.
I may not reply asap as I have days I can't but it doesn't mean I don't read them.
How they can deny that this is a fact with all of us saying the same complaints is beyond me...
Was treated for hepatitis C in 1999 at Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center I still have basically the same side effects that I experienced when I was on the interferon I posted because I did not know that so many we're going through the same things
interferon causes autoimmunity in the brain
Check this article out!!! There is proof that interferon is toxic...and explains all the problems resulting in the fibro....law suit anyone?
http://www.cortjohnson.org/blog/2015/09/20/spinning-fibromyalgia-brain-findings-suggest-dopamine-may-be-key/
You said that the 0.5 naloxone which comes with the subuxone worsen your status. Well, naloxone doesn't get into the bloodstream. It's in the Subuxone only to prevent users from injecting the drug.Naloxone is IV only. You need naltrexone to get the desired effects.
Good luck
me too i feel the same i was ok when i had the hep c done the treatment 10 years ago and never recovered .
hi im sorry to tell you but i took the treatment ten years ago and my symptoms of fatigue and depression brain fog the lot i am 52 from the uk it has ruined my life i used to be so active would have rather lived with the hep c x
i took the treatment in 2005 and ten years later i have brain fog aged abt 30years out of breath deppresed cant even think straight so so tired all the time the list goes on im always in bed i actually feel suicidal tried all sorts of meds i would rather have hep c i was ok when i had it i am a female 52 and feel abt 90 my life is over and no one understands unless they have been through it.
pub med re peripheral neuropathy and antiretroviral drugs http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11293802
I tx'd for almost a year w/ pegasys & 800mg. Ribavirin from either '06-'07 or '07-'08. (Bad brain fog--STILL!) Still UND
I worked each day on tx at an extremely physical job while HGB fell and started Procrit....but now- I am collecting SSD.
I am much worse now than on tx or pre for that matter...
Many of the same sx's as above.
I was so glad to see this forum (and recognize some names-Hi all) and especially know I'm not alone in this. I will read through all the posts on each thread.
I'm experiencing...
Muscle aches
Extreme fatigue
Joint aches (RA+)
Thyroid (Hypo)
Numb hands
Psoriasis has never gone away (Much better though)
I still have a sinus thing that has never gone away since tx and also a slight ringing in ears that has gotten a bit better. (Or I'm used to it)
The fatigue is SO CONSUMING!!
Anyway-I look forward to being here again and reading all the posts
Xen
interferon and celiac's disease... http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0004-28032004000200012
Re Supplements that help. DHEA helps me a good deal and I've heard others report the same. In fact, it ought to be prescribed and free as part of aftercare, at least for men (there are some alleged dangers of masculinization for women so I don't know if it's worth the risk). In fact any "body-building" types of supplement are likely to help, eg alanine, and other amino-acids for energy eg carnitine, glutamine. Reishi mushroom powder (aka ganoderma) is also damn good (you must take it every day to gain any benefit. Buy it on ebay from Thailand)
I attempted interferon/ribovirin twice: I only lasted about five weeks each time because the side-effects were so severe and support from the NHS criminally non-existent. Last time was nearly 7 years ago yet I still have memory damage, gout, tendonitis, visual loss, sleep problems, nervous problems and god knows what else. The CFS wore off about 2 years after stopping treatment but it may as well not have as I have no volition whatever, I'm almost a cabbage. Memory and sleep improved about 4 years after, but have since started deteriorating again along with balance and coordination.
Consenting to treatment was the biggest mistake of my life, I was conned into it with a pack of lies. Yes, its all about money; they get paid for signing you up, paid again if you consent to participate in "research projects", paid again when they make you see the nurse or call you to appointments where they just talk about cricket, paid again for having a "student" present: one long gravy-train is the NHS. Doctors should all be sole traders you can sue if they do wrong and not pay if they are rubbish.
I was in an at-risk group with evidence of a pre-existing auto-immune condition. I pointed this out to both consultants; assured I'd be watched, but abandoned when it all went bad. I've lost my house, hundreds of thousands of pounds, and now cannot work. They continue to deny their treatment caused my problems when it obviously did so I cannot even get basic welfare help. There is no justice in the UK.
And of course it never came close to curing HCV, although ironically that has never given me any problems. In a nutshell DONT DO IT.
For all of those referring it to chemo. Our GP's first comment was "It is like chemo to your liver". He hit it right on. He was very sympathetic to my husband. I think he was more forthcoming with the consequences of the treatment than the liver spec. I asked him if Hormones play a role in inflammation and he said he was not sure and with his low results it was worth a try. Soon after most of the inflammation has gone away. I was also suffering from inflammation due to post surgery and I also looked into my hormones and sure enough that was a major problem.
My husband did treatment immediately when FDA released the new treatment 2 years ago. Within 12 weeks he was undetectable. As a caregiver it was very hard for me to watch him suffer. Within the 2nd week of treatment all known side effects and then some kicked in. The liver specialist promised he would be there for his patience during treatment which we discovered was not true. He was only interested in the before/after results and don't bother him any symptoms. I then took a lot of matters in my hands and did a lot of research on my own and studies other peoples prior experiences and what worked for them per symptom. The people were helpful. Since my husband was basically bed ridden throughout the treatment and lost so much muscle mass, I asked the liver doctor during one of the visits to check his liver that would he please do a more thorough panel on him beyond checking his liver and for anemia. I asked him to check his hormone levels which is a major factor in your overall well being as a man or a woman. The doctor looked at me as if I was nuts, and thought I was selfishly asking for my own needs. I said especially check his testosterone levels because I was convinced these meds have killed it since he was so weak. Doctor reluctantly did as I requested and sure enough I was dead on. He was at the lowest levels, thus also bring him down in strength and also kept him down post treatment and unable to fight infections easily. Once he was cleared of the Hep C, the GP put him on Androgel which is topical. We waited a while to see if it would work but it was not strong enough. Once doctor gave him shots of Testosterone, quickly his immune system starting recovering, he was getting more energy, his body stopped hurting so much, he started loosing the excessive weight he had gained post treatment and he started getting an overall better feeling including loosing the brain fog.
Therefore, my suggestions is some of the commonly missed with doctors. Have them do thorough blood panels including your hormones (which they will not check unless specifically asked). Your hormones play a big role in your immune system and overall well being and believe it or not a lot of health issues. I'd rather substitute hormones rather than more pharmaceuticals. Husband only takes vitamins and Test.
Hi, glad I have found this forum. I am 61 year old male who is virus free after 40 years of Hep C with stage 3 liver disease. I have been treated 3 times, the first with interferon, second with interferon and ribivirin, and the last was with interferon, ribivirin and incivek for 11 months. The last treatment ended in June 2012 and was brutal. Now 2 years later I have never felt worse in my life. I am experiencing headaches, severe fatigue, brain fog and joint pain on a daily basis. When I sleep i can't bend my legs or arm because of pain. I essentially have to sleep at attention. Reading has become difficult because my attention span is pathetic. Praying it doesn't get worse.
Steve
Hi, another member put this URL in another thread, I thought it might help others.
http://www.hepatitiscnewdrugresearch.com/hcv-neuropsychiatric-symptoms-ldquobrain-fogrdquo.html
Also after treating I used NADH to try to help my brain fog. I believe it did help me with the worst of it. The problem is we are all different so no way to know. I also tried Dribose. I had forgotten about it until someone else mentioned it
Thank you all for sharing. I really appreciate it very much.
Dee
chemotherapy vs. immunotherapy
I only heard my GPs nurse call it chemo and then some called it immunotherapy...
Anyways, I found those links fascinating and will bring them to my GP.
Thanks both. f
"It's called "depersonalization syndrome." It's scary and very difficult to deal with."
Wonderful... I don't know how long the list of syndromes is now but here goes another! Actually I have been able to deal with this one a bit better than some of the others! That is why my current therapist keeps congratulating me on a job well done! And I can tell you that AntiDepressant didn't help me on this one!
"...They are caused by immune systems gone haywire from the drugs. Your body attacks itself as the drugs leave the system, and tissues (be it skin, kidney, nerves, brain, bone, thyroid, pituitary, whatever) get inflamed and that's what causes you to feel so whacky. ...
Until very recently, the warnings never mentioned "depersonalization syndrome" or alluded to the fact that interferon alters your immune system. If the warnings were fairly given in plain English, few people would probably take these drugs."
As for my HepC/Liver docs that is all they did talk about actually - the part about the immune system - maybe it wasn't "altering" but "revving up" something like that... and as I recall in reading thru the warnings of both INF / Ribavirin *the print was like the old time Bible and nearly as thick = even my mother was shocked at the warnings and she is a medical experiment in her own right!... even included death. AND, like otterwatcher, riba - I kept asking about those horrible things and they kept telling me they really didn't know much about them after using them for over 10 years!!!
"It has taken a peculiar combination of arrogance and naiveté... It's the perfect scam. Those they damage are mostly silent and incapable of fighting for themselves, best case."
"I think American Western medicine crossed a line in its treatment of this disease (witness the uproar as to the cost of S/O)... Maybe I think too much."
"Pharmaceutical rep replaces used car salesman in more and more people's eyes, that's for sure."
I had a very old Chinese acupuncturist who tried to realign me for a number of months. HE finally gave up saying "Western medicine has damaged you too much for acupuncture to help!". This doctor was also a western physician - I think a surgeon but I forget...
I hope you are correct, and I believe the same as you in that the HUGE push to treat HepC no matter what for the "cure" of a virus! as a scam will eventually become a major problem for all involved - unfortunately all in the medical community from the FDA to big pharma to the docs, reps etc all work very well together in the scam *nearly forgot the insurers!!! attorneys!!! etc.
I made a complaint against an endo doc and her office, I have yet to see the report but with a follow up call can already tell they are covering for the doctor. The patient is the least interested party in it all in most cases until the numbers get so enormous and Congress starts complaining more about just cost!
Anyways, I don't know if my thoughts came out clearly but I just wanted to say I do appreciate your well written post scottie24!