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Has anyone tried Mesosilver?
I cannot do Interferon again because of retinopathy, therefore am looking for ways/means to improve my quality of life. I lost my job in April and my Cobra insur. just lapsed. I walk 30-40 minutes a day and try to eat a diet that supports my liver taking a few supplements, (Selenium, Alpha Lipoic Acid, SAM E, and Vitamin E occasionally C. and milk thistle)Primary symptoms of concern are low energy to fatigue and a lack of mental acuity. This varies to feeling scatter brained and memory loss to inability to sustain concentration. No matter what I do 6.5 hours is the most sleep I can get, often 5 is the routine. I frequently have an ache in my right side. The mornings when I wake up is the worst, dreams and thoughts are bizarre and I feel like the toxins get to my brain more when I am prone for some reason. I read somewhere that high blood sugar levels might make one a poor responder to tx which mine had been increasing during and after tx fasting 118-125. Thanks in advance for suggestions. Larry
To each their own indeed. I only had a few capfuls of CS for a few days in Aug and a few in Nov, and now I'm having grey in and out of my hands, headaches, muscle aches, fatigue, and the sides of my fingers may have permanent nerve damage.
I suggest you not push your luck. It may be too late by then.
I suggest you not push your luck. It may be too late by then.
seriously???
you are basing your comments and opinion on a link by some random guy named James in College Station,Texas ?
I have used the MesoSilver for the past five years to help speed wound healing and in place of using pharmaceutical antibiotics... I am not blue ;) and have been very happy with the results of using the colloidal silver and will continue to do so.... .
..but, to each their own!
you are basing your comments and opinion on a link by some random guy named James in College Station,Texas ?
I have used the MesoSilver for the past five years to help speed wound healing and in place of using pharmaceutical antibiotics... I am not blue ;) and have been very happy with the results of using the colloidal silver and will continue to do so.... .
..but, to each their own!
This is a scam alert to anyone using or thinking of using Mesosilver, by Purest Colloids. Below is a like to a brief expose on a website called ripoffreport.com. For years this product has claimed to be the best, but it keeps changing colors. For years it was black (probably mostly silver oxide), unlike all other CS products, and claimed it was because theirs was the best and the black color was due to how small their silver nanoparticles are; then MediSILVER came on the scene (which appears orange when backlit) and now the internet adds for Mesosilver show it with an orange color - copying MediSILVER. Purest Colloids spends unknown amounts of money advertising on the web to convince everyone that Mesosilver is the best money can buy. The link below exposes that Purest Colloids owns the very same "independent, unbiased research organizations" they cite as having evaluated all the colloidal silver products (their competition) and having picked Mesosilver as the best - time and time again...this is absolute fraud! Do some digging on the web and you will see that a class action law suit is being put together against Purest Colloids and the FDA is hot on their trail as well. Here is the link promised:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/drug-manufacturers/silver-colloids-com/silver-colloids-com-colloidal-55eea.htm
Lets stop others from being scammed any longer by Purest Colloids and their Mesosilver!!!
http://www.ripoffreport.com/drug-manufacturers/silver-colloids-com/silver-colloids-com-colloidal-55eea.htm
Lets stop others from being scammed any longer by Purest Colloids and their Mesosilver!!!
Here's a different angle. I've spent a year researching different types of energy healings. I'm a very left-brain,skeptical individual. A month ago I decided to travel to Cali. to take a course on 'Pranic Healing'. It is an 'energetic therapy'. It is based on the law that the body can heal itself if it has the correct fuel. This includes clean air, food, and energy. Science has proven we have a bio-energy field, in ancient cultures they call it an Aura. To cut to the chase, before the 2 day course was over I had used the healing to put out a rageing case of heartburn I developed in my motel room in about 7 minutes without taking anything. I wasn't sure at first if it was just mind over matter, but after 4 weeks of using what I learned, there are to many real results on my family and others to deny it works. Go to
( your hands can heal you.com) Read the testimonies and watch the videos. You can also call them and see if there is a practioner in your area. The course is given by Master Stephen Co. You will not be disappointed.
( your hands can heal you.com) Read the testimonies and watch the videos. You can also call them and see if there is a practioner in your area. The course is given by Master Stephen Co. You will not be disappointed.
Colloidal silver sure has all the earmarkings of "snake oil", testamonials, no peer reviewed data, touted as panacea, etc. But what the heck, if it makes you feel good, go nuts! Makes me a little blue, though.
lol... I used to have a lot of hair... I hope it will come back.
Never got those Manolo boots... :-( Got my money back though...
Never got those Manolo boots... :-( Got my money back though...
Are those high black boots legal?...you look lik Donna Summer in that pic with you wild hair.
You say that you don't have hepatitis C and don't know if colloidal silver works to kill hepatitis C virus. People on this board have this disease. Many treated or are currently treating with interferon and ribavirin; many are feeling really bad. Hepatitis C is our every day reality. It is not sinus infection, burn, or flu. If you don't have evidence that colloidal silver kills this particular virus-what is the point of posting? This is serious, life-threatening disease and a sensitive subject for us.
There is no evidence at all that colloidal silver works for hepatitis C virus. Not even anecdotal evidence. I am very open towards alternative options, and I don't worship pharma companies and doctors. I am often sceptical about clinical trials; many of them are not perfectly done. But the reality is-colloidal silver doesn't work for hepatitis C. It doesn't kill hepatitis C virus-even in the lab.
For many people here time is precious. You can not tell them-try this, try that, because it is natural. We want to do something that is proven to work.
I read a story on line about a couple that both were infected with hepatitis C. Both did colloidal silver for 6 months-and their viral load went up. They went to the person they bought it from in their city, yelled at him, and demanded their money back. I have yet to see at least one colloidal silver success story-not provided by the seller of this product, but from independent source. I would like to see the story of substantial reduction of viral load. But there is no such story. If you know somebody who was successful, ask him/her to post their experience and viral load.
There is no evidence at all that colloidal silver works for hepatitis C virus. Not even anecdotal evidence. I am very open towards alternative options, and I don't worship pharma companies and doctors. I am often sceptical about clinical trials; many of them are not perfectly done. But the reality is-colloidal silver doesn't work for hepatitis C. It doesn't kill hepatitis C virus-even in the lab.
For many people here time is precious. You can not tell them-try this, try that, because it is natural. We want to do something that is proven to work.
I read a story on line about a couple that both were infected with hepatitis C. Both did colloidal silver for 6 months-and their viral load went up. They went to the person they bought it from in their city, yelled at him, and demanded their money back. I have yet to see at least one colloidal silver success story-not provided by the seller of this product, but from independent source. I would like to see the story of substantial reduction of viral load. But there is no such story. If you know somebody who was successful, ask him/her to post their experience and viral load.
Oil of oregeno killed my flu i had 5 years ago within hours,never had one ever since.I have to say tho i dont knock BIG PHARMA totally because with the boceprevir i would not have cleared my hep C , this is one good drug they have and also the SOC drugs are needed,but i do know there are way too much drugs prescribed for too may aliments that we can prevent and even cure in certain instances with just plain healthy living and we dont need a pill for every ill.
To anyone who really wants to know, I can't say for sure that colloidal silver kills viruses (nor that it doesn't, because I don't remember). But research it yourself, and if you find that it's not an antiviral, you might want to try oil of oregano, which reportedly is the most potent herbal antibacterial, ANTIVIRAL, antibiotic, and antifungal there is. But at least check them both out and don't just rely on the rantings of ignorant people too stubborn to at least do research on these things, relying solely on the word of the medical profession, as if they were trustworthy and the last word on health. I wish you the very best in your quest for something that works.
And you give credibility to the medical industry, based on "citations to published peer-reviewed articles," in view of all they've done to bilk the masses of a fair portion of their living, as witnessed by thousands?? My, how very naive you are. The healthcare system in this country alone is a joke, and you're relying on "citations to published peer-reviewed articles"!?
As I said in paragraph 2 of my blog, there are no "test results" for these natural remedies--which have been found to work for centuries,-- specifically because the medical industry (yes, I said INDUSTRY) and the pharmaceutical industry are in cahoots with the government to prevent it...ironically, because they're in it for the money, as the "snake-oil salesmen" are accused of being.
Nine times out of ten, when I go to my doctor and he prescribes something, it's trial and error because he doesn't any more than I do what will work. "But let's try it anyway, and if it doesn't work, come back to me and give me more money, then we'll prescribe something else expensive to put more money in the pharmacist's pocket." (You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours....) Well, he doesn't say that, but we all know that's how it works. And that's true of many doctors, not just mine.
So unless you've tried the silver or any other natural thing, don't make me laugh about your "citations to published peer-reviewed articles." The citations of people I know, for whom these remedies have worked, are good enough for me. I trust my friends more than the medical "profession"--"professing" to be in it to help people, having taken their "hypocritical" oath.
As you said, "blah, blah, blah"--and that goes for your "citations" as well. My citation is as good or better than theirs.
As I said in paragraph 2 of my blog, there are no "test results" for these natural remedies--which have been found to work for centuries,-- specifically because the medical industry (yes, I said INDUSTRY) and the pharmaceutical industry are in cahoots with the government to prevent it...ironically, because they're in it for the money, as the "snake-oil salesmen" are accused of being.
Nine times out of ten, when I go to my doctor and he prescribes something, it's trial and error because he doesn't any more than I do what will work. "But let's try it anyway, and if it doesn't work, come back to me and give me more money, then we'll prescribe something else expensive to put more money in the pharmacist's pocket." (You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours....) Well, he doesn't say that, but we all know that's how it works. And that's true of many doctors, not just mine.
So unless you've tried the silver or any other natural thing, don't make me laugh about your "citations to published peer-reviewed articles." The citations of people I know, for whom these remedies have worked, are good enough for me. I trust my friends more than the medical "profession"--"professing" to be in it to help people, having taken their "hypocritical" oath.
As you said, "blah, blah, blah"--and that goes for your "citations" as well. My citation is as good or better than theirs.
Pharma drugs treat the symptomm,thats it,they DO NOT prevent disease,some pharma drugs do cure like the SOC drugs,but with awful side effects, natural "drugs" and herbs plants,supplements prevent disease and in some cases cure illnesses without side effects.
Most pharma drugs are synethised, from plant sources to make them more potent, but also with more side effects .
ill stick with my freezed dried blue green alage(stem enhance).and my cydcorps mushroon extracts
Most pharma drugs are synethised, from plant sources to make them more potent, but also with more side effects .
ill stick with my freezed dried blue green alage(stem enhance).and my cydcorps mushroon extracts
Blah, blah, blah…
None of the people that arrive in this forum in defense of these silver products (as they pertain to viral management) provide citations to published, peer-reviewed articles; can anyone guess why :o)?
Bill
None of the people that arrive in this forum in defense of these silver products (as they pertain to viral management) provide citations to published, peer-reviewed articles; can anyone guess why :o)?
Bill
So there's no "proof" that colloidal silver works? No test results, etc...? Well, the proof is actual cases of successes, and the test results, actual cases where they worked...not lab trials.
There are no "test results" for colloidal silver and other natural "alternative" healers because the FDA, the pharmaceutical industry, and the medical industry are in cahoots with the government to disallow it! It would take too much money out of the pill-pushers' pockets if they were proven to work! Talk about "snake oil salemen" taking your money!!! Who does THAT more than the medical and pharmaceutical industries??? How much more expensive can it be to get medical treatment than it is now? And you spout your garbage about spending a little for something natural that's worked for centuries? Doctors are given very little training in medical school about nutrition, nor are pharmacists, and they know very little about things that the health professionals at health food stores know.
I don't have hepatitis C, but I have been battling cellulitis for nearly 4 months now, with the use of four different antibiotics, one right after the other because the bacteria would build up an immunity to one, so I'd have to go on another. None of them made any difference in the infection, but they did make me very ill--especially one called Cleocin, or its generic, Clindamycin, which caused side effects my pharmacist told me can be irreversible or even fatal. (He told me this, by the way, AFTER I'd experienced horrible side effects and called him about it.)
No brochure came with this "medicine," and the prescribing doctor didn't warn me of any possibly debilitating side effects. (Great medical protocol!) After three and a half months of taking these various antibiotics one after the other, I was no better, so I decided to go off of these supposedly "safe prescription medicines" and give my body a chance to recuperate.
I've since gone on colloidal silver, and only after doing so did I begin to see some improvement. I have a ways to go, but at least there is improvement, and I feel FAR better physically. At least I can keep my head up at work, which I couldn't do while on the pharma. And no, I'm not turning blue--which only happens if one takes a suspension that has particles so big they become trapped in the skin, or drinks it in ridiculous quantities. Those are the only cases on record in which that has happened. Unlike medicine, IF TAKEN AS DIRECTED, there are no side effects of these natural remedies.
And as far as your "post hoc ergo propter hoc" nonsense is concerned--which term you overused, probably to try to appear intelligent--isn't that precisely the type of rationale used in "clinical testing" to "prove" that a given medicine works-- "After this, then this happened"? Think about it. And you said you would try any alternative remedy for eternity if you thought it could work and wouldn't cause the side effects you experience on your medicine, or words to that effect. Really? Then why not actually check it out for yourself, give it the chance you've given the medicine you've been on for how many times--22?--and see what happens? Apparently, the "medicine" hasn't helped...at least, you haven't declared that it has. And it makes you feel like ****! How much worse could the colloidal silver, or oil or oregano, or any other natural remedy, be?
How much worse could it be to try something natural...that people have been using successfully for centuries (talk about proof), and see if it works, instead of stubbornly arguing for days on end that it's a hoax, etc.? That doesn't make any sense to me, or probably to any other thinking person. Why would someone NOT want to try something natural that works WITH the body instead of against it, which God put on this earth for our good, instead of something manufactured that works against the body instead of with it? Makes no sense to me.
And you, who quoted the amounts of the minerals that are supposed to be present in our bodies: In what amounts are pharmaceuticals supposed to be present in our bodies? Does Gray's give you that information? Tell me why they should be preferred, especially in light of the endless lists of side effects they cause?
Medicines and doctors may have their place, but much more so do natural minerals and herbs given to us by the Creator for our good. Even so, the medical industry and doctors' place is not everywhere, at all times.
There are no "test results" for colloidal silver and other natural "alternative" healers because the FDA, the pharmaceutical industry, and the medical industry are in cahoots with the government to disallow it! It would take too much money out of the pill-pushers' pockets if they were proven to work! Talk about "snake oil salemen" taking your money!!! Who does THAT more than the medical and pharmaceutical industries??? How much more expensive can it be to get medical treatment than it is now? And you spout your garbage about spending a little for something natural that's worked for centuries? Doctors are given very little training in medical school about nutrition, nor are pharmacists, and they know very little about things that the health professionals at health food stores know.
I don't have hepatitis C, but I have been battling cellulitis for nearly 4 months now, with the use of four different antibiotics, one right after the other because the bacteria would build up an immunity to one, so I'd have to go on another. None of them made any difference in the infection, but they did make me very ill--especially one called Cleocin, or its generic, Clindamycin, which caused side effects my pharmacist told me can be irreversible or even fatal. (He told me this, by the way, AFTER I'd experienced horrible side effects and called him about it.)
No brochure came with this "medicine," and the prescribing doctor didn't warn me of any possibly debilitating side effects. (Great medical protocol!) After three and a half months of taking these various antibiotics one after the other, I was no better, so I decided to go off of these supposedly "safe prescription medicines" and give my body a chance to recuperate.
I've since gone on colloidal silver, and only after doing so did I begin to see some improvement. I have a ways to go, but at least there is improvement, and I feel FAR better physically. At least I can keep my head up at work, which I couldn't do while on the pharma. And no, I'm not turning blue--which only happens if one takes a suspension that has particles so big they become trapped in the skin, or drinks it in ridiculous quantities. Those are the only cases on record in which that has happened. Unlike medicine, IF TAKEN AS DIRECTED, there are no side effects of these natural remedies.
And as far as your "post hoc ergo propter hoc" nonsense is concerned--which term you overused, probably to try to appear intelligent--isn't that precisely the type of rationale used in "clinical testing" to "prove" that a given medicine works-- "After this, then this happened"? Think about it. And you said you would try any alternative remedy for eternity if you thought it could work and wouldn't cause the side effects you experience on your medicine, or words to that effect. Really? Then why not actually check it out for yourself, give it the chance you've given the medicine you've been on for how many times--22?--and see what happens? Apparently, the "medicine" hasn't helped...at least, you haven't declared that it has. And it makes you feel like ****! How much worse could the colloidal silver, or oil or oregano, or any other natural remedy, be?
How much worse could it be to try something natural...that people have been using successfully for centuries (talk about proof), and see if it works, instead of stubbornly arguing for days on end that it's a hoax, etc.? That doesn't make any sense to me, or probably to any other thinking person. Why would someone NOT want to try something natural that works WITH the body instead of against it, which God put on this earth for our good, instead of something manufactured that works against the body instead of with it? Makes no sense to me.
And you, who quoted the amounts of the minerals that are supposed to be present in our bodies: In what amounts are pharmaceuticals supposed to be present in our bodies? Does Gray's give you that information? Tell me why they should be preferred, especially in light of the endless lists of side effects they cause?
Medicines and doctors may have their place, but much more so do natural minerals and herbs given to us by the Creator for our good. Even so, the medical industry and doctors' place is not everywhere, at all times.
Yes I tried it. It did nothing to help with the Hepatitis but did help with my tan. please see my picture.
It does kill bacteria,this is a FACT,but another FACT is it will not kill the hepatitis virus,maybe other types of virsues maybe i dont know about.Ive never heard of anyone claiming it cured them from hep,not yet anyway.
The Hepatitis researcher that used to post on the forum said that he had colloidal silver tested against the virus in a lab and it showed absolutely no effect . This particular Dr. was very open minded about natural supplements that might help but he didn't think the silver would do anything to stop HCV.
NYgirl - after reading a lot of posts in this thread and others it is not hard to see why FIGuy is a respected poster.
Is that really all you can come up with? I clearly stated I don't know if it's effective for Hep C. Sorry, just the research I've read shows it's effective against viral diseases. The research is out there. I will give one quote from Larry C. Ford from UCLA
Based on laboratory tests with colloidal silver, destructive bacteria, virus, and fungus organisms are killed within minutes of contact, Larry C. Ford, M.D, of the Department of Ohstetrics and Gynecology, UCLA School of Medicine, Center For The Health Sciences reported in a letter dated November 1, 1988, "I tested them (the silver solutions) using standard antimicrobial tests for disinfectants. The silver solutions were antibacterial for concentrations of 10' organisms per ml. of Streptococcus Pyogenes, Staphylococcus Aurcus, Neisseria Gonorrhea, Gardnerella Vaginalis, Salmonella Typhi, and other enteric pathogens, and fungicidal for Candida Albicans, Candida Globata, and M. Furfur."
The research is out there and has been for a long time. It doesn't matter how old this thread is the issue is still relevant and still subject to a lot of misinformation.
Is that really all you can come up with? I clearly stated I don't know if it's effective for Hep C. Sorry, just the research I've read shows it's effective against viral diseases. The research is out there. I will give one quote from Larry C. Ford from UCLA
Based on laboratory tests with colloidal silver, destructive bacteria, virus, and fungus organisms are killed within minutes of contact, Larry C. Ford, M.D, of the Department of Ohstetrics and Gynecology, UCLA School of Medicine, Center For The Health Sciences reported in a letter dated November 1, 1988, "I tested them (the silver solutions) using standard antimicrobial tests for disinfectants. The silver solutions were antibacterial for concentrations of 10' organisms per ml. of Streptococcus Pyogenes, Staphylococcus Aurcus, Neisseria Gonorrhea, Gardnerella Vaginalis, Salmonella Typhi, and other enteric pathogens, and fungicidal for Candida Albicans, Candida Globata, and M. Furfur."
The research is out there and has been for a long time. It doesn't matter how old this thread is the issue is still relevant and still subject to a lot of misinformation.
This post is ancient.
I think the collodial silver thing is a scam.
I also believe in the power of belief.
Placebos work because people believe they do.
As for me, I'm sticking to drinking coffee:)
OH
I think the collodial silver thing is a scam.
I also believe in the power of belief.
Placebos work because people believe they do.
As for me, I'm sticking to drinking coffee:)
OH
The onothread is back up... Let's go and gobble the stuff and become a smurf...
Who wants to be which smurf?
I'll be sleepy smurf
Who wants to be which smurf?
I'll be sleepy smurf
You're correct in stating that silver is a proven, effective, approved anti-bacterial and is extremely useful in burn treatmet centers. To state that "colloidal silver is as effective against viral infections as bacterial and fungi" loses you credibility.
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