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need safe pain releif

my wife has liver didease (severe cirosis) ,has a tooth ache , what can I get her otc that will not damage her liver?
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446474 tn?1446347682
If your wife has servere cirrhosis ('decompensated cirrhosis' also known as End-Stage Liver Disease) Acetaminophen (Tylenol) is the ONLY analgesic she should take. The amount she can safely take should only be determined by her treating doctor. If she is listed for a liver transplant, all changes in medicines should be approved by the transplant center FIRST.

Taking a NSAID such as Motrin can get someone kicked off a transplant list, but more importantly, if they have decompensated cirrhosis/ESLD  NSAIDs can cause life-threatening internal bleeding, kidney failure and death.

A person with ESLD can not tolerate things that a normal healthy person can because their liver is failing to work properly any more. There are many seemingly 'minor things' that can be life-threatening or fatal in a person with decompensated cirrhosis. This is why a person with ESLD needs to be under the care of a transplant center hepatologist so they manage the many life-threatening complications of decompensated cirrhosis/ESLD.

Please get your wife the proper medical support she needs before so you know how to properly manager your wife's illness.
Good luck to you both.
Please consult with her doctor before making and changes to her drugs, diet etc.

Hector
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hrsepwrguy is correct, tylenol is the drug Most Liver doctors suggest, four extra strength should be the max in a 24 period. Anything with aspirin would not be a good ideal.
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1747881 tn?1546175878
"I believe that for people with severe liver disease that it is recommended to not take more than 2 grams per day"

Refering to acetaminophen
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1747881 tn?1546175878
Painkillers and Liver Disease/Hepatitis

Acetaminophen (Tylenol) is a medication used to control pain (known as an analgesic) and fever (known as antipyretic). It does this without producing the stomach discomfort often experienced with aspirin and other nonsteroidal anti-inflammatories (NSAIDs). This characteristic has made acetaminophen a very popular alternative to NSAIDs. In small doses (less than 4 grams per day, or eight pills taken over a twenty-four hour period of time) acetaminophen is quite safe for the liver—unless combined with alcoholic beverages (see below). (Note: each acetaminophen tablet or pill typically contains 500 milligrams of acetaminophen.) In fact, acetaminophen is the recommended medication for relieving minor aches, pains, and headaches in people with liver disease.

However, when taken in excessive quantities or when combined with alcohol, acetaminophen may cause death due to liver failure. In fact, an overdose of acetaminophen is the most common cause of fulminant hepatic failure as well as the most common cause of drug-induced liver disease in the United States. After acetaminophen became readily available in 1960 as an over-the-counter medication, it became one of the most popular means of attempting suicide. For liver injury to occur, acetaminophen must generally be consumed in quantities exceeding 15 grams within a short period of time, such as in a single dose. Although uncommon, ingestion of 7 to 10 grams at one time may  cause liver damage.

The consumption of alcohol in conjunction with acetaminophen significantly increases the likelihood that a person will incur severe liver damage. Therefore, people who consume alcohol on a regular basis should probably limit acetaminophen intake to a maximum of 1 to 2 grams per day (that is, two to four pills within a twenty-four hour period). Still, the best advice for people with liver disease is to totally abstain from alcohol.

People should take special note that acetaminophen is also an active ingredient in more than 200 other medications, including Nyquil and Anacin 3. Therefore, it is essential to read the labels of all over-the-counter medications carefully. Other commonly used medications, such as omeprazole (Prilosec), phenytoin (Dilantin), and isoniazid (INH), may increase the risk of liver injury caused by acetaminophen. It is always in the liver patient’s best interest to consult with a liver specialist prior to taking any medication.


Acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin) and other NSAIDs are drugs that are widely used for their anti-inflammatory and analgesic effects. They also have the potential to cause drug-induced liver disease. In fact, many NSAIDs have been withdrawn from the market due to their hepatotoxicity. All NSAIDs have the potential to cause liver injury. However, some NSAIDs are more hepatotoxic than others. NSAIDs presently on the market that have been frequently associated with liver injury are aspirin (ASA), diclofenac (Voltaren), and sulindac (Clinoril). Ibuprofen (Motrin) has been reported to cause severe liver injury in people with hepatitis C. A new generation of NSAIDs, known as the cyclooxygenase-2 (COX-2) inhibitors, has recently been approved by the FDA.  This group of NSAIDs has the advantage of having fewer gastrointestinal side effects – less abdominal discomfort and less risk of gastrointestinal bleeding, than conventional NSAIDs. There are three different COX-2 inhibitors currently available to the public–  Vioxx, Celebrex and Bextra.  COX-2 inhibitors have been associated with some liver dysfunction, although not as commonly as other NSAIDs. Recently, Vioxx has been removed from the market due to heart-related problems. Celebrex and Bextra are currently being investigated for similar heart-related toxicities.

     It is recommended that people with liver disease avoid using all NSAIDs. If NSAIDs are medically required for the treatment of another medical disorder, a reduced dose should be used for a limited period of time and only by people with stable liver disease. Older women with liver disease seem to be particularly susceptible to the hepatotoxicity of NSAIDs and are advised to avoid NSAIDs altogether.  Since NSAIDs may cause salt and water retention people with fluid retention problems such as ascites or leg swelling may suffer worsening of these conditions.  People with decompensated cirrhosis are at increased risk kidney damage stemming from the use of NSAIDs. Since this may lead to hepatorenal syndrome (see Chapter 6), people with advanced liver disease are advised to totally avoid all NSAIDs.  Furthermore, people with ascites (fluid accumulation) may not respond to treatment with water pills (diuretics), while on NSAIDs, as they counteract their actions. ( see chapter 20). People with liver disease who have had internal bleeding, - from an ulcer or esophageal varices, for example, may be at risk for recurrent bleeding induced by NSAIDs, and should totally avoid this class of medications. People who are also taking corticosteroids (such as prednisone), or anticoagulants (such as coumadin) may have and increased risk of complications from NSAIDs.  Finally, people with liver disease who smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol should avoid NSAIDs as they are also at increased risk for its complications.

http://www.liverdisease.com/painkillers_hepatitis.html

I believe that for people with severe liver disease that it is recommended to not take more than 2 grams per day as always it is best to discuss all medications being taken with a doctor that is familiar with your medical history
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Hopefully one of the more knowledgable members will come by, to answer this question, but until then, I definitely wouldn't give here Motrin, or Tylenol. Both those meds gave me severe cramps when I took them this year, and I only have fibrosis.
   Is there an Advice Nurse you can consult, via the phone, at your local E.R.?
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