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Dancing With the Stars

Wow! Anyone see the new lineup for this season? Starting with Paul McCartney's ex, Heather Mills, it's by far the most interesting list of "B" celebs to date.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2007-02-21-dancing-lineup_x.htm
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If you can get him to see a good hepatologist you'll have done a lot. Good luck,  Mike
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Thanks alot Mike! Your advice was very helpful and helps me to feel more confident that even with my limitations of what I know about cirhosis,what I do know can maybe be of help to him in weighing his decision not to tx.

I sincerly appreciate you reaching out to me concerning this matter.

I'll let you know how it goes.

thanks again.
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You ask "In your opinion or maybe based on knowledge you've gained over the years, once someone has cirhosis, they should make an attempt to tx and rid the virus, correct?"
Absolutely, unless his cirrhosis is so far gone that TX is contraindicated but if he's conducting services I wouldn't think he was that far advanced. Had the doctors and I known in 1995 what is commonplace knowledge today I might have avoided transplantation but, back then cirrhosis was believed to preclude treatment. I don't know that I could have cleared with regular interferon but I might have slowed down the progression. As it was I wouldn't have qualified for a transplant in 2000 had cancer not been suspected so I might have had a chance to keep my own parts had I attempted treatment early on.
I probably wouldn't anticipate being able to diagnose the condition of his liver so I don't think trying to formulate a list of questions aimed in that direction would be helpful. You know the basics and if he knows (which I doubt) his relevant blood markers you can just wing it and probably be close to the mark. If his platelet count is low we know that is not a positive indicator of liver health. I think you're goal should be to educate and encourage him enough so that he sees hope and possibility and seeks medical evaluation from a good hepatologist immediately. If he does that and is prescribed treatment and undertakes treatment you'll have plenty of work to do then. Often people need to hear success stories and come to see and believe that there can be a positive resolution to this disease. Even though he is a Minister he may still be dwelling in the dark with respect to HCV so go and shine the light. That's really all I would try to do and I'd go in knowing that sometimes people cannot see the light even when it is shining brightly in their eyes. Good luck. Mike
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Thanks Mike.

I do agree 100% that it is my responsibility to talk to the pastor and not just because I am a Christian or Jew or whatever, just as a fellow human being. I agree and I am definitely going to do it, but 'my approach' in how to handle it has been my true concern.

The stigma is what holds me back of sharing my own story.I don't want to feel like people are afraid to sit next to me if they know I had hep. Though I must say,I haven't seen anyone shy away from the Pastor.

In your opinion or maybe based on knowledge you've gained over the years, once someone has cirhosis, they should make an attempt to tx and rid the virus, correct?

I have learned alot on forum, but as far as cirhosis, my knowledge is very limited. I know I recently read on forum that there are different degrees A,B C (I believe it was in reference to child plough reference,,I may be saying this all ****-eyed and backwards).

But I guess one of the questions I should ask the pastor is if he knows to what degree is the cirhosis? I even wonder if he knows his geno type or if he knows what that means. I am very curious at this point how much his doctor has given him as far as information.

Many of us have found out the hard way that the doctors sometimes give us little info or incorrect info, and some give NO info,such as "you have hep, leave it alone and you can live to be 82." That was what I heard at my first consult. Some doctors amaze me.

But if you don't mind, can you give me some questions that might be something I can give him to ask his doctor about his cirhosis?

Last week the pastor mentioned how we all have to rid ourselves of stress as much as possible and he said, "I have terrible bone pain in my shoulder and I know it is because I have been taking on too much responsibility and have been very burdened because of it."

I was thinking to myself, yup he has the typical bone pain that we all get from hep and he thinks its stress, which maybe it is, but I couldn't help but think its the hep.

So any more thoughts or info is appreciated.

thanks
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Flguy said:

Sometimes I wonder if we get a little trigger-happy

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"We" get a little trigger happy? Whose the "we?" Making it sound as if your including yourself. I guess that makes it ok for you to say.

I'm not trigger happy, I shoot from the hip with a purpose and intent.

One more time, but I thought I made myself clear.

My question is why would anyone who basically stayed totally clear when a certain person was not only trigger happy, but slitting a person by the throat everytime they opened their mouth? Where was the concern of the "concerned citizens" then? It seems you look to defend this "new guy" 'just incase' we are wrong in 'assuming' he is up to no good.

Well we saw plain and clear that a banned person was up to no good for a long time. Where was the outcry of the MEN then? One or 2 maybe.

Sorry but as far as "changing the subject" viewed as being helpful,,that is not what I call helpful.

Thats the same if I was walking down a street in NYC and a guy came up to me and grabbed me by the throat and my husband offered the guy a stick of gum "just to change the subject" of the guy "KILLING ME". If my husband didn't pop the guy in the nose, he could pack his bags when we got home as far as I am concerned.

Now this "Lucky" guy. I guess he's not the big "R" either, yeah right. See this is what happens when "tolerance" is shoved so far down society's throat. People can't see clearly anymore because they are so afraid of 'offending.' They forfeit 'justice' for so called 'tolerance.' Or ooooh what if we 'offend'or what if we are wrong in our assuming,(even tho the evidence is very clear) Well thats how a lot of judges think today and thats why we have so many criminals walking the streets with us.

Btw. I am not mad at you either, not that you would loose sleep over it if I was.
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I'm going to jump in and give you my 2 cents. When you first brought up the minister with HCV you mentioned a reluctance to acknowledge that you have HCV. I have to stretch my imagination to relate to how you feel - and you're not alone Myown because a lot of people are unwilling to admit to having this disease. I had a transplant for HCV and possibly for that reason I never hesitated to admit having hepatitis c. Of course, having a surgery like that precludes any attempts at secrecy. But, I will say that when I was diagnosed in 1995 I didn't try to hide my situation - I put it right out in the open. I believe that just having this disease is stressful enough without having to exert the added effort necessary to conceal it. I am not naive and I realize that some people's work environment precludes coming out with the truth but I don't have that type of environment so I am, and always have been, open about it. I don't know your reasons for not wanting to admit to having hepatitis. If it is necessary to maintain a comfortable work environment then I agree that's the healthy way to go as far as your work is concerned.
From your posts I gather that you are a religious woman. From mine I assume you sense that I am not very religious. I believe in God but I am Jewish and so our belief systems differ somewhat. But, fundamentally I think we both believe in doing good and helping our fellow man/woman even when it isn't an easy thing to do. So, I think you should speak with him openly and honestly and tell him what you know and what you think he should do. We here at MH are somewhat consumed with HCV and as a result we know more about it than most people infected with HCV. When they need our knowledge, wisdom, strength, guidance, support and compassion it is our duty to help. It's the Christian thing to do and the Jewish thing to do. It's the thing to do even if we didn't believe in God. It is a blessing and honor to be of service to another and I believe sincerely that it is our duty as well. That's my take on it Myown and I hope that you're not sorry you asked for my opinion. Mike
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If revenire wanted to come back he would and you'd know it was rev without a doubt. He's a geek when it comes to computers. He is not here out of consideration for Cindy and if he really wanted to post he would under some variation of revenire. He would not masquerade under any other pseudonym, nome de plume, or nom de guerre. Of course, that's just my opinion but I have known him for quite a while.
BTW, did you ever say anything to the minister who has HCV - if you don't mind me asking?
Mike
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96938 tn?1189799858
What is it with you?  At least you are giving some clues about your personality.  First, you talk about your officemate, which gives a better understanding of your name 'hard core back'. And then you go on to say 'impressing women aint my style'. You've got a flair for the obvious, fella.  Or maybe it's just a flair. Leave me alone. I wish not to hear from you.  I don't think you want an editor.
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oh, men,  you oldies do know how to mess things up.. go talk about anything u wanted im outa here.. najeen, whoever u are, if u r too accept the fact that ur being mistreated here think again. u can hit the abuse botton too u know.. u got ur right to here.. and to u FIguy, impressing women aint my style, go try to hide ur rev persona somewher.. it stinks..


babayu.. mga gurang...
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Let me make it clear.  I object to you associating those beliefs, those comments and those attitudes with my name, as you very clearly did.  It was irresponsible and reprehensible and for some reason you are drawing a paralell to me.  Why?
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86075 tn?1238115091
that a few interlopers and intruders can make me go crazy for a moment, but I sure hope that the stress that they bring will not make us start going after each other on this forum, cause that's exactly what they want..anyway, tomorrow is another day, and if the Lucky's - (who just might be a woman) and all the fun little charecters of today are still here, maybe I don't need to be...I really wish everyone a good night...
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najeen
2/21/2007
C5  . I've never seen the show. What is it all about? People dance with movie stars and we watch? I don't want to offend anyone but that reminds me of soft core pornography. American Idol is bad enough. Anyone remember StarSearch?
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Now this is a guy that just wants to "blend in?" Whose humor does that sound like? Sounds like someone pulling some peoples legs to me.

Doesn't your job have something to do with human behavior of some sort?

This guy is looking for attention. Its impossible for people to hold a conversation in here without one of the 'personalities' breaking in to say something to stir. My remark to you was because it seemed you were defending this guy cause a few 'women' may have been tapping him too hard on the shoulder.There has been alot overlooked by MANY on forum for a long time and was just wondering why all of a sudden people being concerned. Why did this guy from 2004 just happen to show up now?

Okay, I gave you an answer and now I am finished.As I have stated before, I don't run for popularity contests cause I will never win. So if I offended you, it wasn't meant that way, just said what I saw.

So thats it for me. Tired of the drama.


At this point he can attack who he wants,no one will believe it unless he leaves a mark like Zorro.

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Upped my meds? Wisconsin? I think maybe you have me confused with someone else.

Why not just say it plainly? What is the issue?
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We've had a TON of whackos come and go who weren't Rev at all.  

That is unfortunately why we can seem a little intolerant.

After thinking and typing for a few days to someone then being told hahahahaha you idiots I'm just making fun of you - we've learned to be this way the hard way.

It's not always right but it's NOT always Rev.

I don't think he would stay away at all but he does like being Rev and as Mike said usually lets us know it is him.
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Is it okay if I post? I relapsed after 48 weeks and have hepatitis. Go look for revenire someplace else. Okay? I am getting tired of being accused of being someone I am not. Maybe I should go make a new name up and call myself revenireeee or something. Would that satisfy people? What is this obsession with revenire anyway? He's not even posting and people talk about him like they would like to be on Dancing With The Stars with him. Please, just leave me out of the hunt for revenire.
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I know what you're saying and I understand why he or his type would come back with a version of the name "REV." And actually he did do just that...v6 etc,as of recent.He definitely wants to leave his calling card.

Now its obvious that he can not get access to forum with those names anymore or if he does get access, he will probably get the boot under those names. He of course wants to use those names to show he cannot be stopped.

But the similarity I see in several of the 'new people' is the unique style of humor ever so slightly comming through. When Rev wasn't in a fit of rage or on a mission, he is a real funny guy, very unique humor maybe not all would appreciate, but I would read his posts and literally have tears rolling down my cheeks from laughing so hard.


That comment about dancing with the stars being soft porn is a comment that has him written all over it. I laughed when I read it, but of course I couldn't keep my mouth shut and let it slide. Why? Cuz I'm just as wacky as the next person I guess.

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LOL Myown!  Najeen goes way back to when I was treating! I knew you were thinking someone else but no its not!
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yeah but honey,,think of it,,that other person was here when you were tx too, so it would make complete sense that najeen would be here back then. He must have been a bad boy and needed to make up this character back then for whatever his reasons.

Let me ask you a question..Do you really really think REV would leave and STAY AWAY? lol If your answer is "yes," then I am shocked.



see ya, hope all is well!



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I have been here a long time and Rev has left several times, for whatever reasons. But when he returns he has always used a variation of revenire. I don't think any of these new people are rev - that is not his style. Mike
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no, i dont need an editor... as a matte of fact,.. my vocabulary's much wider than yours.. its just that i choose to be the one who does more typos here than you do.  ok, i'll leave u alone a u wished. just dotn rub the bottle again will yah! it gives me shiver, ur kinda scary. go on, do ur thing.. i'll just be reading dont worry...

bahu buli na kano.
thanks
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86075 tn?1238115091
everyone is entitled to their own opinions....and most people have a unique writing style and sense of humor, syntax, etc...along with the fact that there are just too many coincidences here, and clues given away, if someone's doing this, they love to give you clues, it's messing with you "more" when they give you obvious clues...

And all these names in one place and one time, with no introductions, nothing...if Najeen is who she says she is, my bad...but youre going to have to do a little bit of convincing as to Hardcoreback, Dickhead, Poonani and Tornada, and God knows who else, all showing up at the same time, with little to nothing in terms of real hep c information???...

And now we hear they're all doing the same thing at another board on here? Yet they really don't reference each other....Rev had just gone after me, big time, in the lowest way, out of nowhere, and he took a whole lot of heat for it from members here...right then these personas show up without any introductions, making sure that I validate that they are who they say they are, a few of them at least...Along with other members here he had problems with, in poems no less? a thing Rev loves to do? I've seen him write a whole lot of poems here, and the only other people who do that are Eyedeas Guy, and it sure aint him...you don't have to be Columbo...

I disagree that this is not Rev's "style" I wouldn't put anything past Rev, maybe it's some of his friends too, who cares? He's gone to the lowest of the low, and then some, on more then one occasion...and all these personas seem to be popping up just when he's gone...the guy likes nothing better then to stir up controversy, and have a bunch of people talking about him - look what's happening now as we speak...too bad he doesn't put his talents into some type of monetary gain, like working for the tabloids, where they pay you very well to degrade people and dig up stuff on people, why spend your time doing it for free, at some illness board? God knows...with all due respect to all the "honest" participants here...these are just my opinions...

As far as Linda McCartney is concerened, she's an animal lover and that counts as big points for me...and I'm a big, big Beatle fan, but John was my thing...
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86075 tn?1238115091
and i've been here a long time too...
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Yes you have been a long time. And apparently you've known rev longer than I have. But Scott doesn't play that way. He's right in your face all of the time. Why would he now pretend to be someone else? Maybe he's got me fooled but I don't think so. After your situation he came right back as v6 - he could have masqueraded then but he didn't. As I said, he does care about Cindy and he's not posting out of respect for her. And then again, maybe we're both wrong and he's pretending to be me. Should I make up a poem to prove it to you? No, I don't think so. Mike
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86075 tn?1238115091
I don't know if you've seen the latest post up there on the apology thread, apparently he's conceding that two of the personas are the same person and they all work in the same "office", and he's saying that he was schooled in English post colonization times, which would make Hardcore a good deal older then 20 or whatever...Anyway, all this nonscense is beside the point.... when someone is like Rev, why even predict what he'll do or won't do, why even care one way or the other? I certainly don't...I know youre more friendly with him then I am, and I respect that....but my intention is not to get on the bad side of you, as I get along with you okay, and I totally respect your valuable input here...and you do give valuable input that helps a lot of people...

And if I even care enough to expose this stuff (and he's doing a great deal to expose himself, part of the game you know)...it's only because I don't like seeing people being duped...mainly because they've not been around so long to know about the good people with the good intentions, and the people with the not so good intentions...

But I will allow, that this probably isn't my place, and I'm probably overstepping my bounds, which won't be the first time anyway...
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