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Garden Thread II

To see original garden thread (Garden Thread by Tippyclubb, Apr 23, 2009 05:32PM) please search.  If someone else knows how to make a live link, please do.

It's coming onto fruit season, believe it or not, in the Deep South.  I'll start picking goumis this weekend.  It's a cousin of russian olive, that makes a red berry which can be turned into exquisite jelly (do I have the energy?  Hope so).  A delicate flavor and gorgeous gold color.  Then I'll move to figs (wonderful fig tarts; a sweet short crust, open face and brushed with melted jelly), then concord grapes (terrific grape juice, better than Welch's).  I gave up on the strawberries; too many slug bites.  I watch everything out the window and the day the first bird lands on the plant, I dash out and pick everything.   MMMMM; can't wait.
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I'm back in the garden again!!! I turned the compost pile (don't think I've turned it once since it was built 2 mos. ago) and was very surprised to see that half of the pile had finished without me turning or watering and finished very quickly too.  I must have put the recipe together just right.  I guess when you are semi-brain dead your instinct takes over.  We have had steady rain so that made the difference.  Made of oak leaves and weeds, it really went fast!  I feel like I deserve it, I huffed and puffed and gasped so much gathering the materials.  I got a barrow load off the bottom.  See my new toy dump wagon on my photo page.  Don't know how people insert photos into their posts.  If I keep feeling a tiny bit better every day (and don't overdo today) I will take the bagging lawn mower and build and greatly enlarge the pile tomorrow. My husband came in this a.m. and said 'don't you dare try the lawn mower without a mask'.  Yes sir.  He knows that I am hard to hold down if the energy is there.  God, it's wonderful to need to be held down a little.

I've been off the riba and boceprevir for 8 days.  there's a bit of withdrawal there.  I've had awful night sweats and finally figured out that it was fever breaking every night.  I took Tylenol at bedtime last night and no sweats.  Duh!  My peg is just beginning to go down, since Friday 3 days ago was the first missed shot.   Painful heels seem to be improving, have hardly noticed them yesterday and today.  I'll be excited to see my bloodwork at the 4 week post.  Happy gardening!
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Think of where they occur in nature:  English is mild temps (not too hot, not too cold), alkaline and rainy.  French grows in big fields.  It's a good bit drier in southern France, where the fields are.  Spanish grows in mediterranean conditions.  Hot, alkaline and low moisture.

I live in the deep south and can only grow the spanish (have killed the others MANY times).  Try a high, sandy, well drained bed, with lime added if your soil is known to be acidic.
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ok guys, so i've learned to not plant diff species of lavenders in close proximity, it's like survival of the fittest, the other ones just die :(
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thanks, I don't have problems with garden topics.  I love gardening, nature...find it calming infact.  I think thats a plus.  Thanks for the welcome.  Franke566
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Hey Franke, nice to "see" a guy in the thread LOL.  Welcome

Denise
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put out some epsom salts.  not only is it good for your plants but the slugs can't handle it-they melt!  Go out late night or early morning before the sun rises and check out your plants with a flashlight to find what is feeding on them besides slugs and deal with them personally.  Pesticides are not environmentally friendly-end up in our water table via storm drains, creeks, rivers, ocean, aquifers etc.  franke
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I will put some out tomorrow.  The trick will be to get the beer into the saucer vs my mouth.  Lol !
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diatomaceous (spelling?) earth works on lots of things.  It is naturally crushed seashells and cuts their little bodies and dries them out.  I use stuff called Fruit Tree spray on EVERYTHING.  Not organic and I don't care LOL.  Sevin dust on plants, flowers or veggies.  The old timers used sevin dust on their dogs and in the doghouses and their dogs lived long lives back then.

dried snot LOL

Denise
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A slug trail looks like dried snot on a toddler's jacket.  Kind of shiney and definitely in a continuous trail, so you'd see it across the leaf.  Terribly common on hostas.

Not stale beer, fresh beer.  I buy big screw-cap bottles of the cheap stuff at a convenience store.  When it's fresh, the yeasty smell really draws them in.  Sink a saucer into the ground and they'll climb into it at night, where the alcohol dehydrates them (like salt).  Go out every morning and collect and clean the saucer.  Replace it every night until you stop finding them dead in the saucer in the morning.  I've caught 100's in a week.  Really works, a little gross, totally organic.
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No kidding, Franke's hummingbird photo is amazing.

I have to run to buy another feeder right now.

I have totally neglected coneflowers growing in absolute clay in the corner of the yard. Haven't meddled for years and they keep coming back.

Can't speak for black-eyed Susans, except hubby has long wanted them.

I can't give advice about bugs. I've tried so many approaches over the years, I can't remember.

I was surprised when a local, well-known horticulturist who was 'organic' before the term was coined told me to use Raid for the bugs on my Asian lilies. It does work but I have no idea about its toxicity. I tried the liquid dish detergent diluted in water as a spray and the results were so-so. Also tried the cayenne pepper spray, so-so. Hand-picking, great but who can do that anymore?

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You all must take a look at Frank's 566 picture of the hummingbirds--Fantastic
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Whats a shiney slug trail look like?  I heard stale beer in a bowl will attrack slugs and they die in the beer.  I didn't try it yet but think I will this year for the Dahlias, as they love those plants.
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I always  (unless I'm on antvirals!) add organic matter for anything I plant.  But..black-eyed susans and cone flowers are American natives that occur all over the country.  They should be able to hack it in straight clay.

Because of my liver, I am phobic about spraying insecticides, but the most effective one for anything that chomps a bite (caterpillars, grasshoppers, beetles) is carbaryl (also called liquid Sevin).  Much less toxic to mammals and more effective on chompers.

No shiney slug trails on the leaves?  An insecticide won't do a thing to them.
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I got the Black Eyed Susan for my clay area.  Do I have to prepared the clay with sand and all that digging?  I just want to dig a hole and be done with it.

The card says part shade but on line they say full sun.  The clay area gets late afternoon sun only ( 3-9 )  I wonder if they be okay there.  

One more question--what is the best spray for bugs in the flower garden.  Something is really eating up my Hydrangea leaves.  I have some spray just wondering what you girls use.  
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Husband went compulsively to all of the Memorial Day sales and brought home a wonderful present!  A dump cart.  Not too big but has four inflated wheels and can be released to dump.  Of course it's made in China and the nuts will require a pneumatic drill to get them on, but he loves to 'force' stuff anyway.  He's not allowed to touch plastic fittings but excessive muscle will be required for this.  I'll post a picture once I get it assambled.  Looks like I may get that 4 inches of live oak leaves off the sidewalk after all before a neighbor (or the mailman) throws a rock through my window.
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It's so great to hear what everyone's planting! It's finally a beautiful day in New England, but I'm embarrased to say I've still yet to finish my weeding, way behind all you folks! (Between paying for meds, helping the treating husband, and nursing new kittens and a newly developing knee/cartilage issue, haven't done much for the garden this year :| yet...)  Do have a new rose to go in though :).

Portann:  if you don't have the energy to get out there and water everyday, if your plants are somewhere that you can leave a hose out, you can get one of those timing devices that turns your hose on and off at designated intervals (couple that with a well placed sprinkler or two) -- sort of a poor mans's automatic sprinkler system.

Happy Memorial Day to all. ~eureka
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less is more  BUT  more is twice as beautiful  

That's my one and only profound statement for the week.  Lol !
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Yup, I'm zonked and wondering if I can drag myself out there today to water the poor babies. I still have to mulch and plant my new dinner plates. I could only find two different tubers (couldn't believe how gorgeous) and will pot them. I wanted them for the wedding in July but I'm about two months too late for that, I think.

I swore I'd stop shopping weeks ago but each time I go to a store, I walk out with yet another beauty I 'must' have.

And to think I believe a garden bed of less is more! By summer's end, it will be a jungle here. And I've lost my ruthlessness to thin.



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Everybody in their garden this holiday weekend? I have nearly gotten to the end of the pot graveyard that grows from my garage door.  Must have been a dozen pots.  Can't guarantee I will muster the enthusiasm to water them in the heat this summer, but at least they'll die in the ground instead of the darn pots.  Took all my energy to haul those 5-gallon shrubs to the back garden and I immediately talked myself out of the extensive soil prep I usually do.

Well they were easy things (if you water them) like azaleas & clethra and one lilac.  Lilacs this far south are like sheep here; just an animal looking for a place to die.  Let the sacrifice begin.  Only a swamp spider lily and 3 easter lillies left to go!  And I swore I would not buy a single plant this year!
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winner, thanks for the heads up.  We are planting this weekend, a bigger garden than I ever imagined  planting.  Hope it doesn't kill me LOL.  I was gonna buy Preen for weed control but my friend at the greenhouse sold me a 20 lb bag of corn gluten which is what the garden Preen is.  More for the money, lots more.  Hubby's adult kids are are supposed to help, we'll see how much help I get.  

Girls, I got 2 new stepables today, I will get some pics soon.  I also got a bunch of flowers for my pots on the patio.  I'll get some pics of them aftre they grow & fill in.

Denise
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forgot to spray soapy water on young bean plants .gypsy moths cut em down !   putting my cukes in the screen room also .   terrible year for moths in northeast !!  
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I know over fertilizing Rhodes can kill them---yes, I killed two of them like that--burnt them up.
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I never thought of that, to use peat moss around the shrubs.

My early rhodo had a glorious showing this year but it seems spent faster than usual. Is there some way to sustain flowering? I fertilize but can over-fertilizing result in a quicker show?

This is the first year in a decade I pinched off the extra buds on my peonies. They're going to be big melons. The garden thread motivated me! I hope everyone keeps those photos coming.
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GSD: For flower gardens my favorite mulch is shredded cypress (but it's pretty hard to find these days), with shredded cedar a close second.  I like to mulch w/ peat moss around the flowering shrubs (azaleas, rhodos, roses, etc.), but not the in flower garden, found it made the soil more acidic and wicked moisture rather than retain it.

Tippy:  nice plantings!
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