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Vitaherpavac vaccine?
Is anybody familiar with this therapeutic vaccine which is apparently available in russia?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19882901
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19882901
Hey,
If anybody has taken the vaccine, please let me know how effective is it.
I have been suffering from HEV 2 for a year and it completely ruined my mind.
Appreciate your response.
If anybody has taken the vaccine, please let me know how effective is it.
I have been suffering from HEV 2 for a year and it completely ruined my mind.
Appreciate your response.
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Do you mean HSV2?
It has only been approved for use in Russia. It doesn't cure herpes, but reduces outbreaks. You can get the same response from Valtrex or acyclovir.
Were you ever able to get your diagnosis confirmed? What if you think you have herpes based on a visual diagnosis and instead you have a fungal infection? It may be herpes, but you should find out for sure.
It has only been approved for use in Russia. It doesn't cure herpes, but reduces outbreaks. You can get the same response from Valtrex or acyclovir.
Were you ever able to get your diagnosis confirmed? What if you think you have herpes based on a visual diagnosis and instead you have a fungal infection? It may be herpes, but you should find out for sure.
I am not an expert to talk about herpes mutation, but HSV 1, 2, they have not mutated i think.
Hi everybody,
has anyone taken it? I have tried to ask and search for offical info regarding trials.
The main point for this vacinne I think it could be to be able to give immunity to those who don't have the virus.
has anyone taken it? I have tried to ask and search for offical info regarding trials.
The main point for this vacinne I think it could be to be able to give immunity to those who don't have the virus.
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This vaccine is for those who already have the virus. It's supposed to reduce outbreaks. It's not for immunity for those who don't.
Do you have herpes?
Do you have herpes?
Probably I have it.
I was asking for the possibility to provide immunity to those who do not have the virus yet. That would be great.
Why this vacinne can not provide immunity to a non infected person?
I was asking for the possibility to provide immunity to those who do not have the virus yet. That would be great.
Why this vacinne can not provide immunity to a non infected person?
It just isn't designed that way. Some vaccines work for those infected, others work as prevention.
Why do you think you have it? Have you ever been tested?
Why do you think you have it? Have you ever been tested?
Ok, thanks for info.
I thought that being an inactive sample of HSV, it could provide immunity in those who are not affected. I would like to know what could happen with someone not affected by HSV using the vacinne. I think I should have to ask for info to the lab behind the vaccine.
I thought that being an inactive sample of HSV, it could provide immunity in those who are not affected. I would like to know what could happen with someone not affected by HSV using the vacinne. I think I should have to ask for info to the lab behind the vaccine.
Yes, they would better be able to explain.
I haven't been able to find much on the success rate on this vaccine - some anecdotal stuff on reddit says it's not working all that well, but I don't know how true that is, but if it were really working, I think we'd be hearing more about it. Plus, to get it, you have to go to Russia, if what I'm reading is true. That's not feasible for a lot of people.
You haven't told me why you think you have herpes, or why you are so interested in this, and that's okay. I will tell you that pinning your hopes on a vaccine for the near future is not realistic. It takes years - literally decades - before a vaccine is ready for diseases like herpes. There's been a lot of attempts, and no success yet.
If you think you have herpes, just get tested. You may not even have it. If you've been tested, and have negative tests, then you don't have it. Work to find another cause of your symptoms.
If you are worried about transmission, suppressive therapy like Valtrex and acyclovir works to help reduce the risk. It isn't a zero risk, but it helps a lot. Instead of spending energy hoping for a vaccine, focus on what you can do right now to be okay with this. Test if you need to, and use suppressives. Get therapy if you need to. Do what it takes. Herpes isn't that bad for most of us.
I haven't been able to find much on the success rate on this vaccine - some anecdotal stuff on reddit says it's not working all that well, but I don't know how true that is, but if it were really working, I think we'd be hearing more about it. Plus, to get it, you have to go to Russia, if what I'm reading is true. That's not feasible for a lot of people.
You haven't told me why you think you have herpes, or why you are so interested in this, and that's okay. I will tell you that pinning your hopes on a vaccine for the near future is not realistic. It takes years - literally decades - before a vaccine is ready for diseases like herpes. There's been a lot of attempts, and no success yet.
If you think you have herpes, just get tested. You may not even have it. If you've been tested, and have negative tests, then you don't have it. Work to find another cause of your symptoms.
If you are worried about transmission, suppressive therapy like Valtrex and acyclovir works to help reduce the risk. It isn't a zero risk, but it helps a lot. Instead of spending energy hoping for a vaccine, focus on what you can do right now to be okay with this. Test if you need to, and use suppressives. Get therapy if you need to. Do what it takes. Herpes isn't that bad for most of us.
Thanks for your comments.
Regarding vacinne, there are hundred of brilliant minds in this world, it is strange that coronavirus has a vacinne in 40 days and herpes need more than 40 years to get a vacinne.
A vacinne in Russia exists, but there is no much info in Google, Youtube, going to Russia is something that most people will not do.
it seems that there is some paper about trials for this vacinne in some web, but i have not been able to download it. The topic is interesting.
Aloe vera, putting someone body in mental calm, umeboshi and a healthy diet, practically destroy any disease.
Regarding vacinne, there are hundred of brilliant minds in this world, it is strange that coronavirus has a vacinne in 40 days and herpes need more than 40 years to get a vacinne.
A vacinne in Russia exists, but there is no much info in Google, Youtube, going to Russia is something that most people will not do.
it seems that there is some paper about trials for this vacinne in some web, but i have not been able to download it. The topic is interesting.
Aloe vera, putting someone body in mental calm, umeboshi and a healthy diet, practically destroy any disease.
Maybe, a vacinne for coronavirus in 2 years, but i am sure some pharma will release it, sure, 100%.
Some diseases are harder to develop a vaccine for than others. Since Coronavirus behaves, in the body, like the flu, the foundation of knowledge to develop that vaccine already exists. Also, I think most people would agree that a vaccine for a disease (Coronavirus) that is highly infectious and has killed nearly 1400 people already this year is more urgent than a vaccine for a virus that isn't deadly.
There are many diseases that have had vaccines in development and trials for years, and that we would love to have a vaccine for, but it's not always that easy.
There are many diseases that have had vaccines in development and trials for years, and that we would love to have a vaccine for, but it's not always that easy.
Herpes infects and hides in nerves, making it harder to create vaccines than say the flu or Coronavirus.
And I've lived with herpes for 15+ years. I agree - put all the research dollars into epidemics of fatal and rapidly spreading things first.
And I've lived with herpes for 15+ years. I agree - put all the research dollars into epidemics of fatal and rapidly spreading things first.
I am not saying to research a vacinne to cure people with herpes just cure them.
Of course, always vacinnes for epidemics come fast, pharmas boost on stock market and then media does not talk so much about the epidemy.
Then, when there are no epidemics, it is strange that no vacinnes for diseases that have been converted in a permanent bussinnes appear (medicaments selling).
Bu then, another epidemics appear and then a new vacinne appear rapidly, spending citizen money in new vacinnes, funding research, etc.
This is a business. Herpes and supposed HIV, are a great businnes and chronic diseases. Why prevention vacinnes? They will reduce profits.
Of course, always vacinnes for epidemics come fast, pharmas boost on stock market and then media does not talk so much about the epidemy.
Then, when there are no epidemics, it is strange that no vacinnes for diseases that have been converted in a permanent bussinnes appear (medicaments selling).
Bu then, another epidemics appear and then a new vacinne appear rapidly, spending citizen money in new vacinnes, funding research, etc.
This is a business. Herpes and supposed HIV, are a great businnes and chronic diseases. Why prevention vacinnes? They will reduce profits.
Viruses are tricky. Herpes hides in nerve cells. HIV mutates. It's just not as easy as all that. If they find something that might work, it might not be safe in humans.
Coronavirus acts a lot like the flu, and this isn't the first coronavirus, so they already have research done. It's not just about business.
Coronavirus acts a lot like the flu, and this isn't the first coronavirus, so they already have research done. It's not just about business.
Most of the times, it is about business. Virus mutates, ok. But herpes is a simple virus that does not mutate. Just research a vacinne for prevetion, maybe funding some interns or PHDs who are willing to do their best to get a vacinne for this virus.
40 years later, no vacinne. yesterday h1v1, later ebola, later coronavirus, ten years later another one, but the most simple and lucrative ones are going to be there until profit goes down and maybe then a vacinne could be the last way to make money. Maybe another scenario, but in this world, negative energy, power and money are the pilars, and illnes is a great field for these three.
40 years later, no vacinne. yesterday h1v1, later ebola, later coronavirus, ten years later another one, but the most simple and lucrative ones are going to be there until profit goes down and maybe then a vacinne could be the last way to make money. Maybe another scenario, but in this world, negative energy, power and money are the pilars, and illnes is a great field for these three.
I am not an expert to talk about herpes mutation, but HSV 1, 2, they have not mutated i think.
No, they haven't mutated, but they hide in nerve cells, which means a vaccine has to be able to get into the nerve, which isn't all that easy.
Do you have herpes questions? We can go round and round about vaccines, but we aren't here to debate business and vaccine profit, etc.
Do you have herpes questions? We can go round and round about vaccines, but we aren't here to debate business and vaccine profit, etc.
Businnes is businnes, but i will stop the debate regarding this.
Regarding herpes, I was just asking for a vacinne that provides immunity to those who are not affected by it. That's why I asked if someone knows something about studies about these vacicine providing or not immunity.
I have been doing my own research about vitaherpavac and the fact that google and YouTube are trying to hide this vaccine..made me think that these basterds dont want you to find the cure. It's really not a cure, although I've heard that it does reduce the amount of outbreaks and if that's the best I can get.. then I'll take it. I'm gonna fly half way around the world and do it. It seems the cure for anything is hidden away because these ******** are making bank of selling prescriptions and that's sickening the fact that they would rather watch you suffer for their own benefit. I dont trust the doctors in the US because they are modern day drug dealers and thugs but paint themselves as good people. Shame on them, there is a cure..they just dont want you to have it. I truly believe if you can cure herpes you can cure aids because all viruses stem from the same family tree.. hence why chicken pox is closely related to herpes and many other viruses.
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Ugh, I’ve been doing my own research as well and found limited articles on this drug. Have you already had your vaccination yet? If so could you please get back to me about how it all went! I’m really curious to know if it’s a functional cure or it just stops break outs. I would like to know if it helps prevent the viral shedding that happens.
No one is trying to hide anything, but that's another story for another day.
Not all viruses come from the same family. However, chicken pox and herpes simplex do. Think of them as cousins. HIV is not even a distant relative.
I found this - https://rupharma.com/vitagerpavac/
It looks like it claims that it prevents future outbreaks. It doesn't mention anything about a cure, or anything about preventing shedding. Daily suppression reduces outbreaks and shedding, and you don't have to go to Russia to get that.
For now, it may be easier to work on accepting herpes for what it is, rather than focus on a cure or vaccine, which at the very best, is years and years away.
Not all viruses come from the same family. However, chicken pox and herpes simplex do. Think of them as cousins. HIV is not even a distant relative.
I found this - https://rupharma.com/vitagerpavac/
It looks like it claims that it prevents future outbreaks. It doesn't mention anything about a cure, or anything about preventing shedding. Daily suppression reduces outbreaks and shedding, and you don't have to go to Russia to get that.
For now, it may be easier to work on accepting herpes for what it is, rather than focus on a cure or vaccine, which at the very best, is years and years away.
Hi! Their approach is to do an immunogram first - you can get one at any HIV or pregnancy clinic. Good approach - seems consistent with the US practice where doctors recommend the only FDA approved shingles vaccine to people with strong immunities (see below)- funny no one mentioned an immunogram to me before. Vitaherpavac has a 60% success change - hope it works for me.
Also note that it was 10 years after sales in Europe that the FDA approved Zigran for occular herpes (just search for the new article)
Shingles Vaccine May Reduce Risk Of Shingles Outbreaks By 55%.
The Los Angeles Times (1/12, Maugh) reports that a study published Jan. 12 in the Journal of the American Medical Association involving "more than 300,000 elderly patients showed that the underutilized herpes zoster vaccine reduced the incidence of painful shingles outbreaks by 55%, even in the oldest populations." Shingles, "a painful rash brought on by the varicella zoster virus," may precipitate painful post-herpetic neuralgia and may also "cause vision loss if it spreads to the eyes." There is no cure for the condition, which is precipitated by the same virus that causes chickenpox.
Bloomberg News (1/12, Ostrow) reports that after comparing "75,761 members of Kaiser Permanente who received Zostavax with 227,283 unvaccinated members," researchers "found that one episode of shingles would be averted for every 71 people who receive the vaccine." Based on the study's findings and the fact that the incidence of shingles will increase as baby boomers age, family-practice physician Juanita Watts, of Kaiser Permanente's office in Glendale, CA, "said anyone 60 and older, including people who've had shingles before, can get the vaccine as long as they don't suffer from an illness that affects their immune system."
Hope it helps.. feel free to email directly
Also note that it was 10 years after sales in Europe that the FDA approved Zigran for occular herpes (just search for the new article)
Shingles Vaccine May Reduce Risk Of Shingles Outbreaks By 55%.
The Los Angeles Times (1/12, Maugh) reports that a study published Jan. 12 in the Journal of the American Medical Association involving "more than 300,000 elderly patients showed that the underutilized herpes zoster vaccine reduced the incidence of painful shingles outbreaks by 55%, even in the oldest populations." Shingles, "a painful rash brought on by the varicella zoster virus," may precipitate painful post-herpetic neuralgia and may also "cause vision loss if it spreads to the eyes." There is no cure for the condition, which is precipitated by the same virus that causes chickenpox.
Bloomberg News (1/12, Ostrow) reports that after comparing "75,761 members of Kaiser Permanente who received Zostavax with 227,283 unvaccinated members," researchers "found that one episode of shingles would be averted for every 71 people who receive the vaccine." Based on the study's findings and the fact that the incidence of shingles will increase as baby boomers age, family-practice physician Juanita Watts, of Kaiser Permanente's office in Glendale, CA, "said anyone 60 and older, including people who've had shingles before, can get the vaccine as long as they don't suffer from an illness that affects their immune system."
Hope it helps.. feel free to email directly
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With this vacinne, could it be possible to give immunity to someone not infected?
Are you referring to Zostavax? I can't find anything that shows there's been further study on this.
I am referring to vitaherpavac http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19882901
Could you please post your experience here or on any herpes forum (HCsupport) so we can see how well you respond. Good luck and thanks for sharing!
I am planning to be in Moscow late August and have arranged for this Vaccination. it is freely sold by several pharmacies and is readilly available at most hospitals/ Dermitologists. the treatment course is 5 injections, 2 days apart so 12 days or so. The vaccine is Euro 19 per shot, consultation is Euro 150 Its costs approximately $450 for the 10 day program.
You can also buy a what they call a medical box to carry the vaccine back with you and have it administered in your home country. After 6 month a booster/ refresher shot is also required. The way it works is that is helps human T cells react faster and fight better so one experiences reduced or no outbreaks
You can also buy a what they call a medical box to carry the vaccine back with you and have it administered in your home country. After 6 month a booster/ refresher shot is also required. The way it works is that is helps human T cells react faster and fight better so one experiences reduced or no outbreaks
It is kinda surprising that all the studies in the US do appear to be based exclusively on VLP research, and not inactivated virus strains, when it comes to HSV.
This is very interesting, and it's funny how I've never came across these vaccines in my earlier research!
Turns out, one of the earlier HSV1/2 vaccines has been available in Russia since mid '80s, according to the article titled, "Comparative clinical trials of herpes simplex vaccines developed in Russia", http://www.epidemvac.ru/pdf/epid_2(27)%20_dm.pdf (page 38 of the journal, available only in Russian, sans the English abstracts). This specific study doesn't have a placebo control group, simply comparing the two vaccines they have — I'd really like to find another article they reference, "Инактивированная специфическая вакцина как средство иммунопрофилактики при хронических вирусных инфекциях" (2002), which might provide a more subjective reference on how effective this therapeutic vaccine is, but looks like most of this stuff isn't online, unfortunately. If you do read Russian, some other interesting stuff appears here: http://www.biomedservice.ru/publish/pub51_Opportunic_infectionN2.pdf . But in general, I guess I wouldn't hold my breath that any of those vaccines would be approved by the FDA within the next five years, so if you research the concept and deem it worthwhile, might as well go to Russia to get therapeutically vaccinated, I guess. :-)
Turns out, one of the earlier HSV1/2 vaccines has been available in Russia since mid '80s, according to the article titled, "Comparative clinical trials of herpes simplex vaccines developed in Russia", http://www.epidemvac.ru/pdf/epid_2(27)%20_dm.pdf (page 38 of the journal, available only in Russian, sans the English abstracts). This specific study doesn't have a placebo control group, simply comparing the two vaccines they have — I'd really like to find another article they reference, "Инактивированная специфическая вакцина как средство иммунопрофилактики при хронических вирусных инфекциях" (2002), which might provide a more subjective reference on how effective this therapeutic vaccine is, but looks like most of this stuff isn't online, unfortunately. If you do read Russian, some other interesting stuff appears here: http://www.biomedservice.ru/publish/pub51_Opportunic_infectionN2.pdf . But in general, I guess I wouldn't hold my breath that any of those vaccines would be approved by the FDA within the next five years, so if you research the concept and deem it worthwhile, might as well go to Russia to get therapeutically vaccinated, I guess. :-)
I'm sorry but I have no details.
this was in testing there, not sure it's been approved to be available this quickly.
grace
this was in testing there, not sure it's been approved to be available this quickly.
grace
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