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Black bumps near the base of my penis? Are these warts?
I'm a 24 year old gay male. I have had multiple sex partners in the past. I also live down south where it's been really hot and muggy and i'm a type 1 diabetic too. I also keep my penis shaved.
I noticed these bumps around my penis a couple days ago...
first there's this one, it's on my pelvis near my hip: https://imgur.com/S4bEnGl
and then there's these near the end of my shaft near the base: https://imgur.com/lejUCSU
I've been wondering what these where and been feeling Very uncomfortable about them and want to get rid of them. I was scared it might be hpv or warts but I was vaccinated against hpv back when i was 16.
I didn't really want to tell my doctor about these (my doctor is a bit judgmental...) but I was planning on maybe going to the health department so i could see if i could get them removed but i'm worried the health department might not do anything to help me because they aren't hurting at all.
I noticed them for 2 or 3 days so far.
Does anyone have any idea what they could be or how I could get rid of them?
Please help!
another thing I should probably throw in, it's been a long time since i've had intercourse with anyone (not since September of 2017) i have received oral sex a lot this past year and have had one guy who laid ontop of me while our penises were touching, but i don't know if hpv can spread that easily. As i said i was vaccinated for it long ago...
i also was using an old loofah on my penis before shaving it too. but the loofah was getting old and i through it out... could it have something to do with this?
I noticed these bumps around my penis a couple days ago...
first there's this one, it's on my pelvis near my hip: https://imgur.com/S4bEnGl
and then there's these near the end of my shaft near the base: https://imgur.com/lejUCSU
I've been wondering what these where and been feeling Very uncomfortable about them and want to get rid of them. I was scared it might be hpv or warts but I was vaccinated against hpv back when i was 16.
I didn't really want to tell my doctor about these (my doctor is a bit judgmental...) but I was planning on maybe going to the health department so i could see if i could get them removed but i'm worried the health department might not do anything to help me because they aren't hurting at all.
I noticed them for 2 or 3 days so far.
Does anyone have any idea what they could be or how I could get rid of them?
Please help!
another thing I should probably throw in, it's been a long time since i've had intercourse with anyone (not since September of 2017) i have received oral sex a lot this past year and have had one guy who laid ontop of me while our penises were touching, but i don't know if hpv can spread that easily. As i said i was vaccinated for it long ago...
i also was using an old loofah on my penis before shaving it too. but the loofah was getting old and i through it out... could it have something to do with this?
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Comments having nothing to do with your situation? What about all this?
You posted a pic asking us to weigh in on what it was. On Aug 23, 2018, I advised: "You have to get them biopsied to know for sure. It's the only way."
You said you don't think it's warts because you were vaccinated. On Aug 24, I advised: "If I'm correctly understanding it, you're only protected against 2 strains of wart causing hpv. That means there's a whole lot of strains out there still left to get. Granted, those two account for like 90% of all warts or something like that, but it's something to consider. I'm also not sure if the vaccine gives you lifetime immunity or just a period of years. Something to research to be sure."
You said you wished you never got them and didn't want to know. On Aug, I advised: "You owe it to any future Partners to know what they are. Nobody knows better than me how unfortunate is to know whether you have HPV or not, but if you get them removed and act as if you don't have HPV when you do, then you are putting future partners Sexual Health at risk. Something to think about." I also advised that same day: "...if it is warts, and you wait two years, then the outcome is the same. If it's not warts, and you wait two years, then you spent two years solo you didn't need to."
You said on multiple occasions that you read warts clear up after two years. on Aug, 25, I advised: "Well, both are true to an extent. The virus never leaves you, but somewhere between 1 to 2 years, your body seems to get a hold of the outbreaks and the vast majority of people who experience warts find that they never have a wart again. However, those warts can return if you have some sort of immunity reducing event such as pregnancy or HIV or even extreme stress events can trigger outbreaks later in life."
You asked if my warts looked like yours. On Aug 26, I said: "Yes, they looked exactly like [yours] except they were not as brown. Mine were more the color of my flesh. Otherwise, exact match. Sorry to tell you this. Just biopsy and know for sure. Your call, though."
On Aug 27, a trained clinician told you they were warts. I responded: "Hang in there. For now, realize that our initial reaction is the strongest /worst. You'll be fine and life will totally be awesome. You'll have the virus for life, but you won't be contagious barring some atypical luck within a year to 18 months."
You said you still weren't sure they were warts. On Aug 29, I advised: "You'll most likely have to insist on a biopsy since they see warts so much they're not fazed nor concerned about them."
Also on Aug 29, I left you this lengthy post: "Yes, it is indeed extremely stressful. You are not alone. I'd think it strange if someone came here and posted about how unstressed they were about getting an STD for the first time. It sucks no two ways about it. However, that suckiness definitely dissipates so you have that to put on your calendar. I, too, didn't want a disease that I had to tell future partners about which is why I chose to not be sexually active until I'd gone way more than 6 months (damn near a year) without any new outbreaks. I hear you on how confusing it is so let me clear that up. Those who are in the know are correct when they say that the majority of cases outbreak for about a year and then show undetectable traces of HPV DNA after that. This means that anywhere from a year and a half to two years after your first outbreak, you'll most likely be in the non-detectable stage. Barring some immune suppressing event or extreme, extreme stress, or some other random thing (the virus still needs lots and lots of research so you cannot 100% predict its behavior), this will be your story. Who knows, maybe you'll only have one outbreak. It happens.
You can proceed however is best for you. The way I see it, you have two options. You can biopsy it and know for sure, go through the depression and grief stages and then come to terms and be cool with it as you wait to see if you have further outbreaks at which point you'll get them removed. Or, you can not biopsy, remove them, and live in a state of limbo wondering if was warts after all or not and if they'll come back and should you hook up with so and so or not and blah blah blah blah blah. Either way, if you have HPV, your future will unfold the same. Either you'll know or not know, and you'll either have the typical experience or some version of that most likely. Or, if you don't, you won't have any more outbreaks. To be honest, and I'm sorry for saying it, but I think you do have HPV. But, I must tell you as someone who has dealt with it for a long time, it's all good. If you have the time, go back and read some of my initial posts from 2010. You'll empathize big time and even think I was half crazy (which i was. I freaked!)"
You decided to take sand paper to your penis. Got scared about scarring and asked about it. On Aug 29, I advised: I've only had one wart removed to biopsy and there is no scar. I've had 12-15 treatments at various dermatologists over the years, mainly liquid nitrogen, but twice electrocauterization, and I have no scarring whatsoever. I looks like it'll scar, but then it doesn't. Obviously, treat your dick right during the healing process just to be safe."
You posted a pic asking us to weigh in on what it was. On Aug 23, 2018, I advised: "You have to get them biopsied to know for sure. It's the only way."
You said you don't think it's warts because you were vaccinated. On Aug 24, I advised: "If I'm correctly understanding it, you're only protected against 2 strains of wart causing hpv. That means there's a whole lot of strains out there still left to get. Granted, those two account for like 90% of all warts or something like that, but it's something to consider. I'm also not sure if the vaccine gives you lifetime immunity or just a period of years. Something to research to be sure."
You said you wished you never got them and didn't want to know. On Aug, I advised: "You owe it to any future Partners to know what they are. Nobody knows better than me how unfortunate is to know whether you have HPV or not, but if you get them removed and act as if you don't have HPV when you do, then you are putting future partners Sexual Health at risk. Something to think about." I also advised that same day: "...if it is warts, and you wait two years, then the outcome is the same. If it's not warts, and you wait two years, then you spent two years solo you didn't need to."
You said on multiple occasions that you read warts clear up after two years. on Aug, 25, I advised: "Well, both are true to an extent. The virus never leaves you, but somewhere between 1 to 2 years, your body seems to get a hold of the outbreaks and the vast majority of people who experience warts find that they never have a wart again. However, those warts can return if you have some sort of immunity reducing event such as pregnancy or HIV or even extreme stress events can trigger outbreaks later in life."
You asked if my warts looked like yours. On Aug 26, I said: "Yes, they looked exactly like [yours] except they were not as brown. Mine were more the color of my flesh. Otherwise, exact match. Sorry to tell you this. Just biopsy and know for sure. Your call, though."
On Aug 27, a trained clinician told you they were warts. I responded: "Hang in there. For now, realize that our initial reaction is the strongest /worst. You'll be fine and life will totally be awesome. You'll have the virus for life, but you won't be contagious barring some atypical luck within a year to 18 months."
You said you still weren't sure they were warts. On Aug 29, I advised: "You'll most likely have to insist on a biopsy since they see warts so much they're not fazed nor concerned about them."
Also on Aug 29, I left you this lengthy post: "Yes, it is indeed extremely stressful. You are not alone. I'd think it strange if someone came here and posted about how unstressed they were about getting an STD for the first time. It sucks no two ways about it. However, that suckiness definitely dissipates so you have that to put on your calendar. I, too, didn't want a disease that I had to tell future partners about which is why I chose to not be sexually active until I'd gone way more than 6 months (damn near a year) without any new outbreaks. I hear you on how confusing it is so let me clear that up. Those who are in the know are correct when they say that the majority of cases outbreak for about a year and then show undetectable traces of HPV DNA after that. This means that anywhere from a year and a half to two years after your first outbreak, you'll most likely be in the non-detectable stage. Barring some immune suppressing event or extreme, extreme stress, or some other random thing (the virus still needs lots and lots of research so you cannot 100% predict its behavior), this will be your story. Who knows, maybe you'll only have one outbreak. It happens.
You can proceed however is best for you. The way I see it, you have two options. You can biopsy it and know for sure, go through the depression and grief stages and then come to terms and be cool with it as you wait to see if you have further outbreaks at which point you'll get them removed. Or, you can not biopsy, remove them, and live in a state of limbo wondering if was warts after all or not and if they'll come back and should you hook up with so and so or not and blah blah blah blah blah. Either way, if you have HPV, your future will unfold the same. Either you'll know or not know, and you'll either have the typical experience or some version of that most likely. Or, if you don't, you won't have any more outbreaks. To be honest, and I'm sorry for saying it, but I think you do have HPV. But, I must tell you as someone who has dealt with it for a long time, it's all good. If you have the time, go back and read some of my initial posts from 2010. You'll empathize big time and even think I was half crazy (which i was. I freaked!)"
You decided to take sand paper to your penis. Got scared about scarring and asked about it. On Aug 29, I advised: I've only had one wart removed to biopsy and there is no scar. I've had 12-15 treatments at various dermatologists over the years, mainly liquid nitrogen, but twice electrocauterization, and I have no scarring whatsoever. I looks like it'll scar, but then it doesn't. Obviously, treat your dick right during the healing process just to be safe."
You complained about your experience with the doctor who diagnosed you. On Sept 9, Joe left you this lengthy response: " Look for a different doctor.
The way i look at this, if the doctor isnt helping, look for a different doctor... if the treatment isnt working, look for a different treatment... in all honesty, i think invasive treatment such as cryo and electro cautery is the most effective treatment compared to the topical creams... and if you check, the recurrence rate is higher...
Clearance rate for electro cautery is 94% in 6 week period... that is if you dont mind the scars..
It burns the wart and the underneath virus (supposedly) reducing the viral load... and stay healthy...
I beleive the immune response will work eventually... but as long as you dont clear the wart from the skin, you wont be able to start clearing the internal virus...
There’s Hpv Dna test already in my country for men, where they extract blood from you... Australia released the tech just last quarter of 2017... it seems that a lot of treatment and info about HPV isnt updated at all... they just keep promoting the vaccine by instilling more fear to the people... Men resolves the virus faster than women by a couple of months...
The norm of the virus is, our body should be able to clear it over time...
Again bro, it is frustrating, but finding the right doctor and the treatment that will suit you is an essential part of the battle to clear this...
And judging from this forum... there are active posters from before who doesnt post here anymore... what it tells me is the possibility that theyve finally won over the virus... and started living back to their normal lives... most of the posters here are mostly new cases...
You wont find success stories posted much in the internet, cos as soon as they are cleared, who would want to bother to come back and share their experience? Probably they dont wanna assume too much? Cos deep inside, they still feel that the virus is still in their body... since for some reason, they never bothered to develop hpv dna testing for men...
Thank you Australia for the breakthrough, atleast now, men can start monitoring their hpv status, with or without lesions... and check if they actually really cleared the viurs...
According to statistics, 85% of women will be infected with hpv by the time they’re 50... that’s a LOT... if they cant clear it, then the death from
hPv cancer would be way way higher... there’s a minority who weren’t able to clear it... but the way i look at it... not getting the suitable treatment or seeing the right doctor can be a big factor here...
Each of our body is different... what may work for you.. may not work for me... anyway bro, don’t give up and i suggest you to look for the right doctor... the way i understand wart is... the bigger it is, the less it is effective to use topical creams or Apple ciders... most of the people using apple cider vinegar experience recurrences... so you might wanna explore your options more... start looking for a different doctor...
Go to a dermatologists if you’re a male and OB if you’re a female... and start exploring your options...
You cant be less aggressive than a very aggressive disease... dilly dallying won’t beat it...
For treatment... my tip is... discontinue whats not working to stop the frustration...
SG245 Sep 09, 2018
i dont have any money at all... or insurance... i dont have many options when it comes to that.
SG245 Sep 09, 2018
and mine are actually really small. it actually seems like they're getting smaller. i used some of the applecider vinegar and it didnt have much effect on my skin but i only used it once. it seems like it's starting to work.
SkaterDave Sep 09, 2018
You'll have to do what's best for you, your situation, and your wallet, SG245. I'm with JoeWhite83, though. The best treatment method is electrocauterization or liquid nitrogen. I've come to prefer nitrogen, myself. I've never had a problem with scarring, either, and I've had a lot removed. It looks like it's going to, but then it doesn't. But, if money is your limiting factor, then you'll have to try these topical creams and stuff. I don't anything about them. Alternatively, if you can get into a free clinic, go for it. The sucky thing about warts is that they'll probably keep coming back for a while so if you can find a way to afford your periodic treatments, that'd be the best scenario in my opinion. Don't sweat it too much, though, if you're choosing to be sexually inactive for the time being. As long as you're not exposing others, it's okay to do it the way you want to or have to."
and I left you this response: "Maybe this'll help. Google these options for price and availability.
Side effect profile, cost, effectiveness
and convenience define the choice of therapy (Scheinfeld
et al., 2006). However, many patients respond extremely
well to home therapies with either podophyllotoxin or
imiquimod. Patients prefer the comfort and dignity of
home treatment, and this should be the first-line of
treatment for the majority of patients (O’Mahony, 2005).
Home therapy should be reserved only for initial therapy
of simple cases. Such approaches include podophyllotoxin
solution, podophyllotoxin cream, imiquimod cream and
adjuvant interferon gel"
The way i look at this, if the doctor isnt helping, look for a different doctor... if the treatment isnt working, look for a different treatment... in all honesty, i think invasive treatment such as cryo and electro cautery is the most effective treatment compared to the topical creams... and if you check, the recurrence rate is higher...
Clearance rate for electro cautery is 94% in 6 week period... that is if you dont mind the scars..
It burns the wart and the underneath virus (supposedly) reducing the viral load... and stay healthy...
I beleive the immune response will work eventually... but as long as you dont clear the wart from the skin, you wont be able to start clearing the internal virus...
There’s Hpv Dna test already in my country for men, where they extract blood from you... Australia released the tech just last quarter of 2017... it seems that a lot of treatment and info about HPV isnt updated at all... they just keep promoting the vaccine by instilling more fear to the people... Men resolves the virus faster than women by a couple of months...
The norm of the virus is, our body should be able to clear it over time...
Again bro, it is frustrating, but finding the right doctor and the treatment that will suit you is an essential part of the battle to clear this...
And judging from this forum... there are active posters from before who doesnt post here anymore... what it tells me is the possibility that theyve finally won over the virus... and started living back to their normal lives... most of the posters here are mostly new cases...
You wont find success stories posted much in the internet, cos as soon as they are cleared, who would want to bother to come back and share their experience? Probably they dont wanna assume too much? Cos deep inside, they still feel that the virus is still in their body... since for some reason, they never bothered to develop hpv dna testing for men...
Thank you Australia for the breakthrough, atleast now, men can start monitoring their hpv status, with or without lesions... and check if they actually really cleared the viurs...
According to statistics, 85% of women will be infected with hpv by the time they’re 50... that’s a LOT... if they cant clear it, then the death from
hPv cancer would be way way higher... there’s a minority who weren’t able to clear it... but the way i look at it... not getting the suitable treatment or seeing the right doctor can be a big factor here...
Each of our body is different... what may work for you.. may not work for me... anyway bro, don’t give up and i suggest you to look for the right doctor... the way i understand wart is... the bigger it is, the less it is effective to use topical creams or Apple ciders... most of the people using apple cider vinegar experience recurrences... so you might wanna explore your options more... start looking for a different doctor...
Go to a dermatologists if you’re a male and OB if you’re a female... and start exploring your options...
You cant be less aggressive than a very aggressive disease... dilly dallying won’t beat it...
For treatment... my tip is... discontinue whats not working to stop the frustration...
SG245 Sep 09, 2018
i dont have any money at all... or insurance... i dont have many options when it comes to that.
SG245 Sep 09, 2018
and mine are actually really small. it actually seems like they're getting smaller. i used some of the applecider vinegar and it didnt have much effect on my skin but i only used it once. it seems like it's starting to work.
SkaterDave Sep 09, 2018
You'll have to do what's best for you, your situation, and your wallet, SG245. I'm with JoeWhite83, though. The best treatment method is electrocauterization or liquid nitrogen. I've come to prefer nitrogen, myself. I've never had a problem with scarring, either, and I've had a lot removed. It looks like it's going to, but then it doesn't. But, if money is your limiting factor, then you'll have to try these topical creams and stuff. I don't anything about them. Alternatively, if you can get into a free clinic, go for it. The sucky thing about warts is that they'll probably keep coming back for a while so if you can find a way to afford your periodic treatments, that'd be the best scenario in my opinion. Don't sweat it too much, though, if you're choosing to be sexually inactive for the time being. As long as you're not exposing others, it's okay to do it the way you want to or have to."
and I left you this response: "Maybe this'll help. Google these options for price and availability.
Side effect profile, cost, effectiveness
and convenience define the choice of therapy (Scheinfeld
et al., 2006). However, many patients respond extremely
well to home therapies with either podophyllotoxin or
imiquimod. Patients prefer the comfort and dignity of
home treatment, and this should be the first-line of
treatment for the majority of patients (O’Mahony, 2005).
Home therapy should be reserved only for initial therapy
of simple cases. Such approaches include podophyllotoxin
solution, podophyllotoxin cream, imiquimod cream and
adjuvant interferon gel"
There is tons of great advice and information here. My take on you, since I've dealt with hundreds on this site, is that you were more or less in shock about the prospect of having HPV and didn't know how to handle it at the time. This is super understandable and happens all the time. It happened to me. You were so not wanting to deal with it that you seemed to choose not to listen to anything we said to you. Instead, you put duct tape over your bumps, apple cider vinegar and then took sand paper to them. That's very extreme, the sandpaper thing. If you'd have taken my advice and gotten them biopsied, you'd have known beyond a shadow of a doubt whether you had them or not, and you could have begun the process of feeling relieved or moving through the knowledge of having it.
Everyone processes this differently. I wish you luck with your method. Best of luck.
Everyone processes this differently. I wish you luck with your method. Best of luck.
My advice was sound. It was your clinician or doctor that sucked. Freaking out is a normal process of getting hpv. All you wanted to do was sand them off and live in denial. Every post you did screamed that. Rather than go and find out for sure so you could put it to rest or begin to deal with it, you chose to close your eyes and pretend it wasn't happening. You don't have to have sex to get hpv. Any skin on skin contact can do it.
Since you're all mad at me for you not having insurance, here's my final piece of advice: Get health insurance.
Again, best of luck with your journey. I hope they go away and stay gone.
Since you're all mad at me for you not having insurance, here's my final piece of advice: Get health insurance.
Again, best of luck with your journey. I hope they go away and stay gone.
I'm actually really worried about scarring now... does anyone think that's gonna happen?
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It's hard to say, but I'm pretty sure you'll be fine. I've been very worried about scarring in the past with some of the treatments I've received because it looks pretty bad at first. I've not one scar. You'll probably be fine.
Hi Skater,
How did the biopsy went?
By the way, does the wart usually turns white when applied apple cider vinegar?
Thanks
How did the biopsy went?
By the way, does the wart usually turns white when applied apple cider vinegar?
Thanks
Hey Joe. I ended up foregoing a biopsy opting just to remove it. I just don't care anymore, really. I'm good, though. I ended up going on a 3 day, water only fast to boost my immune system (studies suggest that). Hopefully that'll help in suppressing future outbreaks.
As far as vinegar, it didn't do anything to mine so at first it made me think my first outbreak wasn't warts. I guess it must've made some people's turn white or it wouldn't be a myth, but it's unreliable at best.
How you doing?
As far as vinegar, it didn't do anything to mine so at first it made me think my first outbreak wasn't warts. I guess it must've made some people's turn white or it wouldn't be a myth, but it's unreliable at best.
How you doing?
Well, just ordered 6 months worth of ahcc and beta glucan.
As of now im taking vitamin b complex, vit C, E, zinc and folic acid.
Had cautery last week... a couple of days ago went to see a urologist, he did a quick visual check, didnt see anything...
Now, it’s a wait and see period for me.. by the way, i did an oral swab for hpv dna testing just to make sure...
Me and the wife agreed to abstain sex until i resolve the problem...
I resolved this before, i think i should be able to do so again...
As of now, have to reduce stress, eat and sleep right and continue with the vitamins... cant wait to start with the Beta Glucan and AHCC...
As of now im taking vitamin b complex, vit C, E, zinc and folic acid.
Had cautery last week... a couple of days ago went to see a urologist, he did a quick visual check, didnt see anything...
Now, it’s a wait and see period for me.. by the way, i did an oral swab for hpv dna testing just to make sure...
Me and the wife agreed to abstain sex until i resolve the problem...
I resolved this before, i think i should be able to do so again...
As of now, have to reduce stress, eat and sleep right and continue with the vitamins... cant wait to start with the Beta Glucan and AHCC...
Joe, I have some questions for you. I just read a pretty cool article about ahcc and beta-glucan, and it looks pretty cool. How much did you pay for your 6-month Supply? Also, tell me more about this oral swab for HPV? Are you in America? Was it a kit? How much did it cost? I'm not concerned about oral HPV for myself, but I didn't know this was a possibility. Also, after reading your initial post again, I'm wondering the circumstances of this most recent outbreak? You said you've been clear for 5 years. Does this mean that, out of the blue, you suddenly had another outbreak? Is there any correlating circumstance that you have a hunch is responsible for it? From what I can gather of your post so far, I'm absolutely certain you will resolve it again. Out of curiosity, have you read the studies on 3 to 5 day water fasting effects on immune system regeneration? Studies suggest that it helps cancer patients going through chemotherapy. That's why I just did it, and I have to tell you, it was way easier than I thought. I felt fine the whole time. Consider it as another arrow in your quiver. If nothing else, it could go a long ways towards mitigating any anxiety you have and making you feel positive and hopeful about how proactive you are being. Anyways, as far as everything goes, I really have no worries about you and I clearing this most recent outbreak and going onto a future with no more warts.
Yep, been cleared for 5 years... and been naughty in betweens... it can either be a reactivation of the old virus or reinfection from recent exposure... saw 3 physicians, and they lean more on the latter... study showed that once infected with a strain of hpv, you are more likely to get infected with the same strain.. natural immunity doesnt really work, so it is actually possible to get infected with the same strain, or a different one of course...
I’m from the Philippines, did the oral swab and the hpv dna test will be sent in a hongkong laboratory.. result is due anytime now...
Speaking of reinfection, it is actually possible for one to clear the virus and be reinfected with the same spouse... hence, the explanation why older women sometimes “reactivate” their hpv...
Ive read about the 3 day water fasting too... i was actually planning to do the same... just need to prepare myself, cos it’s not going to be easy.
By the way, i was vaccinated with the quadvalent vaccine 12 years back, and decided to get revaccinated again with the newer 9valent vaccine..
Some study showed therapeutic effect from the vaccine in treating warts...
Well, we’ll see, trying everything we can, right?
I’m from the Philippines, did the oral swab and the hpv dna test will be sent in a hongkong laboratory.. result is due anytime now...
Speaking of reinfection, it is actually possible for one to clear the virus and be reinfected with the same spouse... hence, the explanation why older women sometimes “reactivate” their hpv...
Ive read about the 3 day water fasting too... i was actually planning to do the same... just need to prepare myself, cos it’s not going to be easy.
By the way, i was vaccinated with the quadvalent vaccine 12 years back, and decided to get revaccinated again with the newer 9valent vaccine..
Some study showed therapeutic effect from the vaccine in treating warts...
Well, we’ll see, trying everything we can, right?
Yeah, dude. Well, best of luck with all of it. Cheers :)
Hi Skater,
How are you today? After treating the single lesion both on hand and genital, are you wart free as of now? I think you’re nearing the end of your endeavor, i strongly believe that the wart is an old wart that wasn’t noticed from before.
Recurrence and outbreak isn’t the same.. recurrence according to doctors usually grows on the same spot as where the old lesions used to be. If your new wart grew on a different area, it is still a carry over from the initial outbreak.
Keep healthy and God bless.
Let’s keep each other posted and try to understand more.
How are you today? After treating the single lesion both on hand and genital, are you wart free as of now? I think you’re nearing the end of your endeavor, i strongly believe that the wart is an old wart that wasn’t noticed from before.
Recurrence and outbreak isn’t the same.. recurrence according to doctors usually grows on the same spot as where the old lesions used to be. If your new wart grew on a different area, it is still a carry over from the initial outbreak.
Keep healthy and God bless.
Let’s keep each other posted and try to understand more.
Hey Joe. Feel free to message my inbox if you wish or start new threads whenever. I'd say this post has run it's course...
Still, I appreciate your belief, but I'm pretty sure the wart on my shaft and the new one on my hand are related at least in regards to what triggered them even if they happen to be different strains. A few months back, I had the most intense set of circumstances all occur at the same time, and I had a serious emotional breakdown. It was so bad that I had to start taking anti-anxiety medication again. Then, a month into that, I shaved my shaft, and a couple/few days later, I noticed the new wart. Now, I think the recurrence (it's in the exact area where the previous ones were) was triggered by the anxiety breakdown, but also perhaps the shaving irritated the skin cells or something, too? I'm not sure. It's so difficult to theorize. Regardless, my future is the same. I'll be healthy and continue to move my life forward minding my thoughts and actions, and at some point, it'll have been another year since this most recent outbreak. Then, I'll go from there. That'll be your story, too. Talk to you soon.
Still, I appreciate your belief, but I'm pretty sure the wart on my shaft and the new one on my hand are related at least in regards to what triggered them even if they happen to be different strains. A few months back, I had the most intense set of circumstances all occur at the same time, and I had a serious emotional breakdown. It was so bad that I had to start taking anti-anxiety medication again. Then, a month into that, I shaved my shaft, and a couple/few days later, I noticed the new wart. Now, I think the recurrence (it's in the exact area where the previous ones were) was triggered by the anxiety breakdown, but also perhaps the shaving irritated the skin cells or something, too? I'm not sure. It's so difficult to theorize. Regardless, my future is the same. I'll be healthy and continue to move my life forward minding my thoughts and actions, and at some point, it'll have been another year since this most recent outbreak. Then, I'll go from there. That'll be your story, too. Talk to you soon.
the scar for me still hasnt gone away yet.
and no Offense to you guys but I really do not think it's a good idea to start a conversation on someone else's post... just saying... this is really stressful for me...
but i did get rid of the bumps, it's just the scarring now that im worried about. it's been about 12 days since. i been using silicone gel and silicone strips. it looks like a scar i had on my shoulder a while ago that eventually ended up healing almost completely. hopefully this one heals up too. it's a bit different for me because i have darker skin.
Well here's an update. i tried using some apple cidar vinegar on them. it had no effect, but i read somewhere that i had to 'sand the skin' to get an effect from it... so i did that, but apparently the sanding board i was using was too hard... i didnt even notice but i think i sanded it too deep. i'm kinda worried that it's going to leave a scar...
this is what the area looks like now: https://i.imgur.com/Ta41lNG.jpg
i really hope it doesnt scar. but even if it does, i'll just use some silicone strips and scar cream to reduce it. it'll take it a while to heal though i guess. but it's only been 2 or 3 days so far. I still have another bump that i havent treated yet, but once the Somxl comes in, i'll try using that.
i still am quite doubtful that they are/were actually warts because i got the vaccine and because it's been forever since i had intercourse. but whatever. either way, the immune system should clear the virus in 2 years if i even have it. I never got them biopsied at all (and i couldn't get them biopsied either because i had no way of getting that.)
i just hope my penis heals up so i can forget about all of this and move on. mean while, no one has any business going anywhere near my penis.
this is what the area looks like now: https://i.imgur.com/Ta41lNG.jpg
i really hope it doesnt scar. but even if it does, i'll just use some silicone strips and scar cream to reduce it. it'll take it a while to heal though i guess. but it's only been 2 or 3 days so far. I still have another bump that i havent treated yet, but once the Somxl comes in, i'll try using that.
i still am quite doubtful that they are/were actually warts because i got the vaccine and because it's been forever since i had intercourse. but whatever. either way, the immune system should clear the virus in 2 years if i even have it. I never got them biopsied at all (and i couldn't get them biopsied either because i had no way of getting that.)
i just hope my penis heals up so i can forget about all of this and move on. mean while, no one has any business going anywhere near my penis.
I'm just going to try using some Apple Cider Vinegar on them instead. i should have never gotten them checked out because it was a total waste of time and did no good -_-
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P.S. i dont mean to seem rude or anything. im just angry about how none of the doctors helped me at all.
Look for a different doctor.
The way i look at this, if the doctor isnt helping, look for a different doctor... if the treatment isnt working, look for a different treatment... in all honesty, i think invasive treatment such as cryo and electro cautery is the most effective treatment compared to the topical creams... and if you check, the recurrence rate is higher...
Clearance rate for electro cautery is 94% in 6 week period... that is if you dont mind the scars..
It burns the wart and the underneath virus (supposedly) reducing the viral load... and stay healthy...
I beleive the immune response will work eventually... but as long as you dont clear the wart from the skin, you wont be able to start clearing the internal virus...
There’s Hpv Dna test already in my country for men, where they extract blood from you... Australia released the tech just last quarter of 2017... it seems that a lot of treatment and info about HPV isnt updated at all... they just keep promoting the vaccine by instilling more fear to the people... Men resolves the virus faster than women by a couple of months...
The norm of the virus is, our body should be able to clear it over time...
Again bro, it is frustrating, but finding the right doctor and the treatment that will suit you is an essential part of the battle to clear this...
And judging from this forum... there are active posters from before who doesnt post here anymore... what it tells me is the possibility that theyve finally won over the virus... and started living back to their normal lives... most of the posters here are mostly new cases...
You wont find success stories posted much in the internet, cos as soon as they are cleared, who would want to bother to come back and share their experience? Probably they dont wanna assume too much? Cos deep inside, they still feel that the virus is still in their body... since for some reason, they never bothered to develop hpv dna testing for men...
Thank you Australia for the breakthrough, atleast now, men can start monitoring their hpv status, with or without lesions... and check if they actually really cleared the viurs...
According to statistics, 85% of women will be infected with hpv by the time they’re 50... that’s a LOT... if they cant clear it, then the death from
hPv cancer would be way way higher... there’s a minority who weren’t able to clear it... but the way i look at it... not getting the suitable treatment or seeing the right doctor can be a big factor here...
Each of our body is different... what may work for you.. may not work for me... anyway bro, don’t give up and i suggest you to look for the right doctor... the way i understand wart is... the bigger it is, the less it is effective to use topical creams or Apple ciders... most of the people using apple cider vinegar experience recurrences... so you might wanna explore your options more... start looking for a different doctor...
Go to a dermatologists if you’re a male and OB if you’re a female... and start exploring your options...
You cant be less aggressive than a very aggressive disease... dilly dallying won’t beat it...
For treatment... my tip is... discontinue whats not working to stop the frustration...
The way i look at this, if the doctor isnt helping, look for a different doctor... if the treatment isnt working, look for a different treatment... in all honesty, i think invasive treatment such as cryo and electro cautery is the most effective treatment compared to the topical creams... and if you check, the recurrence rate is higher...
Clearance rate for electro cautery is 94% in 6 week period... that is if you dont mind the scars..
It burns the wart and the underneath virus (supposedly) reducing the viral load... and stay healthy...
I beleive the immune response will work eventually... but as long as you dont clear the wart from the skin, you wont be able to start clearing the internal virus...
There’s Hpv Dna test already in my country for men, where they extract blood from you... Australia released the tech just last quarter of 2017... it seems that a lot of treatment and info about HPV isnt updated at all... they just keep promoting the vaccine by instilling more fear to the people... Men resolves the virus faster than women by a couple of months...
The norm of the virus is, our body should be able to clear it over time...
Again bro, it is frustrating, but finding the right doctor and the treatment that will suit you is an essential part of the battle to clear this...
And judging from this forum... there are active posters from before who doesnt post here anymore... what it tells me is the possibility that theyve finally won over the virus... and started living back to their normal lives... most of the posters here are mostly new cases...
You wont find success stories posted much in the internet, cos as soon as they are cleared, who would want to bother to come back and share their experience? Probably they dont wanna assume too much? Cos deep inside, they still feel that the virus is still in their body... since for some reason, they never bothered to develop hpv dna testing for men...
Thank you Australia for the breakthrough, atleast now, men can start monitoring their hpv status, with or without lesions... and check if they actually really cleared the viurs...
According to statistics, 85% of women will be infected with hpv by the time they’re 50... that’s a LOT... if they cant clear it, then the death from
hPv cancer would be way way higher... there’s a minority who weren’t able to clear it... but the way i look at it... not getting the suitable treatment or seeing the right doctor can be a big factor here...
Each of our body is different... what may work for you.. may not work for me... anyway bro, don’t give up and i suggest you to look for the right doctor... the way i understand wart is... the bigger it is, the less it is effective to use topical creams or Apple ciders... most of the people using apple cider vinegar experience recurrences... so you might wanna explore your options more... start looking for a different doctor...
Go to a dermatologists if you’re a male and OB if you’re a female... and start exploring your options...
You cant be less aggressive than a very aggressive disease... dilly dallying won’t beat it...
For treatment... my tip is... discontinue whats not working to stop the frustration...
i dont have any money at all... or insurance... i dont have many options when it comes to that.
and mine are actually really small. it actually seems like they're getting smaller. i used some of the applecider vinegar and it didnt have much effect on my skin but i only used it once. it seems like it's starting to work.
You'll have to do what's best for you, your situation, and your wallet, SG245. I'm with JoeWhite83, though. The best treatment method is electrocauterization or liquid nitrogen. I've come to prefer nitrogen, myself. I've never had a problem with scarring, either, and I've had a lot removed. It looks like it's going to, but then it doesn't. But, if money is your limiting factor, then you'll have to try these topical creams and stuff. I don't anything about them. Alternatively, if you can get into a free clinic, go for it. The sucky thing about warts is that they'll probably keep coming back for a while so if you can find a way to afford your periodic treatments, that'd be the best scenario in my opinion. Don't sweat it too much, though, if you're choosing to be sexually inactive for the time being. As long as you're not exposing others, it's okay to do it the way you want to or have to.
i'm not going to do anything sexual with anyone until the bumps are gone. part of me still thinks they aren't warts anyway, but the apple cider vinegar should help.
Maybe this'll help. Google these options for price and availability.
Side effect profile, cost, effectiveness
and convenience define the choice of therapy (Scheinfeld
et al., 2006). However, many patients respond extremely
well to home therapies with either podophyllotoxin or
imiquimod. Patients prefer the comfort and dignity of
home treatment, and this should be the first-line of
treatment for the majority of patients (O’Mahony, 2005).
Home therapy should be reserved only for initial therapy
of simple cases. Such approaches include podophyllotoxin
solution, podophyllotoxin cream, imiquimod cream and
adjuvant interferon gel
Side effect profile, cost, effectiveness
and convenience define the choice of therapy (Scheinfeld
et al., 2006). However, many patients respond extremely
well to home therapies with either podophyllotoxin or
imiquimod. Patients prefer the comfort and dignity of
home treatment, and this should be the first-line of
treatment for the majority of patients (O’Mahony, 2005).
Home therapy should be reserved only for initial therapy
of simple cases. Such approaches include podophyllotoxin
solution, podophyllotoxin cream, imiquimod cream and
adjuvant interferon gel
i was thinking of trying Somxl
Sounds good. If you don't mind, can you start a new thread someday down the road sharing your experience with it? It'd make a great resource for someone searching for info and answers, I'd think. Best of luck.
thank you ♥ i'll definitely need the luck. and Yes, I definitely will make a thread about it.
i just really hope that in the end of it all, my body/immune system will be able to beat this virus.
i just really hope that in the end of it all, my body/immune system will be able to beat this virus.
and i really hope i don't have it at all to be honest
Just know that if you do have it, it's only a small bump in the road of life (pun intended). Does it suck while it's happening? Yes. It's waiting and wondering if another outbreak is right around the corner? Most definitely. But it's only a year or two that you're face to face with it so take this time to persue/develop other parts of your life. You'll be fine in the end. Cheers, buddy.
i just keep reading your comment you posted here a long time ago: https://www.medhelp.org/posts/Human-Papillomavirus-HPV/i-hate-you-hpv/show/1713996
when you told her, "you'll be done with the virus by 2014". I keep trying to tell myself, "you'll be done with the virus by 2020" if i have it that is.
when you told her, "you'll be done with the virus by 2014". I keep trying to tell myself, "you'll be done with the virus by 2020" if i have it that is.
I wonder of those commenters are just waiting for the warts to disappear on their own? Of are they aggressively addressing the symptoms... addressing the symptoms may actually help in the clearance process, the warts contain huge amount of the virus, without getting rid of them will not help... waiting and seeing will not help!
Keep a healthy immune system to fight off whats inside, and let your doctor fight what’s outside... it needs a double front battle... many will and have cleared the virus overtime...
Stress and anxiety lowers immune system...
An effective, normal functioning immune system will do it’s job... for people with recurrent problems, there might be something wrong with their body beyond the hpv already...
Check their lifestyles, and other health concerns, if they have diabetes, anemia or other conditions.. people with other health conditions make it less likely for them to clear the virus, so addressing other conditions might be a good idea to help their own body out.
Keep a healthy immune system to fight off whats inside, and let your doctor fight what’s outside... it needs a double front battle... many will and have cleared the virus overtime...
Stress and anxiety lowers immune system...
An effective, normal functioning immune system will do it’s job... for people with recurrent problems, there might be something wrong with their body beyond the hpv already...
Check their lifestyles, and other health concerns, if they have diabetes, anemia or other conditions.. people with other health conditions make it less likely for them to clear the virus, so addressing other conditions might be a good idea to help their own body out.
Geez, that's an oldie but goodie, I'd say. It's crazy to think I got my first wart in 2010. What really sucks is I just had another one burnt off with liquid nitrogen on tuesday. My records showed that it'd been exactly one year since my last outbreak. I had a wart on my hand, too. They say genital warts don't like to infect regular skin and vice versa, but I'm doubtful. I think my hand and genital warts are related. Also, I think JoeWhite83 makes a good point about stress and anxiety. I am diagnosed with pretty severe general anxiety disorder, and it seems as if there is a correlation between my last major anxiety flare up (due to a quadruple whammy of life events) and this outbreak. I really wish that my experience was the typical one where you have them for a year, wait six months and you're good. Since I've had wart outbreaks three separate times, I can say the first two outbreaks were exactly like that, but this last round has been strange. I've had much more stress these last two years so my only real takeaway I can lean on from it is anxiety related immuno-suppression. Oh, well. Life is still good in most ways and I'm extremely healthy otherwise so I've not much to complain about. Anyway.... peace
Currently, im still dealing with the outbreak, i am a family man... and it’s not easy... like you, im having anxiety attacks once in a while... trying to fight it though...
Returned to my derm 3x to have warts burned.. warts growing in different areas, the once burned off, stays away, but 1 small one keeps growing elsewhere... i think its not a good idea to keep burning the small warts while its growing, since many may still come out later... probably have to wait till my body learns to deal with it..
Whats your advice? By the way, i am afraid that it may grow in our anal area... whats the possibility of that? Whats your take on this?
Returned to my derm 3x to have warts burned.. warts growing in different areas, the once burned off, stays away, but 1 small one keeps growing elsewhere... i think its not a good idea to keep burning the small warts while its growing, since many may still come out later... probably have to wait till my body learns to deal with it..
Whats your advice? By the way, i am afraid that it may grow in our anal area... whats the possibility of that? Whats your take on this?
well, just an update for everyone. I don't really have the 'bumps' anymore... except for one that i havent gotten to yet. But i do have black scabs now. I tried treating them myself with apple cidar vinegar. it had no effect at first but then i tried sanding it down (it hurt and started to bleed) but that's when i put the apple cidar vinegar on them and it stung. now i just have scabs where they use to be. i'm going to give it a week or so to heal. im not going to put anymore on though.
i still dont know for sure weather it actually is hpv or not but whatever it is, i hope it doesn't come back. either way, i really don't believe hpv actually stays in a persons body forever. i think some people just have a harder time clearing it from their bodies and just take longer. but whatever the case, i hope everything goes good for everyone. i'll update you on how things work out for me.
i still dont know for sure weather it actually is hpv or not but whatever it is, i hope it doesn't come back. either way, i really don't believe hpv actually stays in a persons body forever. i think some people just have a harder time clearing it from their bodies and just take longer. but whatever the case, i hope everything goes good for everyone. i'll update you on how things work out for me.
The first dark one looks like a mole to me, I have lots of them.
The other ones I am not sure. It looks sort of like what I have. Might be skin tags or a sebaceous thing. Let us know what the doctor says.
The other ones I am not sure. It looks sort of like what I have. Might be skin tags or a sebaceous thing. Let us know what the doctor says.
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I should add it doesnt seem likely given your sexual activity lately plus the vaccine but get checked out. Im curious to know what they are.
i actually just out some duct tape on them and i'll wait till they go away on their own.
That still wont tell you if they are warts or something else
i honestly don't think i want to know what they are. I just want them off.
You owe it to any future Partners to know what they are. Nobody knows better than me how unfortunate is to know whether you have HPV or not, but if you get them removed and act as if you don't have HPV when you do, then you are putting future partners Sexual Health at risk. Something to think about.
but i read that hpv clears up after 2 years at most. and i wasn't going to do anything sexual with anyone until the bumps are gone. Plus I was vaccinated for hpv so that shouldnt be it.
Well, you're right on that account. Sorry, I didn't consider that. Still, if it is warts, and you wait two years, then the outcome is the same. If it's not warts, and you wait two years, then you spent two years solo you didn't need to.
I feel where you're coming from, though. When I got warts, my whole wold turned upside down just like it does for the majority of folk judging from the posts here over the years. I, too, didn't have any partners for two years. Eventually, the stigma wore off and I saw it for what is it, a commonly acquired virus with no adverse health effects (the warts, not the high-risk type) that nearly everyone will have in their lifetime.
I'm not vaccinated, but if I'm correctly understanding it, you're only protected against 2 strains of wart causing hpv. That means there's a whole lot of strains out there still left to get. Granted, those two account for like 90% of all warts or something like that, but it's something to consider. I'm also not sure if the vaccine gives you lifetime immunity or just a period of years. Something to research to be sure. Anyway, best of luck and take care.
I feel where you're coming from, though. When I got warts, my whole wold turned upside down just like it does for the majority of folk judging from the posts here over the years. I, too, didn't have any partners for two years. Eventually, the stigma wore off and I saw it for what is it, a commonly acquired virus with no adverse health effects (the warts, not the high-risk type) that nearly everyone will have in their lifetime.
I'm not vaccinated, but if I'm correctly understanding it, you're only protected against 2 strains of wart causing hpv. That means there's a whole lot of strains out there still left to get. Granted, those two account for like 90% of all warts or something like that, but it's something to consider. I'm also not sure if the vaccine gives you lifetime immunity or just a period of years. Something to research to be sure. Anyway, best of luck and take care.
do you still suffer from warts to this day? did the virus clear up for you? does it really clear up? back in highschool they told me that it never goes away.
Well, both are true to an extent. The virus never leaves you, but somewhere between 1 to 2 years, your body seems to get a hold of the outbreaks and the vast majority of people who experience warts find that they never have a wart again. However, those warts can return if you have some sort of immunity reducing event such as pregnancy or HIV or even extreme stress events can trigger outbreaks later in life. I first had warts the entire year of 2010. I started having sex again in 2012, and in 2014 I got them again. I think it was an infection of a different strain. That lasted about a year as well. Then, in 2017, I had another outbreak which I think it was because of extreme stress and an old strain re-emerged that lasted just four or five months. I haven't seen a wart since then.
If you truly have warts, you should see more bumps sometime in the next few months or even weeks if you're typical. I'd recommend a biopsy, but that's just me because the not knowing is worse than knowing. Plus, if it's not, you don't have to sit out two-ish years.
If you truly have warts, you should see more bumps sometime in the next few months or even weeks if you're typical. I'd recommend a biopsy, but that's just me because the not knowing is worse than knowing. Plus, if it's not, you don't have to sit out two-ish years.
i'm really sorry you went through that.
just one question, you said you have had genital warts before, did they look like what i have?
Yes, they looked exactly like that except they were not as brown. Mine were more the color of my flesh. Otherwise, exact match. Sorry to tell you this. Just biopsy and know for sure. Your call, though.
Are they hard and firm? Soft and squishy?
Again im doubtful with you not having sex in a year plus the vaccine that they are warts. But we honestly cant diagnose you here.
Again im doubtful with you not having sex in a year plus the vaccine that they are warts. But we honestly cant diagnose you here.
oh ok. ill try to get them checked out this morning if the health department does anything about them. and they aren't really 'hard or firm'. I had a wart on my foot once and it was nothing like these. They haven't been spreading since i noticed them either. they seem to be more soft and squishy.
Well, I have some Very bad news right now... I just got back from the clinic and the doctor that they had me see told me that they are genital warts. she didnt biopsy them or anything. I asked her "is there a chance it's anything else" but she told me that she was pretty sure that they are genital warts, and then she just rambled on and on a bunch of facts at me, almost like she was trying to drown out all my questions.
Then I asked her is it 'permanent' and doesn't the virus clear up in 2 years, like I read online, THEN to add insult to injury, she told me that only the hpv that effects women's cervix will clear up in 2 years but the kind that causes warts are permanent... she then told me that I "don't have to get them removed" (LIKE I SERIOUSLY WANT WARTS ON MY PENIS???) but then she said i could go to a dermatologist and then she basically rushed me out.
Idk where I stand right now to be honest... I should feel 'shattered' and 'broken' and extremely depressed right now, but I just feel very numb...
Then I asked her is it 'permanent' and doesn't the virus clear up in 2 years, like I read online, THEN to add insult to injury, she told me that only the hpv that effects women's cervix will clear up in 2 years but the kind that causes warts are permanent... she then told me that I "don't have to get them removed" (LIKE I SERIOUSLY WANT WARTS ON MY PENIS???) but then she said i could go to a dermatologist and then she basically rushed me out.
Idk where I stand right now to be honest... I should feel 'shattered' and 'broken' and extremely depressed right now, but I just feel very numb...
Sorry but she was wrong. The high risk strains that can cause cancer can stick around for years like hpv 16, 18. Low risk/wart strains like hpv 6 and 11 clear up faster.
Can you not get a referral to a dermatologist?
Can you not get a referral to a dermatologist?
Cervical cancer i mean. Thats why women need to get regular pap tests done in case the virus stays in the cervical cells. Thats the whole point of the pap smear test. This doc sounds like an idiot. Get a second opinion
i'm not sure about the dermatologist But they did give me a number to call. I called the number they gave me but i'm waiting to get a call back from them because i was 'on hold'.
I was just really bummed out about having a diseases that i had to worry about passing on really :( i know i'm still not 100% sure weather i have it or not, but it's still bothering me.
I'm going to try to get in touch with the dermatologist though. Something did seem a bit backwards about that doctor i saw at the free clinic though. she also told me that warts never go away unless i have them removed, even though i read that it is possible that they clear up on their own.
I was just really bummed out about having a diseases that i had to worry about passing on really :( i know i'm still not 100% sure weather i have it or not, but it's still bothering me.
I'm going to try to get in touch with the dermatologist though. Something did seem a bit backwards about that doctor i saw at the free clinic though. she also told me that warts never go away unless i have them removed, even though i read that it is possible that they clear up on their own.
and I agree with you, this doctor did seem like a total idiot. She was even cutting me off when i was trying to ask her stuff. I'm going to try getting in touch with the dermatologist to see if i could have them biopsied.
I guess this is the beauty of being broke and having to go to free clinics, but i'll try getting in touch with another clinic.
I guess this is the beauty of being broke and having to go to free clinics, but i'll try getting in touch with another clinic.
I'll comment tomorrow when I get the chance. I'm hyper busy this week. Hang in there. For now, realize that our initial reaction is the strongest /worst. You'll be fine and life will totally be awesome. You'll have the virus for life, but you won't be contagious barring some atypical luck within a year to 18 months.
well I'm still not 100% sure if it's actually HPV. They didn't biopsy them at all or offer me any forms of treatment for it either -_- I am trying to get to see a dermatologist for it.
You'll most likely have to insist on a biopsy since they see warts so much they're not fazed nor concerned about them. Is prepare for warts as I'm pretty sure it is. Don't worry, though. It sucks at the beginning, but then it's all good. The entire rest of your life won't be too much impacted by this.
but how will my life be affected by it though? it's just that i didnt want to have a disease that i have to tell future partners about. But even then, so many sites tell me that most people clear the virus in 2 years or less and aren't contagious anymore after that and don't have to tell, while other sites about the virus tell me the complete opposite of that. It's confusing.
and about the whole biopsy thing, I did not want to go to the health department at first because i was worried they wouldn't do anything (which is exactly what they did). they just told me that I have genital warts and don't have to get them removed at all (like i seriously wanted to keep them?...) and then they gave me a bag full of condoms and then sent me out the door... it's ****** up.
This whole situation these past 2 weeks have been extremely stressful.
and about the whole biopsy thing, I did not want to go to the health department at first because i was worried they wouldn't do anything (which is exactly what they did). they just told me that I have genital warts and don't have to get them removed at all (like i seriously wanted to keep them?...) and then they gave me a bag full of condoms and then sent me out the door... it's ****** up.
This whole situation these past 2 weeks have been extremely stressful.
Also, if i get them biopsied, will it leave a scar?
Also, if i get them biopsied, will it leave a scar?
Yes, it is indeed extremely stressful. You are not alone. I'd think it strange if someone came here and posted about how unstressed they were about getting an STD for the first time. It sucks no two ways about it. However, that suckiness definitely dissipates so you have that to put on your calendar. I, too, didn't want a disease that I had to tell future partners about which is why I chose to not be sexually active until I'd gone way more than 6 months (damn near a year) without any new outbreaks. I hear you on how confusing it is so let me clear that up. Those who are in the know are correct when they say that the majority of cases outbreak for about a year and then show undetectable traces of HPV DNA after that. This means that anywhere from a year and a half to two years after your first outbreak, you'll most likely be in the non-detectable stage. Barring some immune suppressing event or extreme, extreme stress, or some other random thing (the virus still needs lots and lots of research so you cannot 100% predict its behavior), this will be your story. Who knows, maybe you'll only have one outbreak. It happens.
You can proceed however is best for you. The way I see it, you have two options. You can biopsy it and know for sure, go through the depression and grief stages and then come to terms and be cool with it as you wait to see if you have further outbreaks at which point you'll get them removed. Or, you can not biopsy, remove them, and live in a state of limbo wondering if was warts after all or not and if they'll come back and should you hook up with so and so or not and blah blah blah blah blah. Either way, if you have HPV, your future will unfold the same. Either you'll know or not know, and you'll either have the typical experience or some version of that most likely. Or, if you don't, you won't have any more outbreaks. To be honest, and I'm sorry for saying it, but I think you do have HPV. But, I must tell you as someone who has dealt with it for a long time, it's all good. If you have the time, go back and read some of my initial posts from 2010. You'll empathize big time and even think I was half crazy (which i was. I freaked!)
Oh, about scarring. I've only had one wart removed to biopsy and there is no scar. I've had 12-15 treatments at various dermatologists over the years, mainly liquid nitrogen, but twice electrocauterization, and I have no scarring whatsoever. I looks like it'll scar, but then it doesn't. Obviously, treat your dick right during the healing process just to be safe.
I'm sorry your health department experience was so lame. I'm not surprised. I've had the best experiences with dermatologists, except that, invariably it seems, they are always super hot and I've had to swallow my pride to show my wart **** to them. Thankfully you're gay so perhaps that'll soften any weirdness as i've never met a male dermatologist, hahahaha.
Anyways, best of luck to you. If you're tripping out, post here or peruse my old posts. You'll probably get a kick out of it. It's living history. Remember how common this is. I just heard on the radio that STDs for Chlamydia, gonorhea, and syphilis are at an all time high this year. That means HPV must be, too. These hook up apps are the perfect incubator for STDs/STIs. Millions and millions of people have them right now at this very moment and over the course of our sexually active lives, we're nearly guaranteed to get something. For better or for worse, it's a fact of life these days.
Cheers
You can proceed however is best for you. The way I see it, you have two options. You can biopsy it and know for sure, go through the depression and grief stages and then come to terms and be cool with it as you wait to see if you have further outbreaks at which point you'll get them removed. Or, you can not biopsy, remove them, and live in a state of limbo wondering if was warts after all or not and if they'll come back and should you hook up with so and so or not and blah blah blah blah blah. Either way, if you have HPV, your future will unfold the same. Either you'll know or not know, and you'll either have the typical experience or some version of that most likely. Or, if you don't, you won't have any more outbreaks. To be honest, and I'm sorry for saying it, but I think you do have HPV. But, I must tell you as someone who has dealt with it for a long time, it's all good. If you have the time, go back and read some of my initial posts from 2010. You'll empathize big time and even think I was half crazy (which i was. I freaked!)
Oh, about scarring. I've only had one wart removed to biopsy and there is no scar. I've had 12-15 treatments at various dermatologists over the years, mainly liquid nitrogen, but twice electrocauterization, and I have no scarring whatsoever. I looks like it'll scar, but then it doesn't. Obviously, treat your dick right during the healing process just to be safe.
I'm sorry your health department experience was so lame. I'm not surprised. I've had the best experiences with dermatologists, except that, invariably it seems, they are always super hot and I've had to swallow my pride to show my wart **** to them. Thankfully you're gay so perhaps that'll soften any weirdness as i've never met a male dermatologist, hahahaha.
Anyways, best of luck to you. If you're tripping out, post here or peruse my old posts. You'll probably get a kick out of it. It's living history. Remember how common this is. I just heard on the radio that STDs for Chlamydia, gonorhea, and syphilis are at an all time high this year. That means HPV must be, too. These hook up apps are the perfect incubator for STDs/STIs. Millions and millions of people have them right now at this very moment and over the course of our sexually active lives, we're nearly guaranteed to get something. For better or for worse, it's a fact of life these days.
Cheers
Actually I did look through your older posts on this site. i honestly kinda related to them too. It does upset me that this is happening, but I'm not going to think about it or worry about it too much. Once i get them removed or once they go away and after 6 or 12 months pass, i'll be fine.
I just think it's really messed up that i might have gotten it anyway even though I had the vaccine -_- i knew about this virus for a long time, but oh well. I'll be fine. By 2020 i should be done with it anyway.
I just think it's really messed up that i might have gotten it anyway even though I had the vaccine -_- i knew about this virus for a long time, but oh well. I'll be fine. By 2020 i should be done with it anyway.
Also, another thing it could be is Angiokeratomas, but the biopsy will answer that.
Hoy know, hoy may be right about Angiokeratomas. I giggled it and some of those pics give a little plausibility to them being that. All I can say is, you're right, you will be fine, and you're right, the biopsy will tell you. The first part is never fun, but you will be fine for sure.
ok. Could you please pray for me though?
And you me. Unfortunately, and this is very strange timing, but I just found a wart today on my shaft. It's been almost a year for me. :(
Of course I’ll pray for you :( and I’m really sorry :( <3 I feel your pain though <3 but stay strong <3
To skaterdave,
Is it possible that you’ve contracted multiple strains?
Facts about hpv is getting more confusing.. the more i research and read about it, confusing it gets... i havent heard from people who actually cleared the virus, but i read unfortunate events like this from time to time... are you one of the rare ones?
Is hpv really a lifelong infection? Or as cdc said, that more often than not, Men usually clears the virus faster than females as long as you have a healthy immune system, and as long as you don’t smoke...
Skater, you have no idea how much your development affects me... i am as devastated learning that you had a recurrence after for so long..
What did your doctor say? Do they agree that you’ll clear the virus eventually or do we all have to suffer from this our whole life?
Is it possible that you’ve contracted multiple strains?
Facts about hpv is getting more confusing.. the more i research and read about it, confusing it gets... i havent heard from people who actually cleared the virus, but i read unfortunate events like this from time to time... are you one of the rare ones?
Is hpv really a lifelong infection? Or as cdc said, that more often than not, Men usually clears the virus faster than females as long as you have a healthy immune system, and as long as you don’t smoke...
Skater, you have no idea how much your development affects me... i am as devastated learning that you had a recurrence after for so long..
What did your doctor say? Do they agree that you’ll clear the virus eventually or do we all have to suffer from this our whole life?
I was wondering the same. My fruend got warts about 10 years ago from her cheating husband. She had a second outbreak and that was it. Clear for years.
I should add she is severely overweight and unhealthy too. Im thinking there must be an immune reason as to why most clear it in 2-3 years and others dont.
I should add she is severely overweight and unhealthy too. Im thinking there must be an immune reason as to why most clear it in 2-3 years and others dont.
What was the interval between the first outbreak and the 2nd one? After the 2nd episode? No more?
I dont know the interval, i believe it was within a year or two..but after the 2nd outbreak she had nothing. To be honest im very skeptical she had warts since she apparently didnt have sex for 4-5 years with her husband at the time. But i cant say for sure maybe they fooled around the odd time in between.
Thanks for your concern. I'm definitely feeling pretty deflated. Fortunately, I'm married now and my wife has it, too, so I'm not getting brow beat or anything. Still, after I got warts in 2010,my research lead me to think that by the end of 2012 I'd be good to go... and I was (my initial experience was textbook, exactly one year of outbreaks) until I got them again in 2013. I say, got them again, because I think I was reinfected by my future wife with a different strain. Ever since then, I've been having outbreaks. Mostly that first year again, but now randomly like this one.
JoeWhite, I agree, the more I research and experience, the more confused I get. I don't smoke, eat super healthy, excersise, and try to meditate, yet I'm never free from warts it seems. All I ever wanted was to join the human race, but this is a very unfortunate development in my life (don't need to share all that). From what I can tell, I think that there must be to much/many variability/scenarios with this virus. You've got two types supposedly responsible for like 90% of all warts, but then you've got this 10%of all the other strains. In addition, you've got millions of varying lifestyles and immune systems as well as folks getting reinfected with another strain and not realizing that. The end result is all sorts of real life experiences that differ from the published norm.
My own story is one of health yet I have pretty severe anxiety disorder. I wonder if my outbreaks are somehow related to periodic near total melt downs. Also, I decided to shave my shaft Wednesday which I haven't done in over a year. Next day wart. Did I irritate the skin and trigger an outbreak (I kind of think I must have, but how can I know?)? Was it there under the hair? I thought I looked. That's what's so confusing. This virus truly is confusing.
JoeWhite, I agree, the more I research and experience, the more confused I get. I don't smoke, eat super healthy, excersise, and try to meditate, yet I'm never free from warts it seems. All I ever wanted was to join the human race, but this is a very unfortunate development in my life (don't need to share all that). From what I can tell, I think that there must be to much/many variability/scenarios with this virus. You've got two types supposedly responsible for like 90% of all warts, but then you've got this 10%of all the other strains. In addition, you've got millions of varying lifestyles and immune systems as well as folks getting reinfected with another strain and not realizing that. The end result is all sorts of real life experiences that differ from the published norm.
My own story is one of health yet I have pretty severe anxiety disorder. I wonder if my outbreaks are somehow related to periodic near total melt downs. Also, I decided to shave my shaft Wednesday which I haven't done in over a year. Next day wart. Did I irritate the skin and trigger an outbreak (I kind of think I must have, but how can I know?)? Was it there under the hair? I thought I looked. That's what's so confusing. This virus truly is confusing.
Hmm... is it possible that you and your wife are ping ponging the virus back and forth?
Is it possible that the wart was there under the hair before and showed up after shaving? Shaving does irritate the skin, specially if you’re not doing it regularly...
My history is this, i had my first GW episode when i was 19, and had it removed via electro cautery, and had another episode when i was 23, but i strongly believe that this is a reinfection, cos location wise and the appearance of the warts are different, i decided to be vaccinated by this time... then i had 1 wart when im 29, and i believe this is a left over wart from the 2nd episode, had it removed and no problem till lsst month, im 35 now, i believe this is another case of reinfection, due to the location and my recent activities...
If im going to analyze my case... i think i have a case of (infection, clearance, reinfection) cycle...
Reading from Dr Cook and Dr Handsfield past statements... recurrence usually happens on the same spot where the warts were before...
If warts appear on a different area, it could be a sign of late manifestation or reinfection of the virus...
Being infected with the virus makes us more susceptible to it or easily catch it, it seems...
Reactivation or non clearance of the virus is still possible for some minority, hence the regular paps screening for the ladies...
Reading contradicting articles after articles... i decided to stick to the research and statement of both CDC and WHO, that our immune system will eventually get rid of it...
Other articles to me now is irrelevant... better stick to the RIGHT authority regarding this...
Well, as for me, i had the “wart” removed, still kinda sceptical if its actually a wart though... my derm probably assumed it is, since she knew about my past condition... she decided to declare it as a wart as soon as she saw it without thoroughly checking...
Have you considered getting vaccinated? “Some” study stated that it can actually help protect against reinfection and reactivation... anyway, good luck to all of us... reading through the community section, it seems that you’re the longest one who sticked with the forum, i assume the former posters have resolved their issues already, hence the absence...
Final say to this is, unless you are reinfected, havent cleared the original outbreak or have immune system problem... recurrence after long period of time is highly unlikely (taking it from dr cook and dr hhh)
Is it possible that the wart was there under the hair before and showed up after shaving? Shaving does irritate the skin, specially if you’re not doing it regularly...
My history is this, i had my first GW episode when i was 19, and had it removed via electro cautery, and had another episode when i was 23, but i strongly believe that this is a reinfection, cos location wise and the appearance of the warts are different, i decided to be vaccinated by this time... then i had 1 wart when im 29, and i believe this is a left over wart from the 2nd episode, had it removed and no problem till lsst month, im 35 now, i believe this is another case of reinfection, due to the location and my recent activities...
If im going to analyze my case... i think i have a case of (infection, clearance, reinfection) cycle...
Reading from Dr Cook and Dr Handsfield past statements... recurrence usually happens on the same spot where the warts were before...
If warts appear on a different area, it could be a sign of late manifestation or reinfection of the virus...
Being infected with the virus makes us more susceptible to it or easily catch it, it seems...
Reactivation or non clearance of the virus is still possible for some minority, hence the regular paps screening for the ladies...
Reading contradicting articles after articles... i decided to stick to the research and statement of both CDC and WHO, that our immune system will eventually get rid of it...
Other articles to me now is irrelevant... better stick to the RIGHT authority regarding this...
Well, as for me, i had the “wart” removed, still kinda sceptical if its actually a wart though... my derm probably assumed it is, since she knew about my past condition... she decided to declare it as a wart as soon as she saw it without thoroughly checking...
Have you considered getting vaccinated? “Some” study stated that it can actually help protect against reinfection and reactivation... anyway, good luck to all of us... reading through the community section, it seems that you’re the longest one who sticked with the forum, i assume the former posters have resolved their issues already, hence the absence...
Final say to this is, unless you are reinfected, havent cleared the original outbreak or have immune system problem... recurrence after long period of time is highly unlikely (taking it from dr cook and dr hhh)
Well, I'd say ping ponging it back and forth isn't such risk as, and I'm saying this soley for the sake of the discussion, we're not really having sex this past year. What is interesting is that 3 or maybe 4 years ago, I started getting warts on my hand, too. In addition to just discovering the wart on my shaft, I also have a brand new wart on the palm of my hand. I know what you're thinking, and I can't rule that out. The two wart locations are spots that would be in contact when I masturbate. But these types of warts aren't really interchangeable so far as I've read. My appointment isn't until the 11th, but I'm going to push to biopsy both warts and see what they say. It is possible the wart was under the hair before I shaved. I haven't paid much attention to it since it's been over a year since my last wart.
Your story is interesting, too, Joe. You're saying you had only one outbreak, got it removed, and then went years before another one? That's not what I thought happened with HPV. I've not considered getting vaccinated as they always say they don't recommend it to folks my age especially with how many partners I've had. More than likely, I have the strains the vaccine protects against. Still, if my insurance will cover it, perhaps I just should...
Referring back to your prognosis of your own likely series of events, I, too, think I've been infected twice. The million dollar question for me is, does my severe anxiety play a roll in journey with HPV outbreaks? I'm pretty far out there on the anxiety spectrum, so I'm wondering if somehow that's affecting my immune systems ability to suppress reactivation. At the end of the day, these are just curious questions I'd like to know, but the end result remains the same. Go get it removed and start the waiting game again. Best of luck to you, Joe. If people keep posting, I'll answer. I'll probably update my story once the biopsy comes back so if you don't log in for a while, check back towards October. Peace to you, Bro.
Your story is interesting, too, Joe. You're saying you had only one outbreak, got it removed, and then went years before another one? That's not what I thought happened with HPV. I've not considered getting vaccinated as they always say they don't recommend it to folks my age especially with how many partners I've had. More than likely, I have the strains the vaccine protects against. Still, if my insurance will cover it, perhaps I just should...
Referring back to your prognosis of your own likely series of events, I, too, think I've been infected twice. The million dollar question for me is, does my severe anxiety play a roll in journey with HPV outbreaks? I'm pretty far out there on the anxiety spectrum, so I'm wondering if somehow that's affecting my immune systems ability to suppress reactivation. At the end of the day, these are just curious questions I'd like to know, but the end result remains the same. Go get it removed and start the waiting game again. Best of luck to you, Joe. If people keep posting, I'll answer. I'll probably update my story once the biopsy comes back so if you don't log in for a while, check back towards October. Peace to you, Bro.
So, how did the biopsy go bro?
Oh, it's not until the 11th. Then I have to wait for the results.
i haven't gotten mine biopsied yet either. i'm really hoping that they aren't warts honestly. i tried reading more about the virus but all the information about it is very confusing. I really didn't want to tell my doctor about this either because she's really judgmental. and plus i don't have health insurance either (i'm on this health program because i don't have insurance). so i'm not even sure if i'll even be able to get them biopsied but i really hope so.
part of me wishes i could just ignore it and forget about it.
part of me wishes i could just ignore it and forget about it.
Yeah. Hard to say. I'm definitely no expert so don't know exactly what to say. Sorry.
I was really just asking if they look like warts or what else could they be
You have to get them biopsied to know for sure. It's the only way.
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i dont think i have the money to have that done. i put some duct tape on the area earlier. im hoping that helps clear it up. Im starting to doubt wether they're warts because I did get the gardisil vaccine a long time ago.
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