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923105 tn?1341827649

Let's do our best for the Forum

Hi everyone,

As you probably know I don’t ‘do’ polls, but I was wondering what everyone’s reaction to the ‘The Best Answer’?? Was.

I mean, I posted a thread about my Father dying, and Medhelp sent me an email asking who I thought the ‘Best Answer’ was - not very fair, IMO

I didn’t choose anyone, because I personally thought that they were all very good answers.

Many of you have such good knowledge about MS and other medical health issues, that I don’t think it is fair for them to ask us to select a ‘Best Answer’

I may well be wrong, in my opinion, but it would be interesting to know what my Forum friends thought about this new ‘update’ was???

Also the stars:/  Well now if it just down to replying to postings, saying anything you want just to gain  the ‘stars’ do you think that is fair??  I don’t – I mean we could say anything, without any real knowledge and hey ho, we have more stars against our name!  

This appears (from what have I learnt) is the reason for the stars:/

So, from what I have discovered  over the weekend it doesn’t matter what you say, as long as you reply, then you gain stars – duh:/

I hope I have not started up a Hornets nest, but it would be interesting to know what we all think – and I promise I will not put a ‘Best Answer’)))

So, if Medhelp - you get to read this – let’s hope we have plenty of IMO))

Maybe they should be looking at a spell check instead;)))

Hope your all having a good one,

Hugs and love,(and I hope that I have not offended anyone - if I have, then I will say sorry in advance ok?)

Debs xxxxxx
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1740498 tn?1328962585
Oh how funny. I'm new here and thought maybe I was being rude by NOT choosing a best answer!

There are so many good answers, how would you choose?
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1382889 tn?1505071193
Old thread but worth a repeat.  

Personally I never saw any of the "best answers" I got as my best answers by a long shot. Often times it just who connects with the orginal poster.

None of it means anything anyway so I pretty much ignore the whole process whether it's me being asked to rate someone or someone selecting my answer.

Julie
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1394601 tn?1328032308
Than you.  I personally see it as a popularity contest.  
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923105 tn?1341827649
Bumping it up for summan.
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572651 tn?1530999357
Gypcwmn, we like to think everyone here has earned some stars just surviving the indoctrination to this MiSerable disease.  

thanks for the kind words.  

be well, Lulu
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I don`t care about the stars. It took me quite awhile to figure out what they meant. I was here Monday and noticed i had a star, I do not know why. I have had immense help from everyone here, I do not believe i have added anything to this forum with my post. But I love reading all the great advice and the closeness of everyone here.
    
      Lulu: So sorry for your loss.
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572651 tn?1530999357
Was someone wondering about the "best answer" emails they have received?  Participating in this feature is totally optional - you can not respond to those and it doesn't affect your participation here one bit.  You can also take yourself out of the "expert" categories and receive no questions that need to be answered.

I have done both of those - we have too many questions here that need attention to wander off into other forums to help out.  :-)

One concern the cl's  have voiced about selecting a "best answer" is it bumps that response up and is immediately after  the question.  As most of you know, our conversations here often  build upon the previous answers and moving them out of sequence takes the meaning out of the message.  

Some questions just don't have a BEST answer - like our weekly "what's up" post, but they still send me an email requesting that I select the best answer. They are working on fine tuning all of these features so if you have suggestions please let them know.


that's my two cents tonight!
Lulu
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1140169 tn?1370185076
bump for Carole and other new members.

Mike
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370181 tn?1595629445
Thank you, shoshin, for making ONE of my points about this idiotic "rating" system stand out like a sore thumb!
Do NOT be "embarrassed" by your competitive nature.............which in my mind is part of who we are, as I truly believe it's "human nature" to be competitive.  
That you felt "disappointed" that you had only gotten 3 stars is EXACTLY what MH can't seem to get through their ***** coporate heads..........and it's EXACTLY the point I was trying to make..................that people ARE going to feel hurt when they give, and keep on giving, but others, for reasons none of us can fanthom, gather more stars than they deserve, in the opinion of many of us. The entire program is based on competition, but MH will dispute that to the bitter end.  
And the "Best Answer" app.........what an absolute crock! There is one poster here who apparently has no life except to respond to posts on at least 10 forums, at last count! And I'm sure she'll be adding her "expertise" to numerous others when she gets the chance. At last count, she had gained 15 "Best Answer" check marks! What CRAP! She is all over the board, and just now I see that she has aquired a "Best Answer" from................get this............DENTISTRY!
Be proud of your three stars because you earned them the hard way AND the right way...........by giving of yourself to an area in which you know and care about and would rather give the best answer you're capable of then just writing hack to gain stars or check marks!
I think Lulu has the "Best Answer" of all...................screw the stars and the check marks and let's just get back to the REAL reason we're here, which is to help each other as BEST we can!
It's obvious we can't fight City Hall, (MH) so let's just not play their game.
Take those three stars, multiply them by a thousand and THAT'S what I believe your worth!
Peace
Greenlydia
CL/Anxiety Forum
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333672 tn?1273792789
I'm somewhat embarrassed to admit that the competitive side of me was disappointed to find out that I only got three stars. I got over that pretty quick--I have a lot of other more worthwhile things to stress about--but it does seem to me that this "feature" has more potential to do harm than benefit.

sho
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572651 tn?1530999357
Hi kenkeith, I think we would probably benefit by having this discussion over on the cl's forum -  it is more pertinent to the ears of the folks there.    I'll look for you there.  - L
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367994 tn?1304953593
I agree with last post by Greenlydia and others regarding stars and best answer categories, and it is not coming from bitterness as I have been doing very well from the beginning 3 years ago and 3 years with another heart forum. And I believe the position of all other CL's...the thank you from an OP is reward enough.
Prior to being selected as CL for HD, there never was an issue regarding my work production.  Now, there is a member who started a few months earlier and has been reported to mods and his posts have been deleted  that leads to a more serious interuptions. Other than being a very rude person, a know it all and argumentative, etc. stated in a (pm) to me and another member (new) to watch for (another member) who will stab you in the back and that he was thinking about quiting because the forum is too political...suggests to me he is a former disgruntled member who has changed his user name! He had been a member for a month or so.
I get along well with other members (10 years, 6 health and 4 computer help forum), but now as CL I had a seldom forum participant who directed a post to me stating (s)he could do as well if he could use his 100 links, and accused me of linking to information for my responses.  Then this disruptive individual from the UK as well posted a sole link and stated that he is giving the link because he wanted to be legal and didn't want to take credit for someone else's work, etc. I responded and the mods got involved.  The mods referenced copyright information and how it should be recognized.  I agreed, and after a few other posts it occurred to me they we were not making a distinction wth protected information and public domain information.  I made the distinction and stated most of my responses were public domain information, and if information is protected I would have followed the proper procedure...response from mod was positive. I would think the moderator would know the difference of protected and unprotected information and not make the issue public. Who mods the mods? Why wasn't there an example presented? I may have made a mistake as I have thousands of responses, but no example forthcoming.

We donate our time, and it serves no one's best interest to rank by stars and a percentage of best answer.  But by establishing stars as an approval and recognization of work (no other reason can be drawn) leads to "ankle biting" at least that has been my experience. Thanks.
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370181 tn?1595629445
LOL!
Indeed................TWO of the best forums! Now let's sit back and wait for all the other CLs to chime in that THEIR forum is pretty dang good, too!

I agree with the concensus that we simply ignore the flags and balloons and stars and check marks and just continue to do what we all do best............try to help others as BEST we can.

Before I go, I just want to share an experience I had yesterday on the forum. I had a personal reason to write to another forum and received two incredibly wonderful and helpful replies. They were both very different in how they were written. One was full of excellent technical information that helped me to interpret some medical reports. It was written so the layman could understand it and it helped me a great deal. The second post was more "personal" and gave me a lot of encouragement and understanding about the fear I was going through. This post was also excellent. Then I got the email asking me to chose the "Best Answer." I won't repeat here what I had to say about that request, but the bottom line was that I didn't chose either one. How could I? They were BOTH great answers. Two people had taken time out of their day to respond to someone who needed help and even if their answers had not been all that helpful, my deep appreciation for them reaching out to me was the BEST of all. If I had been asked "Was the information you received helpful?" I would have been able to answer with a resounding "YES!"
I remain astounded that MH can't see, or doesn't care, that the "Best Answer" feature only makes people feel like "winners or losers." My opinion remains that it's one of the very worst ideas I've ever seen. It may work on "YouTube," but that site is not dealing with sick, terrified and fragile people.
OK, there was my very last soap box stand. (Which, by the way, is probably not true!) LOL
Take care Lulu!
Greenlydia    
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572651 tn?1530999357
Hi Greenlydia,

It is always nice to see another CL pop through and share thoughts.  So I'll give you one - this is one of the best two forums here at MH, ok?  LOL

This thread was started by one of our members and not the co-cl's.  The concensus here seems to be to ignore it all and keep on keeping on.  

enjoy the day, what's left of it.
Lulu

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I'm a new poster, but I've been lurking a while.  I found the stars and so on to be clownish and distracting -- a net negative.  But the information is very useful, and that is the core of the forum.  So I registered, anyway.  At the very least, I hope MedHelp will allow us to Opt Out of these features.

MedHelp, thank you for providing the forum, and I hope you find our feedback valuable.
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370181 tn?1595629445
Absolutely loved that you opened up this discussion on your forum! What a great idea. Actually, I DID consider doing basically the same thing on the Anxiety Forum, but I just wasn't sure it would work as well as it did here.

I would like to have a friendly disagreement about who has the "best community" on MH, but isn't this whole "BEST" crap what we're railing against? You have, without a single doubt, a great forum and I believe the same about mine. We can't compare apples and oranges and instead should just be EXTREMELY proud of both our forums and our wonderful, caring, compassionate members who don't give a rats rear about how many stupid stars they have, but only in giving the "best" of themselves to help others.      

I agreed with everyone here who wrote in with their opinions on the new apps. There was one poster that I had a VERY slight issue with and it's something that I mentioned in my original post on the CL Forum. I will just cut and paste the line I'm referring to as I don't want, or mean, to single this person out or make them feel bad. The rest of her post was excellent.



She wrote:

"Best answer is also all but useless the way it is used.  The only benefit I could see would be on a topic that has an unusually long number of responses.  Those sometimes get off tract besides.  Having the ability to pull one (or more) answers to the top could help people in the future to find answers without having to wade through the fluff.  Having an option to mark if an answer is helpful might be more useful..........."

This poster made an excellent point when she said that long threads can, and often do, get off track at times. But for those that DON'T get off track, in all those posts there is a wealth of information, advice, empathy and compassion, suggestions, encouragement and support. When she says that "pulling one or more answers to the top could help people in the future find answers without having to wade through the fluff." If I misunderstood this statement, if by "fluff" she meant pull the off topic posts so people don't have to wade through those, I would agree with her 100%. But as so many people are saying, and what is MY biggest complaint with this "Best Answer" BS is that not only is EVERY single post worth reading, it may take 3 or 4 or 8 posts for the OP to obtain the answer or the reassurance they are looking for. Her suggestion to have the ability for the OP to respond if a "chosen" answer was helpful is not a bad idea, in and of itself, but I fear that it once again brings in the aspect of competition and hurt feelings. Perhaps like on some other sites, we could ask the OP if ALL the information was helpful............just make it a general question rather than name any ONE post as the "BEST" and risk the rest being ignored.

I truly hope I have not offended anyone by coming onto your forum and being unable to keep my two cents to myself. I was here looking for an answer for one of  my Anxiety people and saw this post and just couldn't help myself.
If I have, I am deeply sorry and offer my heartfelt apology.

I do hope MH reads this, but I'm afraid I doubt it will do any good. I hate to be so pessimistic, but I think our opinions are pretty far down on the food chain.

I will slink back to my forum now and build a fort to hide behind! LOL
Before I go, I would like to wish all the moms on this forum a very Happy Mother's Day!
Warmly
Greenlydia/CL Anxiety Forum

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572651 tn?1530999357
Hello Everyone,

Earlier this week I saw this post but didn't have the energy or time to respond since I was in the midst of funeral activities for my mother-in-law.

I just spent quite a bit of time reading your responses and am not surprised by your reactions to stars, best answers, and questions needing to be answered.  

We co-cl's here already know that we have the best community at MedHelp - you are all wise and compassionate, and extraordinarily well versed in MS and its various manifestations.

To single anyone of us out at more significant than the next is counter-productive to the open atmosphere we have here. I personally feel great heartburn each time I see my name at the top of the top answerers list.  Yes,  probably I write more responses than anyone else around here; I have great access to computers through out the day and am able to pop on and off of the forum and give quick replies and welcomes to our new folks.  As your "social director" here, that is what I do best.  

When it comes to quality and content, Dr. Q trumps everyone.  I do wish there was a way to put her at the top because this is a community that she has built with her love, sweat and typos!  LOL   Yes, we do need a spell checker, but I have long ago given up worrying about the errors and figure you all know what I mean, anyway!

I will let the moderators at MedHelp know of this thread, give them the url, and invite them to read your comments.  It may surprise them to know that this group has already figured the new system is pointless for our community, and that you ignore the stars, ratings and best answer queries.  

Thanks for all of your inputs - I believe this is an evolving system for MH  and perhaps it is early enough in the process that they will rethink the idea.  

be well,
Lulu



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152264 tn?1280354657
Also, it it just my computer, or has this forum slowed down a lot recently? It takes forever to load pages.
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152264 tn?1280354657
I am very unhappy about the stars. I don't think it's a coincidence that shortly after they showed up, I got a "friend" invitation from someone (not a person on this forum) that made me very uneasy.

I don't like having attention called to my name in any way. I just want to read, answer, and ask questions without being singled out as a "top answerer," which--regardless of Medhelp's explanations of what that means, which may or may not get read--will inevitably and unjustifiably make some people think the starred folks have a special expertise or status, and may draw unwanted attention to them as well.

Despite the disclaimers, the chosen wording of "Top Answerer" could well lead to an expectation by new or less-experienced forum users (or the desperate, demanding, maybe even malicious types) that these starred people SHOULD answer their post.

I wrote to Medhelp a few days ago and asked to opt out of the stars. I got no reply.

Those stupid stars have the effect of making me wish to NOT post and participate here. They just make me nervous. (And I wish I'd never used my real first name.)

Social media are great, but when the owners start classifying people and drawing attention to them without letting them opt out, it really gives you pause about using such forums. I'm sure the owners don't care if a few disaffected people leave, but it's hard to leave behind a community you've come to know to some extent.
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620048 tn?1358018235
Thats what i don't like...i just lost my whole post and it was too long to repeat..any stars for lost posts?

I agree with everyone and its already been said..its not really important to us.  Maybe someone knows, but I don't think this is pointed towards our forum.. There are so many forums on here that are not at all as active as ours.  I have tried some and never stay. Sometimes people ask questions and noone answers.  What good is that?

btw, i didnt know about the ice cream..

keep coming back, love all of you....meg

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704043 tn?1298056844
gosh-  thought this was  2   - learn  and have  someone 2  talk 2!!!
  they have made a game of it???


i ought of here  its  disgusting!!    love ya all     tick
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294425 tn?1288528395
Whew - I feel the same way as most of you guys, and I'm so glad I'm not the only one!  

When I first noticed the "star" thing, it took me a bit to figure out what it was.  (I am here in a very hit and miss way, depending on how I'm feeling, so I often don't catch things when they first happen.)  I don't pay any attention to it ... as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't make anyone's post more valid or more helpful.  

That's what has ALWAYS been so great about this group - each and every response and post is helpful in one way or another.  I always enjoy seeing so many different ideas and suggestions, and the posts and questions from new people here, or people who don't post very often, are no less important. I find that I always learn from the other people here, whether they post alot or not.  The wonderful thing is, this is such a great group that I don't think it will make everyone more competitive and it won't cause any divisions.  Seems like most of us just ignore them ....

As far as the "best answer" thing - I was totally shocked the first time I got that little email!  I just ignored that as well, but I found it more irritating, lol.  If I post a question, I consider each and every response to be helpful, and I am just so grateful that other people took the time to comment or give me suggestions or offer me support.  

I have been a member of this forum for a long time ... since before I even got diagnosed ... and that has always been one of the best things here - this group is like a family in many respects, and each person is a valuable member.  And like alot of you, I would hate to see anyone here become reluctant to post, because they may in any way feel their answer wouldn't be good enough or valuable enough, you know?  To me, each person, and their unique thoughts and opinions, are important - and I always feel so blessed to be part of such a wonderful group.

And seriously ..... when ARE they going to get a spell check here??? LOL!  It would help so many of us in such a big way ...

Grateful for ALL of you,
Rita
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382218 tn?1341181487
I don't feel strongly one way or the other.   I'm not impressed nor offended.  

I like Bio's comparison to Girl Guide badges.  I was thinking along the same lines, those behaviour mod charts used to reward kiddies for 'good' behaviour and in doing so, IMO, instilling an addictive pursuit of praise rather than teaching the idea of being good just for the sake of being good and not for the attainment of reward.  But I digress.....  

So maybe somewhat patronizing, but as others have stated, we are mature adults and it's unlikely this will create a disruption to the group.
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378497 tn?1232143585
I think the stars are silly...what is this, Girl Scouts with badges? But they don't bother me much. The "choose the best answer" thing, on the other hand? Not cool. I ignored it when they asked me.

Bio
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