Concered and Fed Up

[lifesconcerns]

So I had my appointment with my gyn this morning and left frustrated once again!  A yr ago I had surgery for cyst removal for the second time.  He left one small 2cm dermoid and so I wanted him to make me an appoint for a t.v.u.s as its been a year since the cyst has been monitored ( pretty reasonble request I think).  But this guys is so concerned about fertility it's driving me nuts.  We have 2 children and have been hoping for a third for some time now but as I told him even prior to the last surgery I am content if I am unable to have the third.  He did not want to send me for the ultrasound which caused a little bit of a tiff between him and I. He asked why am I so concerned?  WHY? I felt like asking him if he would be concered if he had a growth on his testicles! WHY?  Hmm well could it because I've had two surgery's now one a laparotomy while 4mths preg due sudden rapid growth which at the time they suspected were cancerous and then I had a laparoscope to remove a cyst just 3yrs later.  He chose to leave one cyst behind as he felt it would risk my fertility.     Should I become pregnant I don't want a repeat of sudden growth resulting in surgery again. I understand the one he left was small but who's to say it still is.  The ones I had before started out small too then grew to 8cm another 11cm.    So he says well so what if it ends up it has grown then what?  WHAT? Well then we take it from there.  He tells me if he ends up having to do surgery to remove this cyst I will likely ruin my chances of getting pregnant....well so then I deal with that..I mean yes I would like a third child but if it doesn't happen it doesn't happen, how many times do I have to say this to him.       Do I think it's grown I'm not sure, do i wnat it to have..absolutely not  but I would like to know what is going on in my body.             After pretty much telling him if he wasn't going to get me an ultrasound I would find someone who would, he has agreed now.  He also is going to x-ray my fallopian tubes to see whether they are in working order.      Which leads me to a question.   So I had the cyst removed on my right ovary but he said because there is so much scar tissue I likely would not get pregnant with it but he said that's why he left the cyst on the left but he also said he believes the fallopian tube on the Left side was so damaged that he felt it wasn't any good. So why if the left falopian tube is no good would he be so concerned about not messing with the left ovary...I don't understand how I would be able to get pregnant with either side from what he said today.               Anyway I just needed to rant a bit... so thankyou for listening and for any responses.

[sue14]

It's so frustrating sometimes isn't it?  Drs may have been medically trained, but their 'listening skills' often need a 'refresher course'!!  You must have been found this so upsetting - and worrying.  Hope you get a scan soon.  Thinking of you ................

[Sandymac]

Not a problem on the OT.. no apologies needed.. we started out talking about cysts ... so don't worry about it.. It's not THAT strict .LOL ... Let us know though how things are progressing for you.

Take care,
Sandy

[lifesconcerns]

OT- Thanks for clearing that up for me. Well I did a home preg. test and it said neg. but am waiting for my Fam.Dr to call me back to see whether  I should go do a blood test.    Either that or I'll find out for sure whenever I get that appointment for the ultrasound to check the cyst.  Back to finding out other possible reasons for a blue cervix I guess until then.          Thanks again and I apoligize to you and everyone else for getting OT on this forum.

[Sandymac]

Oh sorry.. "OT" means "off topic" since I was posting mostly about pregnancy on this forum..just to let others know it's not about cysts..

The "period" thing is probably not a true "period", but so many of us (back when) had what we thought was a "period" then we came to find out we were further along than we thought..It's lighter in nature and doesn't last as long but otherwise acts just like a "period" I can sympathize with you since my cycles were "out of whack" and the " rhythm method wouldn't have worked for me ..(that's what we used to call the "ovulation tracker".. they probably don't refer to it as such today..

Keep in touch.. let us know what the test has to say ! and Good luck,

Sandy

[lifesconcerns]

Well I didn't know about the cerivx turning blue thing either till the Dr. mentioned it.  Have looked it up on the net though and pregnancy is the only reason I can find. Nothing tells me exactly how soon though...just that it is one of the first signs.         I have to say I for some reason do not know what your refering to when you say OT??? lol.      My last period for the most part seemed "normal"  but the period before the last one was in Dec.   I did do a pregnancy test back in Feb after not having a period for 2mths but it was neg.    I think I will go get one today...I'm not sure if it would be to soon for it though as most test say up to 5days before menstruating and mine is always out of wack!       And if not then I guess I have to search for other possible reasons as to why my cervix would be blue.                    Thanks again Sandy for your comments.

[Sandymac]

I have to tell you (I'm an old timer) that I would have no idea on the time frame from conception to the cervix turning blue.. I don't think we even knew about that back in the "old days".. Learn something new everyday for sure..!! Did you take a pregnancy test?.. And (even thought I know this is OT.).. I had a slight period after conceiving my third child, so having a period really isn't always the "gold standard" for not being pregnant. Was it a regular period or "slight"? ... sorry if I missed that in your post. I'd take the pg test if I were you.. Let us know.. Sandy

[lifesconcerns]

Thank-you both for your replies!   He is an Ob/Gyn, and your theory on harvesting the eggs makes sense never thought of that, I guess because we would likely not do the IVF.  What's most frustrating is that I did tell him prior to the surgery last year that I really would rather him take the other cyst.  As I have told him I already have 2 beautiful boys.  Prior to the surgery I tried and failed at finding a new Dr. that would take me under there care or at very least offer me a second opinion with statements like "they don't want to step on the Dr's toes".   This Dr had initially told me to come back 6mths after surgery and we would do an ultrasound he then said no and to come back at the year mark.  I was really hoping I wouldn't have to deal with that today.            Another comment about my appoint today that I made on a different forum is that while examining me he said my cervix was blue (apparently common if pregnant) but once I told him I last menstruated March 8 he made no further comments on that.  I know this is not the forum for it but do any of you happen to know how soon after conception it does turn blue..now thinking about it I would have thought he would have given me a blood test.                                          Anyways thanks again for your comments, truly appreciated.

[Sandymac]

Brother ! I think I'd be ranting as well.. I'll make my response kind of quick .. I think I'd get another opinion, if for no other reason than for peace of mind.. Lay your cards on the line to begin with about the childbearing issue and go from there..At this point you need a physician that is interested in your welfare first and foremost.. Good luck and keep us posted,

Sandy

[MarieMichele]

Is he a gyn or an ob/gyn?  The ob/gyn's tend to focus a lot more on pregnancy issues than on gyn issues.  Maybe he had trouble with previous patient(s) for needlessly making them infertile via excessive surgery and that has made him over-cautious esp. since you expressed interest in the past in having another child.

I'm guessing he left you with a good ovary (and possibly bad tube on the same side) so that the ovary would (1) still provide hormones and (2) still be viable to harvest eggs from it for a future IVF.

I think your frustration is making him see that you are changing your point of view and that you want more action regarding the cyst.  If he were an gynecologist/oncologist, he would have a more aggressive attitude towards the cyst.  

Maybe you made some progress with him today in making your wishes known.  If not, you might need to find another gyn doctor...one that goes after cysts and does not deliver babies.  I understand your frustration.  I dropped a doctor of internal medicine not long ago because I felt that person was not listening to me.