Eureka (I think)....? Please try this, I think it killed off my PATM

[LookingForPATMfix]

You can I see I have been on this forum since 2011 bought high powered microscope as well as hand held, and the closest I got was my last post 2.5 years ago. With my handheld microscope I saw the microfibers coming from the roots of my hair and the easy way to prove this was with a lint roll. I can roll it on my head and after like 8 rolls, it may have 1 million tiny fibers, many full, as if I had ran it on carpet. Its so illusive as it seems like fibers from close etc. Its not these are filaments and they are hollow and you can even see some type of virus inside, which seemed to be a symbiotic relationship as the fibers can move fast as they are magnetically charged and the reactions far away are these micro fibers releasing from your body when there is a possible host with and somehow the particles release and as crazy as it sounds the particle reaches its destination and tries to set up shot. None of this matters at all. I saw the fibers on family members and it was even more devastating to see that until something answered how to get rid of this. If you read my posts of 10 years I have tried everything and its true that water glass with a few drops of H2O2 do stop some of the reactions, but the fibers are still there and reproduce. So one of the family members started to spend lots of time at the beach and under the sun and I discovered that person did not have any more fibers or the acne that may come with it. I experimented with lights a lot, but I have probably not been in the sun for 20 years, as one did when young to get a tan. Then I saw this that with the sun this family member seemed to rid themselves of the fibers, the don't even know about, since I tried to explain long ago, but it was futile and I just kept it private, but I can see, also when you have rays of sun shinning and you move your hair you can see the fibers, which are a component of PATM. I said the SUN???? So for the last few days I started to sit there no sun screen and I cut my own hair with a machine as close as ever like 1/2 inch. I have been going out to the Sun and sat there a good 30 minutes turning like a rotisserie and  also letting the Sun hot my privates, and stood there until I felt that SUN just like a blowtorch. I cant believe it, but I think the fibers are gone and my first test of going out to a large group was today and did not get anything. I am not going to claim victory just yet, but my lint roller, which is the easiest way to know if you have PATM/Morgellons and I know I had it, but after about 4 straight days, going out like 30 minutes 2 times per day, I really wanted to incinerate those things, I think it worked. It was there right in front of us and yes I am a hermit. Had not been in the sun in many years, that way. I dont want to claim victory, but to the desperate as I had been to deal with this, unable to explain it to family, knowing you dont want to go out has been an incredible burden. I urge anyone to try this. If you are a man, cur your hair super short, and then go sit in the sun since if its long the sun wont hit your scalp and roots. They live and the cycle goes on for ever but I think the Sun is burning them and today when I lint rolled there was nothing. It has never been that way. I could lint roll all fibers like 5 sheets of the roller and in 12 hours its infested and full again, yet now after these sun baking sessions I don't see them and there was a correlation today, no reactions. Anyone please try this and post. If you are a woman with long hair, find ways for you to move your hair around and let the sun hit all your roots. You can start slow, 15 minutes, rotating so you get sun all over, privates also and nose hair and eye brows are a favorite place. I placed my head in a way the sun can hit my nostrils, so the ones there get killed also, I angled so the sun was direct and pushed open my nostrils to get the sun in there. All areas of head, so you need to turn every few minutes. Privates also, lives there also. Under fingernails also. Let sun hit finger tips, I have never seen a post about this, but if you look closely some PATM reactions are it attacks cuticles also and likes to live under nails, and I could pull fibers and saw spores from there also. Its easy to see, flick your nail under a flashlight and if you see little particles come off, those are the spores that cycle this thing, so sun even there. Pull your fingertips so space between finger and nail opens up a millimeter tiny but gets sun there. Please try this, it could be as simple as that and I think it cures it or kills it. I will post more, after trying group visits to test for reactions. Look at my posts over a decade, desperation. But I think this is it.

[LookingForPATMfix]

curiously my fam DR said I was low on vitamin D

[LookingForPATMfix]

I got lazy and stopped the daily sun exposure and reactions came back. I now went back to sun exposure. I stand behind the sun as a temp solution. But you really need to sit there in high noon sun for a good 15-20 mins let it burn what ever it is that causes that. I read a lot about UV light and do wonder if tanning beds could do it. But I like to feel that burning from the sun and that is reducing and if done constantly eliminating reactions for a few days. It is totally worth it to be able to go out and not have that over our heads.

[patm199326]

Do you think light therapy could be just as effective? I'm considering light therapy, but also being in the sun is definitely a positive thing for your skin in general. I remember when I went to Hawaii my PATM reactions reduced over the course of one month. I wouldn't say they were completely gone, but I'm guessing that sun exposure may have had something to do with it.

[LookingForPATMfix]

Makes sense, to get roasted by the sun and see how that goes.

[LookingForPATMfix]

Fibers are gone and reactions are gone. I never thought I would say this in my lifetime. Daily exposure to Sun has killed off my PATM

[LookingForPATMfix]

I am willing to bet, all of us are hermits, non Sun bathing people or have not been in direct sun as as sunbather does in years. Go out there and let the sun blowtorch your body till you feel the heat. What ever is on our body, make sure sun hits hair roots of head, and privates is key. Shave privates, then let sun hit is good, since all the spores attach to hair and grow there, I assume due to oils there to allow them to grow. I also am willing to bet none of us are baldies or sun bathers. Eyebrows are loved by these things, and you can tell with a flashlight or phone light pointing at you or up and then run hand on eye brow or hair and see all the particles fly off, but as I said, the best is a lint roller and then I could see the fibers on the lint roller easy with naked eye, yet they are 1/10 the width of a hair, much much thinner and there is no confusing them. I once took all this to a derma doctor and hw would have nothing to do with any of that. Took my lap top and handheld, pictures, lint roller and he looked at me like "dude I did my medical school and have a good income here, I don't need to learn more stuff" is what I felt he said, so we are on our own. So forget all except, yes glass of water with 6-8 drops of food grade H2O2 per glass and that helps with reactions but still had them, now after sun and without the water, no reactions. Going to continue. I was already planning trips, something I have not done in 15 yrs due to this. Need to see how this goes with the fibers. When you are baking in the sun its Ok to do sunscreen but don't put it on parts with lots of hair, so face ok, neck or just be covered, but bake all areas with alot of hair, and they love nose hairs, so get sin in there and while I was at it, I opened my mouth to sun also, since from nose I am sure they make it to mouth and possibly are the effect your body has some gas that then causes the reactions. I thought was the body is trying to get rid of the fibers and causes some gas, so remove the pathogen, remove the gas emitted, but fibers are key and they do seem to be reducing. But its a circular never ending infection, so that is why sun exposure for a good period seems needed. Don't burn yourself and no sunscreen on head or hair. Long hair women, well, if you are desperate enough, go military, cut, let the sun kill this thing off, use wigs for a while? but if hair is long sun wont be able to hit roots, that I am sure of, the handheld scope clearly revealed how the baby fibers grow out of the same place hairs are growing. I feel glass 75% full, but no reactions, means I can travel. So jury still out and I have not declared total victory. but partial yes.

[LookingForPATMfix]

Fibers still coming, but reactions are gone.  Over the years, I have had multiple false hope events, and when I saw fibers still showing on lint rollers I assumed reactions would come back, but they have not. I am doing one 15 minute sun bake a day and see where this goes. Public even yesterday, and nothing. with 300 people in a gym, in the past it was coughs every minutes, yesterday nothing. The sun exposure absolutely has a major effect on reactions and as far as the fibers, jury still out. Sun may be killing pathogen that causes the reactions, but still see fibers. Many less, so it could be the cycle, and I will keep sun bake every day for a few days and see were it goes. Guys keep hair just above bald so sun can really hit the roots were the baby fibers that are hollow and have some kind of virus or bacteria inside those hollow fibers, not gone back to scope on fibers I am getting today, but its much less, and reactions are gone for now it seems.

[LookingForPATMfix]

I went to a movie and there was not a single cough or sneeze the whole time. I have been to the movies probably 2 times in 15 yrs since I discovered this and I used to go every weekend, and today I got another confirmation that what I am doing is working. I am out 2 times per day about 30 ,minutes each time when sun is strongest and making sure all areas of hair/head are exposed thoroughly to the sun. I still cant believe this.  The question is, if this is systemic or surface only. With scope I could see hatchlings, tiny spore with the hair or fiber growing out of it in clear mucus, and the question is , is it in my whole lymphatic or immune system or just surface meaning in the hair pores. I think it is systemic, for some and surface for others. Could be that all of us are systemic and the surface only never discover it or does not have the massive fiber production. I will know later next week when I will stop sun and water with H2O2 to see if reactions are gone or not.

[ocvq]

Your proposal seems logical, however it would be better if you find a way to show what you say about certain bacteria or fungi that generate those filaments in the hair or scalp. The thing about being a Hermit or living under little exposure to the sun does not make a bit of sense since not many years ago several from the countryside or farms exposed their problem, the type lived in broad daylight, in fact many Patmers left the city for remote places and sunny, I know a PATMer who goes on vacation to the beach almost forced with her husband and exposes herself to the sun, she tans, however the Patm continues. Those experiences are told in this forum itself. For my part I would say that she had short hair and my parts as well as my armpits were almost waxed for the same reason I thought, the Patm continues. It's not bad to try again, it's only winter here so in a few months summer will come out and I'll try again for now I'll cut my hair again because it bothers me. Finally; I would say that or I would recommend that you try well before launching a supposed cure, I do it for your own good and out of respect, many here almost play irresponsibly by saying that they have a cure and after 1 month they come out saying that it is not the solution, with that class of information we only harm ourselves and more than anything to the new ones who enter the forum.

[LookingForPATMfix]

I have been to many places now with many people and getting no reactions. For me it seems to have stopped the reactions. Fibers on roller seems smaller every time, so something may be stopping the mad cycle. I get what you say, sure, but desperation of mine and others is so bad that I cant wait to report any good news here. Still working for me. Still doing 15 to 30 min per day of sun 1-2 times per day when possible. If we knew what part of the rays or light is doing this we may be able to go to tanning beds, but not sure since I cant know what part of the sunlight is killing off what ever it is its doing. All I can say is that I am still seeing excellent results. Its the first time in years I can say for sure there is some drastic change. Is the person that goes to the sun, is he getting sun to his hair roots? that is where those fibers are born and grow out of and remember privates, also have to hit that. Even the spores from under my fingernails when I would flick them seem to have gone away. I wish I could get confirmation from someone about this.

[LookingForPATMfix]

I am still numb about this and part of me does not believe this is going away, since I have had many false hopes. but this time its different. We are all experts at those reactions in stores or public places,  so we are also experts at a no-reaction outing. Almost impossible. Part of me is still doubting this, so that is why I would love some confirmation here. Part of me is seeing results I had not seen in 11 years since I realized all this. Still seeing fibers on roller, but they look smaller, diff, like cycle dying down, but they are still there. Sun has to hit your head at all angles, with very very short hair like 1/2 inch or less and all angles. I never get particles from under arm hair. Not sure why. Hair and privates, yes.

[Killthecough]

I think this has more to do with your vitamin d levels. The last time my PATM fully stopped for a day I took a megadose of vitamin ADK.